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Oh come on you have to admit it's at least entertaining. Also educational for so many people that don't know these polices as much as say you and me.

Though I do have a feeling that there will be more of a focus on ideals in this election.

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I can't wait for the debates. Romney is one of the best debaters I've seen. Obama not so much. And I'm not just saying that because I like Romney better. Obama is a good speaker but let's not confuse that with a good debater.

To be fare though Romney already has the upper hand because he's got 4 years of a presidency to pick at. That's something Barrak doesn't have.

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This is actually true for a lot of America. Probably not for those of us mature enough to be on a debate site I hope. But think about it, how many people are there on both sides that just don't know what they're talking about..

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I wrote a research paper in one of my Psychology classes about change in political opinion and the way people view their own changes on certain stances. The result was basically that people don't like to just up and change their political opinions. They like to act as if they've always had their opinions.. Not to toot my own horn but that's what makes me unique.

I think psychology sort of helped me to become more open minded thus allowing me to change opinion.

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Now this is something that I would have completely disagreed with when I joined this site that I now agree with completely. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 even when I was a kid I remembered being confused about "why Iraq" but then I quickly formed my opinion when I heard people talking crap about Bush cause that was a no no.. So me being for Iraq was really just a defense mechanism because I hated liberals. ..well I still do. (:

Although there is some pretty sketchy stuff about that day..like building 7.. heaven forbid I mention the C word. ..no not that one get your mind out of the gutter! (;

Edit: one thing I forgot to mention- you said something about a declaration of war.. -never happened.

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Ok so I read the post and it actually was pretty bipartisan. disregard.. But I still stand by everything else I said. =D

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"Sure, generally... if libertarian isn't a partisan position."

K so you might have a point there but it's not so much bipartisan as it is open minded. We all know that both parties are not perfect. I'm not saying you said that democrats are perfect but I'm also not at all saying that you were bipartisan like you said you were.

"For this particular comment though, description without context in order to enhance the negatives one holds of one party, even should that person at the same time be pointing out the negatives of the other party, is not bipartisan, it is partisan, only partisan from the "lesser evil" perspective."

What's wrong with that?

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Well it wasn't me that did it but perhaps it was due to lack of sources or uncontrolled partisan bias. It just sounds like a kid sort of thing to act like one party is golden and the other one sucks. You sound like a kid talking about how superman could kill batman.

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Democrats are much more easily defined and predictable than republicans these days. It's big gov. pro abortion you can't do it, let us do it discouragement campaigning hoopla.

But there are all sorts of republicans out there.

Republicans like to act really conservative when running for office and then not act conservative while in office. This makes things confusing because some actually are conservative and get ignored by the media. (Ron Paul)

I've never really felt comfortable calling myself "republican" I usually say conservative ish/ almost libertarian. No matter what side you are on it would be childish to say that there aren't serious issues on both sides..

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If I may, you have to give pyg credit, not to be a kiss ass but he might be the most bipartisan person on the site. He gives both sides crap constantly. And you might be one of the most partisan people here, ..just sayin.

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First of all what does the ten year old believe? Why do the parent's beliefs play such a big role here??

The parents should tell the "truth" which is the fact that they DO NOT KNOW what is going to happen. Which brings us to an interesting point. Atheists claim that they don't know until cold hard evidence is in place yet they say there is no heaven as if it's a "cold hard truth". So it's not at all fare to call that truth. (:

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What's a chav? I'm to lazy to look it up.... ............................................................

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Wait, was this a joke??

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"They scream for the people to be allowed more freedom, yet force I.D. laws to restrict the voting rights of minorities."

How would that restrict voting rights?

"They say they want smaller government, but stop American people from marrying those that they love."

What are you talking about prop 8? It would be a big government move to ignore the majority vote would it not?

"In reality, they want the original America"

We want the good parts. Not slavery and discrimination.

"(hence the constant referrals to the constitutions greatness);"

Isn't it great? If protecting the constitution is what you mean by constant referrals then yeah.

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What do you mean "honor killing" like war?

The way I see it is that religions don't tell me to do things God does. But that opens up a whole other can of worms.

So If God tells me to do something I will trust in God and do it.

Look at this we're having a real debate without jokes! This is rare people. (;

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Real mayo is so so much better. This my friend is a high quality debate.

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Yes. and No.

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

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Who's giving these boundaries?

If we're talking about Government there seems to be a conflict because conservatives are generally religious yet they say they wan't smaller government. Which is fine but you can't ask for small Government and demand a bunch of morality laws.

The Government should help to an extent but people have to choose to have morals. It's funny I keep hearing everyone talking about rights and freedom but nobody seems to be talking about responsibility.

People can't be forced to be good people. It's like my friends who had stricked parents were always the ones to rebel and vise verse.

But I have to say just because somebody is an atheist doesn't mean that they don't have morals.

(I'm a conservative Christian by the way)

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Can I change my name to JoeCavalry?? (;

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Notice that not a single person on the other side has added reason to their arguments. Is this a poll or a debate?

It is laughable to hear people say that we're better off now. It is clear that the Obama administration is preventing states from having the freedom to help their individual economies. As well as interfering to much with businesses. The Government is getting to big. That's all there is to it. It really is that simple. Obama will continue to drain the middle class he's never done otherwise. His campaign is based on lies. When the Government is telling us that we need more and more government something is wrong. These are not complex issues.

We now have less weapons and our enemies have more. We're getting involved in so many things over seas and ignoring problems here. This needs to stop.

Mitt Romney has a large focus on helping the middle class and giving business more freedom so that the economy can take care of it's self. Also the state level government will be able to do it's job. He won't do weird things like return a statue of Winston Churchill. He's not an anti colonialist.

We actually know more about Mitt and Paul's life than we know about Obama's who didn't just come out of know-where like a celebrity.

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Are we not broke?

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I don't see why not.

I get so frustrated when conservatives say "oh I think Obamas a Muslim" that's the least of my worries. So what if he was?? Maybe he wouldnt suck so bad. All the Muslims I have met were way nice people.

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Compared to other websites/forums I have seen we're pretty lenient here when it comes to speling grammer and. (;

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Fine it's not cognitive dissonance it's just a lie from the left elitists. Much better. Cognitive dissonance just sounds so good though..dang.

The old lie is that the republicans are the rich greedy ones taking from the leftist little guy. There's much more to it than that and I'm not saying it's black and white. And I'm also not saying that we don't need roads and schools. (so tired of that argument by the way you libs are so in love with your roads and schools lol by the way have you ever seen the roads in a blue state they're always crap; not that I've been in every state)

Obama is an Apologist. K? And he doesn't get sole credit for anything good or bad including killing Osama.

I'm not as partisan as you seem to think. If I was saying that only democrats are to blame and everyone who is republican was great your arguments would hold more weight. But I'm not.

You're saying "our problems are better and more complex than yours". I'm saying all of those problems suck and I have nothing to do with them. Not that I'm perfect I'm wrong sometimes. But man it's great to not be tied to anything such as a party. -but I would still refer to myself as a conservative/libertarian.

The fact of the matter is that there are many types of liberals and your comment about cognitive dissonance is completely flawed. End of story.


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