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Truth I'm gay
Debate Score:28
Arguments:17
Total Votes:39
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Nom and I are the only leftists here

Mingiwuwu claims to be a social democrat but constantly attacks socialism and praises capitalism and promotes authoritarianism over democracy. ALofRI claims to be a democratic socialist but is completely confused about what that means and is merely an Americanist with liberal capitalist syndrome. Everyone else is a blatant right wing troll. 

Truth

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I'm gay

Side Score: 17
1 point

You say the nicest things, 666. NO, I consider myself a Democrat with Independent and Socialist-ic tendencies. I think Bernie goes a bit TOO far, but, as I've said before, we need to lean a bit "hard left" to counterbalance the hard right. We can level it out later. I am definitely a leftist, hate everything I see on Trumps right ….. which is a tangent to the old GOP right, and headed for space!

If you think you're a "leftist", you may be, I don't see it. If you are it's similar to Trumps right … a tangent to the OLD left (and headed for space), THAT'S when America WAS great, with the Greatest Generation! Radicalism is ruining BOTH sides, and you are a radical.

Side: Truth
2 points

Radicalism is ruining BOTH sides, and you are a radical.

Alfie, I understand why you want to steer clear of what you view as either extreme -- right or left -- but your reasoning is being distorted by the fact that the centre is not in the centre. Many scholars have noted that the American centre has gradually been pushed to the right over a number of years, so what you view as the "radical left" is not necessarily radical at all.

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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I consider the radical left as those who carry political correctness a bit too far and those judges who are soft on crime, etc. NOTHING like RW radicalism. You are ri uum … correct that the center has moved somewhat right over the last few years and I don't consider the REAL center as far right as some say it is. I think there is a "propaganda center" or perceived center and it is not (hopefully, as far right as some think. Gerrymandering, evangelicals and voter suppression along with Faux News, I think, makes it look a bit farther than the majority of people are. The majority of people are the real center, as far as I am concerned.

Side: Truth
1 point

I consider myself a Democrat with Independent and Socialist-ic tendencies.

That's nice, but have you ever considered that maybe reality doesn't give a fuck what you consider yourself? I am sick of all your opinion talk, you are objectively not "socialistic" because you don't know what the fuck that means.

I think Bernie goes a bit TOO far

You're literally a fucking retard, I can't even hold back anymore. You call yourself a democratic socialist and say Bernie fucking Sanders, who is only a "democratic socialist" by American standards and doesn't fit the actual definition, is going "too far". Bernie Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist, but his policies are that of a social democrat, so you saying he goes too far proves that you are in fact a right winger or at best a centrist.

Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production with an emphasis on self-management and democratic management of economic institutions within a market or some form of decentralized planned socialist economy.

Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy.

Notice how social democracy is CAPITALIST with some socialism splashed in and democratic socialism is fully SOCIALIST? There's a significant difference. You are objectively not a democratic socialist or even a social democrat by definition. You are objectively wrong so shut your stupid fucking mouth.

I am definitely a leftist

You're a very confused ignoramus who is obnoxiously patriotic towards a distinctly right wing capitalist republic that is not democratic and not socialist.

If you think you're a "leftist", you may be, I don't see it.

You don't know what leftist means because all you know is the American way of looking at things.

Radicalism is ruining BOTH sides, and you are a radical.

The founding fathers were considered radicals in their time you insufferable jack ass. Stop sucking America's dick and realize that I am a real left winger and you are an American capitalist liberal who thinks left wing means centrism.

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The founding fathers were considered radicals in their time

That's a very good point.

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1 point

What you meant to say is you are the only person still living with your parents here.

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1 point

What you meant to say is you are the only person still living with your parents here.

Two days ago you were telling everybody that I lived in my mom's basement, so at least try to keep up with your own disinformation, you stupid little boy.

Side: Truth
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

NOM you are a Marxist by your own words but Marxism is Communism so you have said you are a Communist.

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TangoAndCash(16) Disputed
1 point

You have admitted to living with your parents. It's common knowledge. You're a parasite.

Side: I'm gay
0 points

I am a social democrat progressive and that's the fucking truth, you Communist cuck.

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