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 What is more important: Our privacy or national security? (11)

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What is more important: Our privacy or national security?

How do you feel about the revelation that the government is collecting phone records and internet data from millions of Americans? Why do you think thy are doing this? What kind of information — like Web sites visited or phone numbers called — do you think the government should have access to in order to prevent future terrorist attacks? 
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2 points

"All's fair in love and war." We are in a war with anti-democracy factions. Until we defeat those factions we need to be somewhat flexible with our privacy ... or THEY will defeat U.S.!

I try to do nothing I have to hide, so, I'm an open book. They can look all they want to save the country. They just need a good reason.

MichioKaku(160) Disputed
1 point

"All's fair in love and war."

You are supposed to say that when you screw someone over or deceive your enemies, not when your own government tricks you into giving up all of your privacy. "Welp, looks like I just got screwed over, but All's fair in love and war I suppose."

We are in a war with anti-democracy factions.

We are ruled by anti-democracy factions as well.

Until we defeat those factions we need to be somewhat flexible with our privacy ... or THEY will defeat U.S.!

Can you show me a single example of the efforts against terrorism being helped by the government monitoring every citizen in the U.S? Finding a terrorist in that is like finding a clean needle in a heroin stack. We don't need the government spying on everyone to defeat a few measly little sand-nigger factions.

outlaw60(15501) Disputed
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"We are in a war with anti-democracy factions."

Old Crazy AL what a statement you made !

You Progressives are in opposition to those that oppose you at the voting booth !

"All the while claiming Progressives are about the People and the Right to Vote !"

Are either of the above close to the truth ?

smilinbobs(598) Disputed
1 point

The people who are oppressing us are not foreign they are our government. They are the terrorists. They have defeated us. I just paid them thousands of dollars not because I wanted to but because it was taken from me forcefully. Each year they find ways to take more and more of my freedom and all of my privacy.

AlofRI(2847) Clarified
1 point

A country needs money to improve infrastructure, education, defend us, etc., etc..

You don't want to contribute to that?? I suggest you find a country where you don't have to. Where they give you everything for nothing, or you get nothing BUT what you earn ... good luck.

What they are taking is not your "freedom", it's the "membership fee" to live in this club that GIVES you that freedom! If you want a country with no government ... good luck with that also. Russia takes anything they WANT ... and NO Second Amendment whatsoever. (No First, either, unless you say what they WANT you to say). Tell me. Where would you have it better??

2 points

How do you feel about the revelation that the government is collecting phone records and internet data from millions of Americans?

Like the American people are retarded for allowing this to happen.

Why do you think they are doing this?

Because they can and they found an excuse for it that the sheeple will buy.

What kind of information — like Web sites visited or phone numbers called — do you think the government should have access to in order to prevent future terrorist attacks?

None of it.

2 points

National Security would be more important, but I don't really see why monitoring our phone calls and web sites we visit would help against terrorism. Instead, they should enforce tighter security during events (concerts, festivals, and the like), and reduce the availability of firearms. The ease with which people can buy guns in the U.S is alarming. The government could save so many more people, if they had much tighter restrictions on dangerous weapons. Looking through people's devices or setting up CCTC cameras in houses won't help much.

2 points

I feel that while the threat of Muslim international terrorism exists the government should be given, or simply, assume the right to access all or any of the habits, communications of all U.S., citizens, non U.S., citizens THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

If such unorthodox surveillance techniques save the lives of Americans and our allies then the end justifies the means.

I'm certain that the American and international intelligence agencies are not interested in wee Mrs., Mc Dooky's hairdressing appointment next Tuesday, or Dirty Dick's extra martial affair with the Inn keeper's wench.

Both are equally important. Your compliance in these searches might just stop a terrorist from going alluhu Akbar.

1 point

Shhhh. If I tell you the answer it wouldn't be private anymore, and it would jeopardize national security. .............................

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National security is a scam that the government uses to take away all of your rights and privacy in order to oppress a fearful population. A group divided and scared can be oppressed much easier than a group who communicate together privately.