My analysis: this is def about rape. Anyone who knows anything knows that. The part where the man seizes the woman is about rape, even though that Baptist pastor's wife lies and says that it is not. I was so mad when I found this. This is complete victim blaming sexist anti woman proslavery crap, and it should not be in the Bible. I would not obey this under any situation. I mean how romantic is it (satire) to be raped and then forced to marry the rapist being his or her hostage for the rest of your life and watching the kids get raped too? Not at all, I say. This is slavery. There is no way around that, and I want God to do some explaining.
He had to pay 50 shackles the bible doesn't just allow the rape.
This is ridiculous, Obama can't get anything done. How is he supposed to pull off all that with less than a full term in office after spending over a full term not getting anywhere close to that?
When the rapture happens people will panic and they will turn to the government and who is the leader of the United States...... That's right Barack Obama all the world's religion will unite to serve Obama expect one..... True Christianity
Just because he says he is just doesn't mean he is. Homosexual relations are not worthy of punishment. If two people who consent on doing them do them then they are not harming anybody. You have no right to try and stop them from doing that because it does not affect you or anyone other than themselves.
God knows what is best
I know but regardless it is still taking belonging of another human being against their will
and still immoral.
So you hate community service for crimes? or to pay off debts (a job)
Well then there is clearly something wrong with you. Children (or even anyone) never deserve to be killed apart from if they have done something seriously bad like killing some one themselves. Especially not in such an inhumane way.
That was for extreme cases not just a single slip of the mouth
If you have same sex relations you should be killed for it
Why is that bad as God is a just God and punishes sin
If you don't believe in it you get sent to Hell for an eternity
Doesn't evil deserve to be punished?
Slavery is OK
Slavery back then was different then the 1800s plantation slavery
Disobedient children should be stoned to death.
I'm a teenager and I have no problem with that verse
I'm not making fun of you. I'm being just as serious as you are. I'm concerned for your soul. If Obama turns you gay you'll end up going to hell. I'm just trying to help you out.
I know it's a joke and two mind control is impossible we have free choice.
Try to Troll me it's not working
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Our you seriously going to argue or just make fun of people who disagree with you
1. I am not a troll
2. There is plenty evidence of Creation
Did you know that evolution can only occur in small stages and not in macro as information must be added.
Did you know that Jesus fulfilled all of the prophecies in the old testament?
The anti-Christ Obama will lead to a One World Government and a One World Currency, and a One World Religion worshiping Obama with the false prophet leading it and people building Golden statues of Obama and worshiping him at his feet. There will be 2 religions Obama-ism and Christianity soon there will be no fence sitters all Atheists,Buddhist,Hindus,Catholics,Adul
How are people taking this seriously? Why is he on the news talking about fairy tales and magical prophecies? Switch to Disney channel at least their bullshit has a lighter edge.
What does the bible have to do about fairy tales?
Notice when he starts talking(spewing shit), he doesn't admit that he knows for certain that some shit will happen, he just says we believe that it is right around that time. He's full of shit, and it hurts to see people fall for it.
Why don't we stop praying for those people and actually do something for them?
The bible says no one knows the day and the hour but it does seem like the end is near
He couldn't say when or what was going to happen.
Again because the bible says no one knows
An hour of shit I'm sure. I'm not watching all of that because what the other videos told me is that these powerful Christians, use cold read prophecies and people's fear of things they don't understand to pull people into their congregation and milk them for every cent making them loyal followers with no mind of their own.
I have no issue with religion, as hard as it may be to believe that based off of what I said, but I do have a problem with it taking advantage of people.
They need to stop with the hysteria.
It's the Book of Revelation KJV
I believe that there are some (mental) institutions that could help you.
Trolling? This is being debated about on the USA's most watched news station Fox News a respectable site so this isn't just the views of a few crazy people....
I care about you....
I've been waiting for a while now. I assume everybody has. The events in Revelation have yet to happen, so until that happens its like a no show.
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
-2 Peter 3:4-6
Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.
-Revelation 13:16-18
I suggest all non-Christians get saved while they can..... The end times are coming soon and a One World Government is coming serving the Antichrist possibly with Obama as the Anti-Christ and the whore of Babylon leader Pope Francis who will form a one world currency and a one world religion. The atheists will worship at the Antichrists' feet as he performs miracles in their sight. Become saved now!
All their suicide bombers and child molesting priests, witchhunting, burning people for saying that Earth isn't flat...etc :D :D
Which Christianity condemns and actually that is called the flat earth myth most people in the middle ages believed the earth was Round
Okay, but how does that effect him?
I understand that you believe he opposes it, but how does it effect him?
Also, how is homosexuality evil? And don't quote me bible versus, just tell me, how is it evil?
What God supports is good and what he opposes is bad
I know that. But you are saying it should be illegal because of that.
Yes it should like adultery,pornography,abortion, and a lot of other evils that our nation has tolerated for so long. Christians don't hate gays we just think they shouldn't be married.
This is just militant atheist bitching. What does it matter that their is or their isn't a religious symbol? "They got a statue, I want a statue!" That's what he sounds like.
I assume next he wants an official atheist symbol to be recognized uniting all his fellow militant atheists to fight for their right to bitch about being offended.
Hit it right on that head!
The problem is not everyone agrees on what is evil. Many Christians think it's evil to practice homosexuality. Many gay rights activists think it's evil to discriminate against gays. Many Muslims think it's evil for women to not wear a burka. Obviously we can't punish people for everything that some group thinks is evil. Not all issues have a simple black and white solution. Opposing gay marriage isn't a crime. Even if it were, the purpose of punishment is to discourage the bad behavior and rehabilitate the offender. Don't you think someone would be more receptive to an opposing view if its presented in a friendly manner instead of via anger and hatred. People respond to aggression by putting up walls and tuning the other person out.
Hate has it's place, but when determining whether or not to hate someone you need to look at the intentions behind their actions. For example, many of the people who oppose gay marriage have good intentions. They think they are protecting society from something that is harmful. So even though I disagree with their conclusions I don't hate them because they have good, albeit ill informed, intentions.
On the other hand, if someones intentions are just to be a dick, like you, who go on down-voting sprees just to be a troll, then hate is justified. However, despite it being justified, feeling hatred towards you doesn't do me any good. Hating you would just make me feel upset, so why would I do that to myself? Instead of hating you I feel bad for you, because you must have a really sad life if the only thing you can do to make yourself feel good is to try to tear others down. I feel sympathy for you because you're most likely depressed and miserable and don't have many friends because you haven't learned how to be nice. I hope you realize before it's too late that if you don't make some changes in your life, everyone will eventually abandon you and you will die alone and miserable. I hope it doesn't come to that.
If you want to continue to try and troll me, go for it. It doesn't bother me. It doesn't anger me. It just makes me feel pity for you.
For my first point I am not trolling
For my second point is that God is the ultimate judge not humans
So you are saying we should pass laws based on the christian doctrine and not for secular reasons. In a country that has is supposed to allow freedom of religion I find this problematic.
You first need to strong arm all the people to your way, or convince them your way is better. Probably easier to strong arm them instead of convince them especially with your tactics. I mean I doubt anyone could convince you another religion is the true one, you have the same issue the other way.
If strong arming others seems too harsh (which it many would say it is) then you need to find secular reasons to make gay marriage illegal. But we both know no professional peer reviewed organizations back your position. Only groups with religious aims support you and their claims seem to fall apart under scrutiny.
Oh, and if you are going to mix old testament and new testament it makes your position look weaker as you do not use other old testament teachings. It is like padding your citations.
My point is homosexuality is condemned from Genesis to Revelation
So what if God does believe it's wicked? That still doesn't tell me how it effects God. If god has a problem with it then that's God's personal problem That doesn't mean his followers have a right to tell other people that their love is wrong, or that they're going to hell.
The Christian god does? Well by golly then, I guess I need to convert right now.
It's a sin
How does anyone believing that it's Wicked effect God?
God believes it's wicked
... I understand that your god is the Christian God, but I was referring to the fact that there's no proof of your god or any god really. I wouldn't be able to pick one if someone forced me to with all the dang choices. I mean, have you ever researched religions? There's a ridonkulous amount.
The Christian God has evidence
Let's all listen to one religious book and base our laws off of that, regardless of any other beliefs that may exist, especially when regarding something that has little to no effect on anyone but those directly involved. That makes sense.
Lets all listen to one scientific theory and base our laws to teach that the earth is round. That doesn't make sense
No. I think it was just a man who found a woman attractive and was struggling with his personal morals on wanting to act on the attraction. Something that is completely normal, something that everyone struggles with.
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
- Matthew 5:28
It doesn't matter if God actually made such a request or not. The fact is, you've admitted twice you'd heed it if such a issue was placed, which, is awful. I could care less if you change religion, Srom; just stop acting like Christianity is infallible, because it's not.
Why would you disobey God?
I don't hate god, I hate everybody who believes in god. Why? I don't know... I think I have such a deep hatred towards theists because in my past I've been wronged by people who were theists. Perhaps in the back of my head I have the conclusion that if those people weren't theists, they wouldn't have wronged me. I just... I just really don't know.
You hate them?
Now my thoughts that are more relevant is that if it's true that he's gay, then way to go Disney. Raise that awareness. We do need to teach our youth that their is nothing wrong with homosexuality, before their parent's instill in them the hate they've harbored for maybe ten generations.
How is nothing wrong?
Even though the way many Christians treat gays is very upsetting, fighting hate with hate only breeds more hate. You'll never win someone over with hatred. If we want to convince Christians to stop persecuting gays we need to teach them compassion. We need to help them understand what it's like to be in the shoes of a gay person. We need to show them that the life of a gay person is nearly identical to that of a straight person. The only real difference is that their genitalia just happen to be the same shape. The fight against gay marriage is like telling a couple they can't get married because they both have the same hair color.
Three of the greatest joys in life are falling in love, getting married, and raising a family. To deny someone those things simply because they have matching genitalia is cruel and shows a lack of compassion. So, if we want to teach Christians compassion we need to show them compassion. None of us are perfect. We all do stupid things. So don't meet their hate with hate. Try to show them the error in their ways, but do it with love, not hate.
“Hate hurts the hater more than the hated.” - Madeleine L'Engle
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
“If you want to forget something or someone, never hate it, or never hate him/her. Everything and everyone that you hate is engraved upon your heart; if you want to let go of something, if you want to forget, you cannot hate.” - C. JoyBell C.
How so? Dosen't evil deserve to be punished?
I could perform gay or straight acts if I wanted to, that is a choice. It's whether I enjoy them or not that I don't have a choice in. And gay acts appeal to me, straight ones don't. It's like choosing to enjoy pain or not- you don't get that choice.
My point is performing gay acts is a choice
Of course they were. So was the government. Obama is really gay and so is the entire senate and house of representatives. In fact, they're manufacturing a mind control machine that's going to turn the whole world gay. You really need to get one of these hats to protect you from it before it's too late. I can sell you one for $199.99. The cat version is only $149.99. If you order now I'll throw in a free butt plug. Just insert it into your butt and the gays won't be able to sodomize you.
Btw I can't message you?
An overwhelming number of people disagree with you. That isn't part of this debate, check out this debate
Actually that is not true most people on the debate you gave me said it was a choice and Americans are divided about 51 percent against it being a choice with 49 percent being it for. The majority wins and even if it didn't God is the ultimate judge
You have yet to convince me of that. Your own source is not certain when the Book of Job was written. If we cannot establish that it was written before sixth century, we cannot rule out that it may have been influenced by Hellenistic philosophy. And that is all operating under the assumption that Job was describing a spherical Earth and not a disc-shaped one, which you have yet to challenge. You have also not responded to any of my prior questions and assertions regarding the viability of 7 day creation or the flood.
So at this point, all you have established to me is that you believe it is the Word of God, but not any reason why somebody who doesn't already believe that should.
http://www.answersingenesis.
Also, although scholars debate the ages of all of the books of the Bible, a number of scholars have dated Job between 7th-4th century bc, with 6th century bc being the most common (these estimates generally being based on linguistic analysis).
Actually here is a list of when the bible was made
