So you approve of the government of having total power?
Yes.
Would there be any checks and balances?
Nope.
Would you be okay with an average Joe in the street to see your Internet search history?
If I am not doing anything bad on the computer who cares dude?
Are you okay with the government having drone strikes against American citizens without due process? (Violation of 4th, 5th amendments to the United States Constitution)
Yep.
Nibiru wants you to live life in his name. Life normally. Do not be afriad to do evil acts. For morality is useless with him. Give thanks to him every now and then. Praise his demi-gods. If he really favors you then you will reach a state of transcendence. Which gives you divine powers. He may also request a sacrifice on a large scale to prove your worth. All of his potential subjects will be tested.
In the beginning a very powerful being known as "Zen'no no" created space-time. He then created it inside of another realm, that he also created, and created Galaxies, and many stars and planets. Zen'no no then created two deities to rule over the new universe. One was named Nibiru and one was named Nemesis. Zen'no no gave them all the abilities he had. Nibiru and Nemesis ruled under Zen'no no for 10 billion years. One day Nibiru decided to dethrone its creator. Zen'no no was expecting this attack to come but Nibiru had planned its creators death out. Nibiru waged war with its creator inside of the realm Zen'no no created and thus limiting both of their powers. Nibiru, with its great power gave Zen'no no an immense amount of mass. Eventually Zen'no no collapsed and perished. Nemesis was okay with this. Nibiru, as the new reigning deity, created one new galaxy. He then created the sun and then created Earth. He gave Earth all the correct elements to evolve and adapt into basic life. Nibiru, worn out from all the work rested and nearly 4 billion years passed by. Nibiru came back to Earth to check on its creation only to find out that Nemesis had tainted with its life forms and he saw humanoid creatures roaming about. Nibiru imprisoned Nemesis inside of the Earth and killed just about everybody on Earth at that moment except for two people. Nibiru decided to be merciful and spare the lives of these two people but spoke to them "Since you have survived by wrath you shall lives, however, you will worship me. You will repopulate the Earth in my name. If not I will surely give all humanity pestilence for all the days of their lives. Those that worship me shall achieve an elevated existence with me in my realm. Those that fail to do so shall be obliterated, created, and obliterated again, over and over, for eternity along with Nemesis.
This is the backround for it. Its a little shortened because I am a lazy sack of Bosnian cells.
Well let me keep going.
Nibiru created human beings with divine powers of certain elements to rule over the Earth.
Fu, ruled over the wind.
Aquilian, ruled over the seas
Atmos, ruled over the skies. He controls the weather.
Di (Pronounced like "Die"), ruled over the ground.
Adrienne, ruled over fire.
Lux, ruled over light and life and morality
Necrosis, ruled over death and evil.
Nibiru, ruled over it all for Nibiru is almighty.
The humans could not see these demi-gods unless that specific demi-god wished for them to be seem.
After the humans repopulated and reached a population of about 1 million they began to insult the name of Nibiru and claim that he does not exist. Nibiru then gave them pestilence. They began to feel pain. Bacteria evolved much faster. Diseases spreaded. Nibiru then gave command to the demi gods to do as they wish to people of whom they assume shall not follow him. Those that do follow him shall be spared. Nibiru then created nightmares, mutations that ended badly, miscarriages, and he gave command to the rocks in space to attack earth as they wish. Now in todays society these demi-gods have been hiding in secret preparing for Nibiru's final act of pestilence which will result in the end of all creation. Nemesis however is said to have absorbed power from the core of the earth and will wage war with nemesis by empowering humanity and defeating the demi gods to save humanity. I am in favor of Nibiru though.
Nibiru is almighty. All-ruling. All creation quivers in its presence. Nibiru is malevolent. He is not omnipotent, omniscient, or any of that. He is just overly powered. This is a rough overview of Nibiru. I have a journal of a more in detailed story and "personal accounts" of Nibiru and what not but do you have any questions dude?
I am recovering
Recover faster!!!
Not exaclty asserting any controversial viewpoints he may have.
Like he wont post in any controversial debates? Like the Abortion or Religious debates?
Those are all people who I miss
Dude, tell them to get back on.
how about wholesome
She is wholesomely moral? I think I understand that.
He is a typical calvinist-reformed theology-sola-scriptura-bible worshiper
That is absolutely true dude.
But she's smarter than she seems
Hopefully.
I hope he doesn't end up on the "most missed" list
Same here. He is a nice contributor on this site.
engaging
Nice job.
Ok. I just haven't seen them then
I hear he debated legitimately back in his early days. I never took the time to look.
23 Azra Meaniepants (For calling me a loon)
LOL. I didn;t mean it in a offensive way. More like a joking way.
11, addltd chicken
Chicken?
15, Dacey disinterested
16, Jace sharp
17, ChadonSunday worthy
18, Bohemian missed
19, Zombee missed
20, ChuckHades hope
21, gary77777 activist
22, imrigone cool
I dont know any of these people.
14. ThePyg maverick
A libertarian maverick. At least thats what I think he is.
12, LizzieXLaura Integrity
Integrity? Like morally strict??? LOL
8, lolzors93 worshiper
He is a legit loon.
1, Dana Unstable
Sometimes.
4, Quocamole Bright
He is a smarty. I like the guy.
9, Stryker earnest
He possesses a ton of knowledge.
3, Srom Innocent
What if he is a male prostitute offline?????? Just kidding. He is a cool kid.
2, Hellno Pointless
He is pointy.
7, Cartman rare
I have no idea how to describe rare.
5, Atypican Me
NO NO NO. You have to describe yourself in one word. Dont use "me" lol.
11 Sauh
Hilarious... I love this guy.
Ehh.
12 LizziexLaura
Multiparty-personalities
I don't think so. Besides, those rumors just hurt her when she starts debating. Nobody has proof of anything dude. All conspiracy shit.
13 OddHannah
Jury-still-out
What does that mean? lol
14 HannahPomPom
Fake
Hopefully you are joking.
15 Shoutoutloud
Danishhotgurl
Danish?
16 Centifolia
sexyoldlady
She is an old lady?
17 Cuaroc
boring
I never see the guy.
18 Jungleson
coolestbritonthissite
He is British?
19 PrayerFails
sirbitchesalot
Agreed
20 runderekrun
kindafunny
He posts the most random things.
21 AbbyNestor
fakeaccount
Again, highly doubt. Unless you have concrete evidence. I would just leave it because those rumors have some power to them and people wont debate with her anymore.
22 RandomDude
stupidfucker
Well.....alrighty then. LOL.
23 GuitaristDog
Libertarian- yeah, okay
He isn't a libertarian?
24 Azra
fake account ;)
Totally. I just don't exist lol.
25 AveSatanas
satanic?
Is he? I have no clue.
26 KingOfPopForever
my bro
All I know is that he is black.
27 iamdavidh
Whack-job
LOL.
28 Elvira
British? Agreed.
Oh so she is. Alright.
29 Thewayitis
Homeless? Agreed again.
HAHAHA!!!
30 addltd
Owner (of this dump)
Awesome!!
He is pretty cool. I don't see him debate at all though.
1 Dana
Cool.
2 Hellno
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
3 Srom
ChristianBerryPicker
4 Quocamole
Bro
5 Atypican
Loon
6 Joe
Comedic
7 Cartman
Plump
8 lolzors93
Uncomfortable
9 Stryker
Striking
10 HoldTheFuckingMayo
Nonsense
11+... anyone else you want to
Alrighty
11 Sauh
Weird
12 LizziexLaura
Nice
13 OddHannah
HyperDelusionalChristianPsychopath......
14 HannahPomPom
Loved
15 Shoutoutloud
Remarkable
16 Centifolia
Alright
17 Cuaroc
?
18 Jungleson
Serious
19 PrayerFails
EconomicNerd
20 runderekrun
WTF
21 AbbyNestor
Vulgarish
22 RandomDude
Angry
23 GuitaristDog
Libertarian
24 Azra
Sexy
25 AveSatanas
Smart
26 KingOfPopForever
Fun
27 iamdavidh
?
28 Elvira
British?
29 Thewayitis
Homeless?
30 addltd
Awesome!!
Either Prodigee or Abby. For one Abby uses a cuss word in maybe every sentence in her debates. She uses the word "fuck" so much it doesn't sound like a real word anymore.
Prodigee? OMG that guy was crazy. He was a little over the edge. The biggest troll I have ever seen in my life. He was also the most perverted person to ever exist and probably is schizophrenic, delusional, and just plain old stupid.
No the Bible doesn't have Natsu, Lucy, Happy, Ezra, and Gray in there and all of the Fairy Tail people in there.
Whoa dude!!!! Ezra has an entire book in the bible. The Book of Ezra? Have you never read it or something?
Jesus didn't die on the cross for those people but for mankind which is us.
Who ever Ezra was he died for that person.
Number 9. We just build one robot with a full conscious and it realizes that it can make more of itself and make itself stronger. All of a sudden it realizes that the human race is a destructive force against itself and it will slay all of us and reign as the supreme race. Earth will be the new Cybertron.
Sorry that's just scientifically dishonest. I had to jump in.
She is born with her egg. How is it not hers? The embryo is both the father and the mothers. However the egg is the mothers. You must not understand much about the female body. You are born with the set amount of eggs you will have in your lifetime dude. You gotta get educated.
The definition of murder is the deliberate killing of a human being.
Murder: is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human. - wikipedia
Murder: The unlawful killing of a one human by another especially with premeditated malice. - thefreedictionary.com
Murder: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought. - Merriam-webster.com
Murder: killing another human being with malice aforethought. - law.cornell.edu
Like a said before. No malice, no murder.
I haven't seen anyone accidentally have an abortion. They chose to have a abortion, therefore they committed murder.
If it was a malicious abortion sure but that sounds stupid. Killing sure that is acceptable.
So, please tell me, other then an emergency issue, why is there a need for abortion?
The mother is not financially stable.
The mother is not ready.
Raped.
The mother wants to because she can afford it and can do so because its her egg so you can't really tell her what to do with it.
Its dates often contradict as well as the numbers of troops and usually has some supernatural thing tacked onto it. It isnt a trustworthy source for that kind of information especially compared to historians writings
Two different authors. Two different perspectives. Many translations. Typical Atheist.
Yeah not really! The old testament doesnt really have anything describing the daily life of the average Jew and the new testament just follows jesus around. Again, historians reports are far better.
I clearly said it touches on that. These authors wrote things to the public and to churches which pretty much gave a description of their lives. So again, think for at least 5 seconds.
Ill grant you this one, however i again need to mention that it isnt specific to the bible. The historians writings have culture in it too.
You act like I am saying the bible is better. Or that history books don't have the information.
It doesnt really say more than "Cain brought a sheep for slaughter" so i guess it does say they raised sheep. but the historians actually have accounts of what crops are grown where and what livestock are raised, their farming techniques, and so on.
The bible does mention plants and stuff so.....idk.
no like relations with other countries and nations. The bible doesnt really talk about government and politics at all and it often gets relations with other nations wrong. There were never any masses of jews in egypt for example. So another point for historians whos main bulk of the writing is about politics and government works.
What if historians were wrong? What if the bible is wrong? Idk. I don't care.
No, its inaccuracy makes it lose all accuracy. When it stacks up to the facts it usually fails.
Dude, its an account of the perspectives of different people. So its accurate.
Correction. Someone was writing down what they thought people said about people who may or may not have existed and what they may or may not have thought they saw or heard. And anyways THEIR perspective isnt really important when you gather that they believed in a space wizard who birthed a son that did magic tricks. They sort of lose credibility.
Space wizard? What the hell? Typical Atheist. A wizard is not a god. God is supposed to be outside of space and time. He is not a space wizard. Why do you guys always just go for the insults? And perspective is important if you want to know what people think.
Not compared to the accurate writings of historians as well as government records from nations. The spiritual ramblings of ancient jews in a holy book isnt a credible source even if it does get a couple things right.
Yes it is. Its a personal account from the jews. Its still a personal source of info from a perspective.
We dont want snip bits. Snip bits of fact among non-facts are not credible when compared to almost completely factual accounts
Example:
Bible: Courtney fell.
History book: Courtney was running from wolves. She tripped over a large stick and fell and got devoured.
Still sounds fine to me. Sounds like they just left out some information. I really don't care. Courtney still fell.
If we can A) prove that person actually wrote the book. and B) That what they saw or heard wasnt only what they THOUGHT they saw or heard.
So then scientists can study it and figure out what made them think that. Still works as a source of study too.
Yes but in different ways. Im talking about where it is best to go to get facts about a whole range of topics from a trustworthy source. That would be from historians. If you want some fact and culture mixed with deluded perspectives about unfactual happenings then the bible is your source.
So again blah blah blah bible is mush. I have heard enough of that.
I hope you dont mean that its my CHOICE whether it persuades me
If it gets you it got you. Thats it dude.
A firmament that separated the waters from the waters. As if there was almost like an ocean above and an ocean below. THIS NEVER EXISTED.
The firmament is the sky............the sky would split heaven and the waters.......I mean it only takes a few seconds to think of that.....
One being that theres no proof a god poofed anything into existence and another that the intense greenhouse effect it caused would burn up all life on the planet.
What does the greenhouse affect have to do with anything i said? There has to be a slight greenhouse effect for life to start. Just not as much a Venus. So what does that have to do with anything I said? Also there is no conclusive evidence against and being like God.
As for the incest thing it would never stabalize... 2 people literally cannot spawn 7 billion people over ANY length of time. It just doesnt work.
Adam and Eve for example may have 7 children. 3 girls 4 boys. Thats three mates. They mate and have three more children each making 9 children. Repeat until you get to 7 billion.
As for the flood. It never happened. Where did the water come from? No explaination.
How do you know? Were you there? No. Where did it come from? God maybe? If he exists he can make some more water. That isn't a hard task.
How did the saltwater or freshwater animals survive in brackish water?
There is no need for them to. God said take two of every kind of animal so grab two fish. Why grab all the species if their habitat will change? That is illogical. So grab two fish or primarily any kind (probably closets to him). Two whale would be simple. They dont have to be on the boat. Two ocean fish would be simple. They wouldn't have to either. Hopefully you aren't assuming God meant grab two of every species of animal. That would be crazy.
Where did the water go? No boat of the size in the book can hold that many animals, their food, feces, ect.
Um yes it could. Like I said grab two of a kind of animal not two of every species. Leave the whales in the water. Throw the feces of the boat like a normal person would do. Food would be easy because there would still be space.
Men dont live past 120 max EVER so noah was not 500 freaking years old.
Dude, stay with the context of the story. I don't care if he was just 20 and died. He lived for a long time. If God exists its all possible.
And ultimately the sediment layers studied by geologists disproves it entirely not to mention that we have writings from other places in the world at the same time as the flood and they never mention it or died.
I swear other cultures talk about a great flood. Sediment samples? You are dealing with God. Leaving a trace would be against his beliefs.
Exactly. so how can anyone propogate that they know for a fact that it happened?
It goes both ways. You can't prove of disprove it.
Im the creation of my mother and father and i know how it happened and that they both exist. The process was natural. Why should the creation of the universe be any different? Being a creation doesnt mean we CANT know.
You mother and father a probably alive. Were you there to witness the creation of earth? How about your parents? Grandparents? Great grandparents? Ancestors? Nobody saw it. You can never know if it happened or not.
Dirt came AFTER bacteria. What is dirt? Decayed plant and animal matter.
I was thinking more along the terms of just earth and maybe some water and with the right chemicals you can form something. Scientists have formed amino acids in a lab without dirt so I would assume it is completely possible.
We cant have plants and animals living and dying so much that it created dirt before we even had bacteria. And bacteria werent even the first creatures. The first protein strain had to exist.
An amino acid or something. Sure whatever you wanna say. I am sure it touched some dirt and by that I mean earth and water.
We dont know how it happened exactly but from that point we have a really solid recreation of how life evolved from step one. Nowhere does it include or ever need a god or any supernatural force. Im not trying to be mean when i say this but you have no idea how evolution nor abiogenesis works...
That's true. I don't waste my time on it because I don't like science. If they can't have an exact answer I don't want to hear it. Tell me when they make a legit discovery.
Neither was I but i dont need to be. With science we can discover many things. And with logical thinking we can dismiss certain ideas. Combine the two and we have no need for a god. Hes out of the picture.
No you just have people thinking logically while God is somewhere far away or something. Whatever religion deems him as. It doesn't delete him. It just ignores him.
I dont need to think about it. Its entirely rediculous and ive also heard it tons of times before. Could a god exist? Sure its possible. But everything we know about the world. Every theory and law and finding all of it has natural causes and processes that explain it. Never once have we ever needed supernatural forces to explain something. So why should the beginning of the universe and planet Earth be any different?
Because it is Earth and the Universe. Its so controversial. If you didn't know what a firmament was I highly doubt you actually think these things through.
Occams razor. That says that it is more logical to begin with using the simplest explaination before moving on to more complicated ones.
Simple Explaination: God
Complicated Explaination: Science
So what are you exactly saying? Its more logical to believe in God or something?
And it is more logical and simple to explain the evolution of our planet and the universe according to natural processes that align with EVERYTHING else we know instead of assuming some supernatural force that goes AGAINST everything we know poofed it into being. Not to mention we have evidence for our explaination and theres zero evidence for a god doing it.
A god could have just spawned the universe and walked away. Then you are just examining what the God did. It doesn't go against anything at all. It just examines the creation of that god.
If you wanna call it that. I perfer the term INFORMED atheist.
Informed? You didn't know the definiton for firmament so your credibility in my eyes has dropped.
I read and study scientific findings. I research things and read the works of prominent scientists and atheists and even creation scientists. I watch debates between theists and atheists to see whos side is stronger and i listen to people on here and debate with them. And every single time the atheistic side has come out on top.
That's because most Christian debaters suck ass. I am sure an Atheist has been defeated above. There are still things science may never answer.
Every single time the creationist claim is destroyed by the REAL science.
Thats cool I guess? I mean I really don't care that much. I don't watch arguments. I do other things.
I wont ever say "I know for a fact there is no god' that would be a lie. I dont know. but you dont know either.
True.
And no priest or pastor or pope does either. And no scientists for that matter. But i will say theres probably no god. I dont think there is one. THat is my opinion formed after years of study and the study i continue to do. Theres a whole world of information out there for you to assess. I suggest you take a look at it and decide for yourself instead of having other people decide for you. Im not making accusations, just observations.
What religion do you think I belong to?
Murder has a malicious intent. Killing does not have to. You can kill somebody on accident. You didn't murder them.
For example:
Let's say you are hiking with your buddy and his rope snaps because you yanked on it in hopes of checking its durability. He falls and dies. That isn't murder but you did kill him.
Now lets say a wife has figured out that her husband is sleeping with another woman and she is pissed off and she decides to stab the fuck out of him until he is dead and she wants him dead. That is murder.
Malicious: The desire to cause harm to someone
By that definition an abortion is not murder dude. I have not seen a mother just say "I fucking hate this baby I wanna kill it". Never have I heard that. Its usually a very emotional thing. A sad thing more than a malicious thing.
Dude. You are missing what I am saying.
But then again historians wrote the same things so the bible isnt a secret exclusive inside look at their beliefs
I would argue that it is I mean the entire thing says it all. It is stuffed with guys who believed in God. I would say it is a major inside look are the belief system of that specific era.
And we were talking about how people lived at the time, not only what they believed but their culture, daily lives, agriculture, relations, conflicts, ect.
Conflicts? The bible talks about that. Daily lives? It does touch on that. Culture? Majorly touched on that. Agriculture? I have no clue. Relations? Like relationships? I think it speaks of that and addresses some problems.
Historians jobs were to write down factual unbiased report-like accounts of their times which are far more trustworthy than a religious book that doesnt seek to be accurate or give a report of daily life but to propogate its belief set.
So basically blah blah blah the bible is religious so it loses all accuracy. I don't believe it. They are writing down what they went through from there perspective. Thats it. Its what they go through. So if that person was religious then they went through some religious trials. Its still a trustworthy source to study the mindset and cultural differences between nations back in the day. After all it is supposed to snip bits of history and place it into itself. It doesn't have to be an exact day to day basis. It can just tell you what that person has experienced. A history book informs and so does a bible. If you are persuaded by it then thats on you.
A firmament never existed at any time. Light cannot come before the sun. A God didnt poof the world into existence. 2 people didnt give birth to the entire lineage of the human race. The world was never flooded. THeres no evidence for a god poofing anything into existence ever. A pile of dirt cannot form into a man nor the ingredients in dirt. Likewise woman cannot come from 1 rib bone. Evolution does not in any way corrolate with genesis nor does the big bang. You made that up and are wrong.
I am hoping you understand what firmament actually means. One did exists then. God made heaven first before the sun. Logically there would be light so they can see. Therefore God made light in the heavens before he made them to shine for earth. Adam and Eve probably didn't but science has that weird thing in it too because according to science mating which you sister may produce offspring with a few disabilities.There would have to be a lot of incest in order to stabilize a population. I don't know if the world was flooded or not. I haven't seen any evidence for or against yet so I have no clue. You can't have evidence for a deity "poofing" things into existence. How would you? You are the creation of the deity so how would you even know? A pile of dirt may have started out as a bacteria and evolved from there and from that made Adam and Eve I don't know how it happened. I wasn't there. He didn't make it up really you just failed to think for a few seconds. You must be a hardcore Atheist.
It does give historians a sense of ancient writing styles and give them a sense of the mindsets of different people from back then. I don't see how one writing is more "accurate" than another if its just writings. It just shows us how people thought. It gives us a sense of what people believed back then.
Maybe the new ruler one day
One day is not today. They won't have absolute power so its really not that huge.
Will be looked upon with lots of respect by their subjects
Thats fine. However I want to watch CNN without all the baby talk.
May have a heavy impact on their people's future
That is in the future. I want the now.
Then you are not debating. You are just bickering like an immature child.
Really? Everybody else can just post nothing and it's fine but when I post something along the same nature it's wrong? BULLSHIT.
And Stryker presented his argument with statements and then backed those statements up, but you are failing to back your statements up.
Oh okay let's see if you are telling the truth then okay?
Stryker: "If I am lying, what group of belief is the Alignist world view based upon"
This is a question not a statement or an argument nor is it back up with anything. BULLSHIT.
Stryker: "It's okay, you still have finger-painting"
What the fuck? What is that word again........oh yes.....BULLSHIT.
It's not "bullshit" it's debating.
Barely anybody on this site debates and we have more of a discussion than a legitimate debate. It is not regulated and it has not been formalized so it's BULLSHIT especially since this debate calls for nothing.
This IS "createdebate" after all. Not some chat forum for kids who only want to bicker.
This is actually a social site dude. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
So again I am calling BULLSHIT.
Debate with reasoning...don't bicker with emotion :/
Why the fuck am I the only person that has to comply with you? Why don't you go tell this to everybody? Oh that's right.....just about everybody just acts as if we are in a discussion. Calm your damn tits dude.
Lolzors by far. Its like this.
I know more big words than you and I shall quote two things from the bible with no explanation because you should be able to understand them. Also I would like you to know that since I know big words and can use them better than you can I am also 100% correct, logical, and I never make up anything I say. I am correct therefore I am correct.
Bullshit dude! That's why I don't debate with the guy.
The reason this structure works is because the Swiss army does not take part in armed conflicts in other countries, no "if"s "and"s or "but"s.
I dont think them not entering wars is because of their militia but because the officials that run the country dont want any trouble.
Because Abby, Lizzie, Hannah, Azra, and crew are all the same person...
Dude. Not cool. Not cool at all. We aren't Lizzie and Abby. That's a whole separate situation. Another thing is that I am not Hannah and Hannah is not me. Also what would I gain from making like 20 accounts? Points? Reputation? Nope. It's not worth it. You are just being weird and idiotic. I don't know why we have to be accused of being fake because we decided to use our real picture. I seriously don't know what your problem is.
I think it depends on what definition of Abyss you use.
The definition in my dictionary, that I picked up in my home country, says it is a immeasurable deep gulf or great space. So I would assume that Hell fits that description. Like the abyss of hell.
Oh shit dude I gotcha now. So basically she is arguing from an above the ground perspective. Satan doesnt disappear. To the people in Hell he would. I gotcha dude.
The verse I provided says that he is sent to the abyss, this is different than Hell
Are you sure?
You just argued what she said.
You broke up every one of her sentences. She already spoke of the millennial reign yet you pushed that afar. You first part of the argument should support her 6th sentence. The long verses you supplied at the bottom just speak of him being sent to hell forever. So really she would be absolutely right dude. It says "If all that jazz is real" which I am taking as the actual account of whats to happen in the bible. He doesn't literally disappear is what I think she was saying. He is just sent to hell. Comes out and is sent again. You just proved her correct.
