Okay, here are the problems with Socialism, even in the mild form of what you cited.

1.How is it determined in how much a person is given?

The answer is not much. Also, who determines it? The government? Governments are not well known for making very wise and beneficial decisions.

2.Socialism also means majority rule. The majority controls everything in the communes and councils. This is not good when people have disputes on decisions. This also trounces the minorities rights. If the majority decides to take one's property for the good of the commune, what is to stop them from doing so, or going even further? Nothing. This also leads into:

3.Democracy is bad. I'm talking about democracy in it's purest form, which is pretty much socialism (which is what you are supporting anyway). Like stated before, a Democracy is, first and foremost, majority rule, also known as Mob Rule. This is law created by the majority to fit themselves. Power is given to the people, but only to the majority of citizens. This constricts the power of the minority, who is always under the thumb of the majority. This can lead to problems with oppression, restrictive laws, and suppression; all against the minority. For example: 100 citizens are voting on whether to increase taxes to pay for public services. 51 of the citizens vote for increasing taxes on only certain people, which happen to be the other 49. They put it to a vote and the 49 citizens lose due to a 51 percent majority. Because the country is a Democracy, the 51 percent majority win and trounce the rights of the other 49 percent.

A Democracy is majority rule. This means that the majority can vote on any issue and win. However, it means they vote on everything. This includes voting on local, state, and national laws; national and international policy; and all criminal issues. This takes time and resources that many people, and countries for that matter, do not have. It is impossible to have a true Democracy in a country with millions of people spread across hundreds of miles.

4.Democracies always fail in history. History has proven that any effort to create a true Democracy has always failed, and it has both hurt the majority and the minority. Ancient Greece is the perfect example. Ancient Greece was split up into many different countries and city states. The most powerful of them were Athens and Sparta. Sparta was a militaristic society ruled by a monarchy, which was the most common form of governance at the time. Athens, however, was a Democracy. Athens was the first country to use Democracy to some degree of success, and they pioneered the concept. Since Athens was small compared to most modern day countries, it worked a little better. Even still, Athens was plagued with corruption and people started to abuse the system, and the majority took over. When Athens was weak, neighboring countries took advantage of the situation and attacked, including Sparta. Eventually, Athens fell and was taken over by monarchies.

Another example is Ancient Rome. When they gained power, they invaded Greece and found a wealth of knowledge. Rome also discovered the Greek democratic system. They realized that it was a great form of government, and they modified it to fit them. This time, they created a Republic. The Roman Republic lasted for hundreds of years. Rome created laws that protected the rights of the people, and even its conquered citizens. After hundreds of years, the Republic was closer to becoming a Democracy. The country had expanded to its limits, stretching themselves thin. The people were rich, but the poor

wanted more power, and to reduce the rich. They demanded welfare, and higher taxes on the rich. The government did so, and suffered the consequences. The rich were now poorer and could not invest into their businesses, which created high unemployment and more poverty stricken people. The demand on welfare began to increase. The poor became lazy on welfare and demanded even more. This is the point that Rome became a Democracy, and a large one at that. This is best summed up by Benjamin Franklin, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

The third, and final, example, is a more recent one; the French Revolution. Before the revolution, France was ruled by a monarchy. Influenced by the Enlightenment and the American Revolution, the French people demanded their freedoms and a Republic similar to America’s. The people took over through violence and set up their government. They allowed the monarchy to continue, but under a constitutional­ monarchy, just like Great Britain. However, the country was in turmoil. The Republic tried to keep control, but couldn’t enforce their laws. The people again rose up and created a more socialist­democracy, taking land from the rich for the good of the commune. This is also the time the guillotine was put into the spotlight, famous for beheading any political dissident and the royal family. Many parts of France were in Anarchy, ruled by no­one. The man to take the opportunity was

Napoleon Bonaparte, who united the country under his rule, as Emperor of France. However, he brought Europe into the meat­grinder of war where millions perished.

The reason why Democracy is similar to socialism is that the people/majority take over means of production, property, and the entire country. All through the majority vote.

Capatalism offers the people to make a living their own way, and make profit from their work. They are given what they earn, not what the government hands out to them.

Maybe it works for a factory, but will it work in a country where everybody has their own conflicting interests? And then you'll have the majority class which can through its votes boss around any of the minority groups. If I've got that wrong then please clarify the question and elaborate on the concept you're discussing.

Simply, socialism lead's to tyranny or dictatorships, because it values the group over the individual which eventually means not respecting individual rights.

I'l say capitalism is far from perfect. But always lead's to more freedom, because people have freedom and choice.

If someone is selling jeans' for example, and your at a strip mall full of jean's stores. You have choice, you can choose the store that has the best product, price or brand, or whatever factor's you choose from.

Socialism means, that people will have no incentive to work hard, or create good products or services.

This is what happened to Russia, food became scarcer, good work rare, no one cared, except for the corrupt which owned and ruled everything.

Your expecting there to exist fairness in lives, there is no such thing.

But what there is freedom of opportunity.

We each have pro's and con's in life, and capitalism means that any of us can get past them to work hard, and create a better home for their spouse and families.

Socialism just never has worked, never will work.

It is still bureaucrats who rule our lives, and they decide what happens to our industries. They have relatively immunity to the results of their unwise decisions. Typically, they interfere too much into peoples lives and businesses. The ones we have now are bad enough.

What's the problem with this system, well as follows:

It forces me to pay for the subsistence of societal parasites. I work to care for my family, not a bunch of losers. I don't want to pay for someones kid to go to the doctor. I'll take care of the medical expenses for my family. And public schools, roads, libraries, police and fire departments are not indicative of a Socialist government. I those who are too ignorant to know the difference would stop using them as an example.

And your assertion that the top economies are Socialist Democracies is pure nonsense. The only functional one in Europe of any size is Germany, which has a protectionist trade policy.

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