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Its a solution for introverts Perverted
Debate Score:23
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Is pornography sinful

Can pornography be seen as sinful in the eyes of religion or can it help those that are lonely and who feel that they cannot form relationships.

Its a solution for introverts

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Perverted

Side Score: 15
1 point

Its cheap, nasty and corrupts the minds of less mature people

Supporting Evidence: Good Sex Guide (www.goodsexguide.co.uk)
Side: Its a solution for introverts
2 points

Its cheap

Yeah, but they get you with the subscription.

nasty

Once leather or excrement is introduced, yes.

corrupts the minds of less mature people

Surely interest in sexual activity implies that the person in question is maturing sexually?

Side: Its a solution for introverts
Cicero(239) Disputed
1 point

Why are you tagged as It's a solution for introverts if your reasoning sounds like a perverted argument?

Side: Perverted
1 point

OF course its sinful. its having sexual desires whilst looking at another female. fair enough if your single, you dont have much else to look at...but i believe if you have a partner...you are making them feel like they are less attractive for you, i mean why cant ur partner be enough to get you off...why need porn? if you cant happily just look at your partner then u must have a problem...as in sexual addiction.

and it gives females and males self confidence issues being compared to these people who do it for a job. like many girls can deep throat or have massive implants in their breasts, tiny waists, clean shaven all the time, no imperfections. its unrealistic and setting to high of a standard for women. and think about animal, child or pregnant porn. Thats just sick. it goes to far. if u wanna watch sex then tape urself with ur partner and watch that. no need to look else where!!

Side: Its a solution for introverts
2 points

OF course its sinful. its having sexual desires whilst looking at another female.

This is what happens when the source of your moral code is a book written by seventy year old virgins.

sexual addiction.

I think "sexual addiction" equates to being male.

and it gives females and males self confidence issues being compared to these people who do it for a job.

Good, get them off their arses and into the gym.

like many girls can deep throat or have massive implants in their breasts, tiny waists, clean shaven all the time, no imperfections.

Nothing £20,000 won't clean up.

its unrealistic and setting to high of a standard for women.

You mean the way skinny models make fat people feel unattractive? Well....they are.

and think about animal, child or pregnant porn.

What about animal, child or pregnant sex? Quoting the worst examples of something does not reflect upon the matter as a whole.

if u wanna watch sex then tape urself with ur partner and watch that.

That's barbaric. That's like saying "Why hire a plumber when you can unclog the toilet yourself?".

Side: perverted
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

OF course its sinful

This implies there is a such thing as sin in turn implying there is a god who made rules, in turn implying this god who made rules made them contrary to human biology as some cosmic prank... no wonder catholic girls are such freaks in bed.

its having sexual desires whilst looking at another female

Ah, I see. You must be a female. I hate to break it to you, but all guys think about sex all of the time. In front of the computer or at the bus stop, it really doesn't matter. We can't help it, our brains automatically start thinking of sex every 30 seconds or so.

you are making them feel like they are less attractive for you

not all of them. Believe it or not some girls enjoy porn just as much as guys.

i mean why cant ur partner be enough to get you off...why need porn?

Any male is perfectly capable of being madly in love with one girl and "getting off" on her, and still have a desire to see porn. It is not mutually exclusive for most guys, and quite a few girls as well - as it seems to be a point of assumption that only guys look at porn.

and it gives females and males self confidence issues being compared to these people who do it for a job. like many girls can deep throat or have massive implants in their breasts, tiny waists, clean shaven all the time, no imperfections.

It only gives one confidence issues if they started with low self-esteem. As Kat Williams said, "it's self esteem (expletive), you control that shit your self (expletive)."

Very funny guy. And he's right. There are always going to be better looking people, whether you see them naked on a computer or not. A healthy person would use that as inspiration.

its unrealistic and setting to high of a standard for women

Um... no it isn't. I take care of myself, why shouldn't I expect a woman to do the same?

and think about animal, child or pregnant porn

Oh come on now, I really don't think it is fair comparing animal and child porn to pregnant porn. Pregnant women are just as capable of sex - in fact they are quite a bit hornier generally speaking. And porn is a great way to make some money for that kid's college.

At any rate, illegal stuff like animal and child porn should not even be in this conversation. That's like if I start a debate saying "kids shouldn't drink soda at school because sugar is bad and kids are fat" then end it by saying "what if they beat each other to death with frozen cans of soda."

if u wanna watch sex then tape urself with ur partner and watch that. no need to look else where!!

... why not do both? Both watch yourselves and get some good ideas from others? It seems that could only improve things.

Side: perverted
ryuukyuzo(641) Disputed
1 point

Well, perhaps YOU are kinky enough to get your man off whenever he needs, but in most relationships this is simply not the case. ;)

For a man, if he's horny and his sweetheart isn't around he has the choice of porn or finding another woman. Would you prefer the later to the former?

Sexual addiction? Are you kidding me? Where is this idea coming from that men with high testosterone must have some sort of disease? If sexual addiction means having the desire to look at hot, sexy, naked women; or GOD forbid, the desire to HAVE SEX with hot, sexy, naked women then I say the problem lies within the men whom live free of this "addiction" and NOT the other way around.

Setting too high of standards? Just by EXISTING superfine women set the standard. Unless you plan on carving up the bodies of anyone deemed "porn-star" hot, this is inevitable. Most people still manage to get laid anyway. =/

Sure, taping you and your partner and watching it is fun, but it's also fun to watch other people. What's wrong with that? If there is a desire, that's enough need for me! XD

Side: Porn is A OK
2 points

These tags sort of pigeon-hole you. I pick this side only because some porn does fit the modern literal definition of "perverted".

However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with any type of consensual porn in itself.

It is not the porn itself which corrupts I believe, but any inner struggle one feels, whereby they want to see it, but hate themselves for it. This I think is where the problems lie if there are any problems at all.

There is no proof anywhere that a society that has access to more porn suffers any more or less sexual deviance within that society than one which has little access.

I would argue that in many cases, it is the lack of sexual satisfaction which would lead to things like rape; not the overabundance of it.

There is a point to be made I think as far as what Ciero said, as it is often not our society's definition of "love" seen. And that it could distort one's expectations making it more difficult to find "love".

However, this is a societal construct, not a fact of matter. One can easily simply find a girl or boy who shares their lust as well as their love, and the problem is solved. Prudishness is often the enemy here and not porn.

I have seen some amazing porn, and have had both good and bad sex, and must say that bad sex is better than great porn so the idea that many would choose porn over the real thing is not accurate I think - sure it exists, but everything exists there are billions of people on earth. It is far more likely that porn fills a hole, that it is far more often used when one cannot get laid, not when one chooses not to get laid.

And as for sin, I see no sin in enjoying oneself. If there were a god which I am quite convinced there is not, I still would not believe he or she or it would have any problem with any type of sex at all so long as all parties involved agree to it. If so, would that god really be worth listening to?

Side: perverted
1 point

It's nowhere close to real love, so people who watch it are less likely to be able to love someone and they will become more introverted. Creating a vicious cycle where they become addicted, and lose their life as they know it.

Side: perverted
ryuukyuzo(641) Disputed
2 points

Picturing zombified 14 year old sitting @ his computer, helpless to stop looking @ porn

Phhhhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

jeez, you're making porn sound like severe meth addiction or something. =p

If porn is nowhere close to "real" love (whatever that is) then how can it possibly affect ones ability to love?

That's like saying "scrambled eggs are nowhere close to being as yummy as cheese cake, therefore eating scrambled eggs will make you less likely to be capable of enjoying cheese cake."

If these things are so distant from each other, it doesn't matter how much you enjoy porn. It doesn't matter how much you enjoy scrambled eggs. You will still be 100% capable of enjoying the cheesecake of being in love.

But, you have a misconception about love. Love isn't objective. it isn't contingent on an object such as a persons body, or even their mind. Love is a quality about yourself. Love is the most introverted thing in the world! When you are in love, you love all things, Everything about you becomes a thing of love. It isn't something that comes to you with the arrival of a person and leaves with their departure.

And about the addiction thing...

Every time you ejaculate your testosterone levels drop down to nothing. No testosterone, no sex drive.

So, the amount of porn a man has the drive to look at in a day is directly influenced by how skilled he is at suppressing his desire for sex. In other words, he only has the drive to look at copious amounts of porn so long as he wont allow himself to ejaculate.

Even a person whom spends hours looking at porn can cut there sessions down to a few minutes if they don't suppress themselves and go right for the money (shot). ;)

Side: Porn is A OK
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
1 point

I think it's a bit difficult for people to argue against something of which they are very unfamiliar because often they will have a false or unrealistic understand of the subject. So if a person who has never looked at porn is telling others who have, that watching porn will cause X and Y then it's only to be expected that they find such arguments unconvincing. Essentially arguing from a position of ignorance.

Side: Its a solution for introverts
Cicero(239) Disputed
1 point

No I've watched a lot and it has really made me disturbed. But the side effects only last for like 4 days, so I admit my argument was mistaken. I still think it's perverted though.

Side: perverted
1 point

Yes.....actually it is . When old people watch it , its just creepy . But I guess when younger people watch it , their experimenting . .... ????????

Side: Perverted