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"They aren't Muslims they are terrorists"

This is a phrase I have heard in many news reports following terrorist attacks by muslim extremists. Is this saying, or way of thinking, helpful or unhelpful to combating terrorism and its negative effects?

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I have never heard a single person who calls the terrorists Muslims not hate Muslims who aren't terrorists. We need to stop all terrorists, not all Muslims, or just Muslim terrorists.

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Not all Muslims are terrorists. I have plenty of good friends that are Muslims. They believe that some of the terrorist attacks that are happening are just wrong. So you can't just say that all Muslims are terrorists. Like you don't have to be Muslim to walk over to a huge building and blow it up.

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True Muslims are not allowed to kill Muslims, yet Muslims are allowed to Stone Muslims to death if they don't follow the strict Muslim rule. This is no doubt, confusing, but, it seems that anything done "in the name of God" is okay in ANY religion. What we need to do is stop religions and let humanity and human decency make the rules! The guy that went to church and killed, David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc. ALL considered themselves "Christians". They were NOT. Isis considers themselves "Islamic". THEY are not. They consider what they do "in the name of God" to be the right thing to do just like the "Christians" mentioned above. There are terrorists on BOTH sides, Christian AND Muslim and neither consider themselves "terrorists". A lie is a lie, the "word of God" is whatever one wants to believe his/her entity considers it to be.

Now, if that entity would show up and straighten out the mess HE/SHE/IT has "created" (allegedly), then I would believe. Since the confusion seems to generate so much hate, I would have to hear the REAL "word of God" before I could follow it. The "Old Testament" condones too much cruelty, as does the "Koran". They are BOTH "terroristic", and much of the "interpretations" of the New Testament are also. I'd rather dump them all and live by what humanity thinks is right. If these "Muslims", running from terror were "Christians" running from terror, we'd take them even if a few Joneses and Koresh's and Christians who thought they were better than "other creations" were among them. It seems that the "Christians" who live in conservative states (largely), don't have faith that "God" will protect them from un-Christian terrorists. What good is their "faith"?? Jesus, allegedly, says that we should help the poor and helpless. I don't remember reading "unless they are Muslims".

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My views on religious extremism aren't at all exclusive to muslims. The way I see it, all forms are detrimental to society, including (if not especially) terrorism. The idea that killing should be encouraged is one that can only be brought in through ideology, not all muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are muslims, but the beliefs that caused the paris attacks were most undoubtedly caused through islam.

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It helps because it is how to troll the terrorists. They realize that the harder they fight for their religion the less people respect their right to be a part of it.

Side: Helpful
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There are literally hundreds of millions of Muslims who see violence against infidels as acceptable. How is this not then a Muslim belief? With no acknowledgement that we are fighting Muslims, how can we understand that we are fighting some peoples idea of religion?

How are we to understand the struggle between Sunni and Shia, if not through understanding Islam?

Is there nothing else but military force to be considered when fighting ideological fanatics?

IMO ignoring the complexities of the enemy is not a winning strategy.

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Islamic communities across Europe have consistently avoided openly and unequivocally condemning the atrocities carried out by Muslim terrorists. To quote the well worn cliche' of ''all Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims pretty well sums up the present state of crisis. It's a very straight forward mathematical equation, the greater the number of Muslims in a country the greater the potential threat. If terrorists represent 0.5% of a Muslim community then the greater the Muslim population the greater the number of terrorists. Solution, as it was politicians, past and present who brought death and destruction to their citizens it is up to them to correct their criminal negligence. These smooth talking shysters were/are charged with the responsibility of protecting their people, but instead they encouraged the intake of 100s of 1000s of terrorists and potential terrorists. If Germany's chancellor, Angela Merkel isn't lying awake at night asking herself, what the hell have I done, she should be, shame on her and the other European leaders who have exposed their nations to deadly terror for generations to come.

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Nuri(2) Disputed
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There are Jewish Terrorist, Christian Terrorist and atheist Terrorist. SO not all terrorist are Muslims. There were a group of Catholics that bombed an Abortion hospital, but that doesn't mean are Catholics are terrorists. There are Jewish terrorist but that doesn't mean that all Jewish are terrorists.

Supporting Evidence: Not all Muslims are Terrorsit (www.thedailybeast.com)
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Antrim(1287) Disputed
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I haven't heard of any Christian or Jewish terrorists killing, maiming or causing mass destruction in the name of their God. There were terrorists who happened to be non Muslims, but they did not commit their crimes in compliance with the teachings of their holy scriptures, but did so in spite of them. I would feel significantly safer and happier living in a Jewish or Christian community than I would in among a nest of Muslims.

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