Let's take a peak, shall we?
Orwellian doublespeak-
Doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g. "downsizing" for layoffs, "servicing the target" for bombing[1]), in which case it is primarily meant to make the truth sound more palatable. It may also refer to intentional ambiguity in language or to actual inversions of meaning. In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth. Doublespeak is most closely associated with political language.
It doesn't matter. Orwell never invisioned the left would be the one manifesting his worst nightmare. Western Liberals in his day were nothing like today. Hell, Western liberals in 1992 were nothing like the left of today.
Orwell's nightmare consisted of "political speak", consisting of the muzzling of certain terms and redefining of words, and it used chanted slogans. Sound right wingy to you? Me neither.
No, idiot, it's the western Right who will run to the western Left as we turncoat against the Islamists.
Bwahahahaha! That's a good one Ming. The Western left is like Orwell's "Animal Farm". We can't tell the leftists from the Muslims anymore.
Cool. So if I’m born in Kansas, will I have the same opportunity to become a mountain climber as someone in Idaho?
Yes.
Is my opportunity to be a merchant mariner the same as a person born on the coast?
Yes.
Diversity means unequal opportunities.
Indeed. But welcome to Looney Tunesville anyway.
That's what I just implied. The left will force a situation where right wing Islam faces off with Westernized right wingers, and leftists have nowhere to run except for the Westernized right.
Do you think these people vote with leftists without the full intent of taking them over by force, taking advantage of their left wing enemy's stupidity?
We have the Westernized left, which preaches diversity and inclusion, and breeds at the pace of a dead corpse, and you have an ideology programmed for hyper masculinity and domination with 2 billion followers that breeds like rabbits because Allah heaps rewards in the afterlife on the fertile, reproducing Muslim woman. Who do you really think ends up in control in the end?
The only way it is the West is if the Western right pushes the left out of its way.
Cool. So why did you pick the gay dragon Smaug's voice for your picture?
There are MANY institutions that I've lost faith with..
Me too. I think the Democrats in Congress are pushing further and further towards Looney Tunesville, and the Republicans need to grow a nutsack and do what they promise.
The Supreme Court is NOT one of them..
I hope you're right.
Do I think a liberal Supreme Court would have let Obama TAKE money that wasn't appropriated, and spend it on whatever HE wanted to spend it on???
Uhhh, NO.. No, I don't!
Do you really Con?
Using leftistism to destroy leftistism...
In the near future, there won't be a Western left wing as it exists today. There will be the right fighting other versions of the right for control.
Do you think culturally that Muslims and Hispanics are liberal? As they take more and more control of the Democratic Party, that party will become more like those cultures, anti gay and toxically masculine by modern leftist definitions. If you shut off the border and all immigration today, they'd outbreed the libs within a decade. Real leftists hardly breed comparatively speaking.
If you really think about it, the Western right wing is the only thing slowing down the Western left from destroying its own existence.
Of course, in the future, what will really happen is a lot of Westernized people will be killed and leftists will have to adopt Western right wing thought and retreat to people who already think that way, simply to survive, because they'll be targets of foreign versions of right wing thought.
That isn't possible while some people are born into poverty and others are born with a silver spoon in their ass.
Interesting. So if I work harder than my neighbors, should I have more, and should I be able to share that money with my family and kids?
There will always be differences, what equality really means is that everyone has the same rights and opportunities
Sweet. Would you say affirmative action for black kids provides that vs an Asian kid with no affirmative action?
For the last 75 years, having NO border with Mexico was cool..
We fought wars with Mexico over boundry disputes. There has always been a border. Bill Clinton was "disturbed" by the influx, liberals clapped, and that was in 1992, pre caravans. I'm assuming you liked him and clapped too. No?
We LOVED having 'em here.. They washed your dishes, picked your fruit, and blew your leaves..
Of course, there weren't lines of caravans with thousands of people and Marxist activists coaching them back then.
Then a guy came down an escalator and called Mexicans RAPISTS, and MURDERERS.
Some of them are. You got a plan for that or are our children just a price to be paid to feel liberaly...
Thought for the day: Is compassion on the foreigner actually compassion if you know little girls and women are being trafficked and raped trying to get here because of that weak ass border?
https://kjzz.org/content/9552/
Pharmacist Maria Jaime Peña said women often come in asking her the same, exact question.
“What can I do in case I’m raped, and I don’t want to get pregnant?,” Peña repeated in Spanish from behind the counter. “What can I use?”
Peña recommends an injection for 48 pesos, or less than $4, that protects women from pregnancy for a month. In Mexico, women can buy these products without a prescription.
Peña said sometimes it is the guides — also called coyotes — who advise their female clients to go on birth control.
That was the case for Maria Salinas, a petite 43-year-old who recently tried crossing with her 18-year-old daughter.
Salinas said at first she was confused when a guide at the start of the trip offered her and other women pills he said would prevent pregnancy.
Later on, it made sense to her.
“Because the coyotes know what they are going to do in the middle of the desert,” she said in Spanish.
Once Salinas started walking with the group, she couldn’t keep up. She said one coyote said he’d wait for her, but he had a condition.
“If I gave him my daughter, then he’d wait for me,” Salinas said. Meaning, if she let him have sex with her daughter.
They refused, and he abandoned them.
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76 immigrants found in trailer near Laredo
Nearly 80 undocumented immigrants, including 13 unaccompanied children, were found inside a tractor-trailer northeast of Laredo, according to the Border Patrol.
Agents working at a checkpoint on U.S. 83 on Friday found the 76 immigrants from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala in the trailer of a northbound truck, according to a news release from the Border Patrol. The immigrants were in “good health” according to the news release and the truck’s U.S. citizen driver was arrested.
Excuse me Con if I'm disturbed that groups would intentionally create the conditions that allow for this, say they aren't open borders, and in the name of compassion, and then say there's no emergency...
Or...we could just let everybody that wants in come in. Sweden and its neighboring countries tried that. Finally, the most liberal areas on Earth had to shut the door and say enough. I take care to learn from others' mistakes rather than my own when I can. If the results are bad enough to make the libbyest of libs say "holy shit Batman", I choose to not partake.
I'll let you in on a secret. Mexicans don't vote Democrat because they are liberals. They vote Democrat to get their families into the country. Once they outnumber you, and your party isn't useful, they'll abandon you and create their own ideology and territory, as if they aren't already. Noticing that your party's far far left is getting browner and browner? That's not because they are bad. It's because they come from different cultures and situations, which is passed down. That's what Sweden and Germany learned, hopefully not too late. If they were white Russians, it would still happen the same way.
It's nice to help when you can. But to condemn overunning and taking land from a host as libs do, then turn around and try to take down and overrun a host, is not a moral position. It's one of many reasons I am anti war overall. Having thousands or millions of people forced on you and crammed down your throat on your own land really sucks.
When I was in the Middle East, I saw a bunch of people who saw foreigners that didn't look or act like them, or speak the language, and I saw two reactions, neither good. Fear. Hate.
That normal reaction is what the American left is manifesting in America, and it will destroy this country. Too many opposite and counter ideas doesn't equal melting pots. It leads to fear and hate on all sides.
Have you noticed that regardless of race or religion, they and we, all create our own territories despite living in the same country? Without slow assimilation you create seperate countries and/or war and violence.
That's where we are headed to. Tribes. Only these tribes on all sides are big enough and armed enough to go to war. Death and carnage all around you has a traumatizing effect, and it is worth preventing.
Identity politics, race baiting, demonizing and open borders do not prevent any of the above. They create it and feed it.
The multicultural dream on some level was possible with slow assimilation. People would have tested the waters, had reasonably similar "American" ideas, and would have breeded children together, and I actually DO think we were heading in that direction.
But this new rabid leftist pace, has made that impossible. We have the black part of town getting blacker, the brown part of town getting browner, and the white part of town retreating back to the same, and they now almost all only breed with their own kind. They now have so many like kind choices, so why interbreed? Why assimilate? Why learn English? So many don't and aren't.
We are creating multiple countries within one country, and it will only end badly. There's not going to be multicultural anything in the end. There's going to wind up with multiple countries.
Want the inside playbook for how it's going to work?
It's easier to see the storm from inside it. I just don't want you to say I didn't warn you when it fully manifests. I did.
Or perhaps we can volunteer it as disaster relief funding to fix the damage to the barriers done by high winds, hurricanes, tornadoes, weather, etc. If it comes out as a wall, at this point, what difference does it make? Read my lips, this is not a wall. It's has a light on it, so it's a lighthouse.
What?
But we're going to call it a voluntary tax, not wall funding. If they build a wall with said tax, that's hardly our fault.
Dude!
So do I, but said pipe doesn't come with the fairytale dream. It actually comes with some smoke.
In this case we are being sold the illusion of action. I know you're in a small yacht that you like, but I got a bigger, better yacht. Free? Um. Yeah. It's better...and free...just give me your bank card and the access code as um....colateral. Yeah, yeah. Colateral. That's the ticket. Won't cost you a dime...and um...I'll take care of you.
Is that your pretty wife? Um...I'll need her too just in case. Here. Get in this cage. I'll give you a cookie from your jar. You can have that for free too. We'll look at the paperwork and fine print later. Just get in the cage first, and I'll read it to you.
I have the same question.
You didn't know I had a garden behind my house where I grow points, did you Outlaw?
Some things are exactly as they appear. Some things.
And in some instances, it's simply that the instigator's plan had a fatal flaw.
Hitler was a fascist who included the word "socialist" in his party name to win votes from the German left.
So leftists followed Hitler.
Here's my thinking Con. When a man offers you a pipe dream, he's trying to steal something from you. Think about it. A man comes up to you presenting you something "great", or a pyramid scheme, or a Kirby vacuum, what does he plan on doing?
Answer: see how much he can work you for. I worked a Kirby salesman down from $1,500 to $300. He planned on selling me a $300 Kirby for $1,500. He planned on jobbing me for $1,200.
It is the same here.
I don't disagree.. He HAS the power, justified or not..
It's whether that power allows him to take money, that not only HASN'T been appropriated by Congress, but WAS specifically DENIED funding by Congress..
I guess we will see.
On that issue, SCOTUS will rule in favor of CONGRESS..
Interesting Con. Would it if it were filled with Hillary Clinton appointments and the Congress was more right wing?
So, the emergency declaration'll stay in place.. Trump just won't have MONEY to DO anything with it..
He has $1.6 billion already. He can build a lot of wall while getting it figured out.
I was going to ask that you not come into this debate with outside, unrelated topics, but we are obviously done here. Carry on.
While we are on the topic, you can always ask me to stay out of a debate, and I will. Oh, come back here Amarel.
Also, I would like a hug from you. Oh, and about 20 minutes of snuggling where you pet me and call me a good boy.
I am a student of Marx whereas you are a typical American wah wah wah wah wah...
I'm still waiting for you to show us a list of left wing quotes from Mussolini, the creator of fascism. Wikiquote only has a bunch of left wingy quotes, and in one of them, Mussolini literally says that fascism is government control of businesses and the takedown of capitalism.
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini
The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.
As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932
Here, he trashes Christianity.
God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease.
“Religion: Benito a Christian?” Time magazine (Aug. 25, 1924)
Here he trashes patriotism.
For us the national flag is a rag to be planted on a dunghill. There are only two fatherlands in the world: that of the exploited and that of the exploiters.
La Lotta di Classe (1910), while a socialist, paraphrasing French socialist Gustave Hervé, quoted in Mussolini in the Making (1938) by Gaudens Megaro
Here, he openly claims to have a medallion of Marx and to be a Communist.
It was inevitable that I should become a Socialist ultra, a Blanquist, indeed a communist. I carried about a medallion with Marx’s head on it in my pocket. I think I regarded it as a sort of talisman… [Marx] had a profound critical intelligence and was in some sense even a prophet.
As quoted in Talks with Mussolini , Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933) p. 38. Interview between March 23 and April 4, 1932, at the Palazzo di Venezia in Rome
Red herrings against other site members won't help you here Nom. Do you need a reminder of the topic question, or were you intentionally avoiding it due to having no logical response?
You would lose a debate to a talking sock with a drawn on face. I wouldn't risk it.
The Department of Defense (DOD) released a statement saying the president invoked sections 12302, 284(b)(7), and 2808 of Title X of the U.S. Code.
Section 12302 authorizes "involuntary activation" of reserve troops to perform a "federal mission at the direction of the secretary of defense." Section 284(b)(7) allows the DOD to support counter-drug activities of other federal agencies, such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) "with the construction of roads, fences, and lighting" to disrupt drug trafficking.
Section 2808 of Title X authorizes the Defense secretary to decide whether barriers are necessary to support the actions of the armed services, and to redirect unobligated military construction funds to construct the border barriers.
The broad grant of discretion to the president could make it hard to persuade courts to rule that Mr. Trump exceeded his authority in declaring a border emergency.
"He's the one who gets to make the call. We can't second-guess it," said John Eastman, a professor of constitutional law at the Chapman University School of Law.
Courts often are reluctant to look beyond the justifications the president included in his proclamation, Ohio State University law professor Peter Shane said on a call organized by the liberal American Constitution Society.
Probably. Every barrier that is already in place was paid for by Americans. I'd gladly donate today.
Ted Cruz says billions in assets tied to 'El Chapo' may be used to fund the border wall. Wouldn't that be a daisy?
Err no, I'm not pinned because I'm not the one of us getting his information from Adolf Hitler. That's you buddy.
So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?
Either Hitler meant every word he said or
Or he lied about every word he said? No, I'm afraid that's false and stupid. Nobody lies 100 percent of the time. Not even you.
So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?
See above.
Above does not tell me why you seemingly believe words spoken by Hitler which have since been proven to be untrue. Perhaps you should try again.
Cool. So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?
If he had stood up and said all of the things in wikiquote
He trashes the left in a good percentage of the quotes on the same Wikiquote page you cherry-picked your own quote from you idiotic bastard.
No. He trashes a specific part of leftism. Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi do the same. They are still leftists.
You literally went fishing for Hitler quotes where he pretends to have some sympathy for socialism, like you always do, because you are a neo-Nazi. That's exactly what Hitler himself would have done in your own position you berk.
Uh huh. Hitler would give antisemitic speech, like you and unlike me.
Nice spelling bro.
Red herrings aren't going to help you here Nom. I'm still waiting for you to explain why Nazis were eating up Hitler's left wing speech if they were a bunch of right wingers.
We declare war against socialism
Which isn't a quote on the link provided.
According to an unknown, unnamed, anonymous source.
According to Wikipedia, your favorite source.
Up to 2008, Kessler was a supporter of Democrats and held avid liberal views. He'd worked for Secrest Strategic Services and had voted for Barack Obama during his presidential run. He also engaged in activism with the Occupy movement before being dismissed for attempting to register homeless individuals. In a public Facebook post by former college friend, Jenny Rebecca, Kessler lived for a time in government-subsidized housing with a roommate who was described as an African Muslim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JasonKessler
Secrest Strategic Services being a former Democrat Party company.
https://www.campaignsandelections.com/
Sure you are. In his book "Rules for Radicals"
If I'm not familiar with him then obviously I won't have read his book will I you flaming retard?
Sure you have. That's why you use his exact strategies and have never denied it in the past.
I asked for quotes. I couldn't care less what a left winger CLAIMS. The creator of fascism would be who decides what fascism IS, and he said fascism was the state takeover of business.
Mussolini quote-
The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.
As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini
You have any right wing Mussolini quotes? I'm waiting.
Doesn't sound like bro's to me.
Does Hitler allying with the Communist USSR to invade right wing Poland sound right wing?
Or, how about Hitler's greatest ally being a man who said all of this:
Still waiting for you to provide us a link showing Mussolini , the creator of fascism, wasn't a left winger, so we can examine the data.
All of his wikiquote quotes are left wing.
f you are familiar with Alinsky tactics
I am not familiar with them. I had never even heard the name Saul Alinsky before you began spamming it in chat. I thought he was a character in Breaking Bad, tbh.
Sure you are. In his book "Rules for Radicals" he told you that if someone pins you in a debate to call them a Nazi to try and shut them up. What? You thought I hadn't noticed?
it's pretty obvious
Let me just clarify this a second. You are saying it is "perfectly obvious" that the leader of the Unite The Right neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville is a Democrat on the basis that he personally claimed he once voted for Obama?
And was an Occupy Wallstreet advocate months before the "rally".
Obviously no they are not, otherwise you would not have insisted that the leader of the "Unite The Right" rally is a Democrat on the basis that he claimed he once voted for Obama.
And was a vocal left wing advocate only months before organizing a klan rally with not enough klan members to be believable.
Sure.. We can PROUDLY take our LIBERAL signs to the next Trump rally.
Cool.
And, when Trump sets his goons on us as he surly will, we'll WHIP out our guns and STAND OUR GROUND..
Making a case for the 2nd Amendment, eh Con?
DUDE! You wanna paint the ENTIRE left with the antics of ONE jerkoff..
Nope. I want to paint over all these racist events we see when they are orchestrated by Alisnkyite leftists.
You know, like when a rabid leftist was an Occupy Wallstreet and Obama supporter/voter months before organizing a 12 man "Klan rally" where ANTIFA showed up and magically no one in either group died.
Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?
True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/
They are allowed to change their minds, but if you are familiar with Alinsky tactics, and we both are, it's pretty obvious. Occupy Wallstreet advocate months before organizing "Unite the Right"...
Not a chance in hell.
Then add that with this.
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/
A far right terrorist leader claims he once voted for Obama and in your impossibly stupid little bubble of idiocy that is enough for you to qualify him as a lifetime Democrat.
Or that, mixed with his past interviews being as a left wing advocate, and being a part of Occupy Wallstreet.
But as always, you are ignoring the obvious. The right doesn't claim or want him.
Want to see something odd?
Look at who writes this story...
The things you say are so retarded that it is addictive replying to them. You make people think to themselves: "He can't really believe that, can he? Nobody is that stupid".
You haven't rebutted any of it succesfully and in most cases, at all. Wonder why...
but you'll make absolutely no mention of the fact that he later grew older and literally declared war on socialism in Italy.
1)Explain why no quotes on wikiquote reflect your claim.
2)So give us some links to analyze.
Remember last week when you claimed the leader of the Unite The Right movement was on the left? Lol. According to you every solitary right wing terrorist and fascist political leader was and/or is on the left.
Jason Kessler voted for Obama and supported him right up until Trump was elected.
Where did I get that from? Oh look. It's Snopes.
Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?
True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/
Voted for a black man, was a left wing advocate and member of Occupy Wallstreet, Trump was elected, and suddenly he's organizing klan rallies of 12 people and ANTIFA shows up but no one gets killed...
Tell me more.
Omissions such as these are absolutely typical of your foolhardy treachery towards the facts.
It's not an ommission. It's an entire page, that you often quote, listing out his quotes.
Anti God. Anti capitalism. The opposite of right wing.
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini
The only way to deny this is a cognitive dissonance brainwashed so deep that it reaches into your bones.
Mussolini's father was a socialist and Mussolini himself joined the socialist party in his youth. The socialist party kicked him out for life and he later went on to change his views and found The Italian FASCIST Party.
Yes. He tells us all about it in his wikiquotes. He even describes fascism by name as left wing.
The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.
As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932
Not only is that completely false, but it doesn't explain why you are selectively repeating lies Hitler told the German people seventy years ago and pretending they are true.
You're pinned either way Nom. Either Hitler meant every word he said or tricked a mass of Germans who think just like you into murdering 6 million Jews.
I do not believe Hitler, but you clearly do believe Hitler.
See above.
Hence, have a good hard think about which one of us that makes a "Hitlerite" you retarded neo-fascist buffoon.
Well, let's see Nom. If he had stood up and said all of the things in wikiquote, guess which one of us would have cheered while he trashed capiralism.
And Mussolini, who created fascism, said all kinds of left wing things too. Why do they all say left wing things? Why don't these jagaloons ever say things in their quotes like "capitalism is good."......
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini
I read wikiquote's entire Goebbels, Mussolini, and Hitler quotes. Not one Republican position. They sound exactly like far left Democrats.
You literally just quoted Hitler at me you impossibly stupid child. You can't regurgitate Hitler's lies about "social justice" and then call someone else a Hitlerite in your next post. I don't pay any attention to the things Hitler said, but you quote him on an hourly basis you idiot.
1)I only quote him when you bring him up, which is about every ten minutes. You seem to be obsessed with him.
2)Joseph Goebell's private letters to people are anti capitalist.
3)It's a nice Alisnky try Nom. The old, you can't quote Hitler in a debate about Hitler, when it was me who brought up Hitler tactic....
Murdering millions of people in a racist purge isn't social justice?
Cool. Because that's exactly what you claimed you want to do.
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Nom caught proving he is a Hitlerian fascist
Nom quote:
"Corbyn and his socialist army are coming for you. There is no escape. There is only assimilation or death."
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/TheresaMayshouldretire
Nom Quote proving he's an antisemitic Nazi:
"Shut up you extremist Jew prick."
Nom:
I believe that conservatives need to be banned from the internet and put in concentration camps where they will be force fed Marxism until they puke and ask for seconds.
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/
Uh huh. If we say he was a propagandist, let's look at his Propaganda Minister. Oh damn. He was a Communist.
