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Orwellian doublespeak-

Doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g. "downsizing" for layoffs, "servicing the target" for bombing[1]), in which case it is primarily meant to make the truth sound more palatable. It may also refer to intentional ambiguity in language or to actual inversions of meaning. In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth. Doublespeak is most closely associated with political language.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak

It doesn't matter. Orwell never invisioned the left would be the one manifesting his worst nightmare. Western Liberals in his day were nothing like today. Hell, Western liberals in 1992 were nothing like the left of today.

Orwell's nightmare consisted of "political speak", consisting of the muzzling of certain terms and redefining of words, and it used chanted slogans. Sound right wingy to you? Me neither.

No, idiot, it's the western Right who will run to the western Left as we turncoat against the Islamists.

Bwahahahaha! That's a good one Ming. The Western left is like Orwell's "Animal Farm". We can't tell the leftists from the Muslims anymore.

Cool. So if I’m born in Kansas, will I have the same opportunity to become a mountain climber as someone in Idaho?

Yes.

Is my opportunity to be a merchant mariner the same as a person born on the coast?

Yes.

Diversity means unequal opportunities.

Indeed. But welcome to Looney Tunesville anyway.

That's what I just implied. The left will force a situation where right wing Islam faces off with Westernized right wingers, and leftists have nowhere to run except for the Westernized right.

Do you think these people vote with leftists without the full intent of taking them over by force, taking advantage of their left wing enemy's stupidity?

We have the Westernized left, which preaches diversity and inclusion, and breeds at the pace of a dead corpse, and you have an ideology programmed for hyper masculinity and domination with 2 billion followers that breeds like rabbits because Allah heaps rewards in the afterlife on the fertile, reproducing Muslim woman. Who do you really think ends up in control in the end?

The only way it is the West is if the Western right pushes the left out of its way.

Cool. So why did you pick the gay dragon Smaug's voice for your picture?

There are MANY institutions that I've lost faith with..

Me too. I think the Democrats in Congress are pushing further and further towards Looney Tunesville, and the Republicans need to grow a nutsack and do what they promise.

The Supreme Court is NOT one of them..

I hope you're right.

Do I think a liberal Supreme Court would have let Obama TAKE money that wasn't appropriated, and spend it on whatever HE wanted to spend it on???

Uhhh, NO.. No, I don't!

Do you really Con?

Using leftistism to destroy leftistism...

In the near future, there won't be a Western left wing as it exists today. There will be the right fighting other versions of the right for control.

Do you think culturally that Muslims and Hispanics are liberal? As they take more and more control of the Democratic Party, that party will become more like those cultures, anti gay and toxically masculine by modern leftist definitions. If you shut off the border and all immigration today, they'd outbreed the libs within a decade. Real leftists hardly breed comparatively speaking.

If you really think about it, the Western right wing is the only thing slowing down the Western left from destroying its own existence.

Of course, in the future, what will really happen is a lot of Westernized people will be killed and leftists will have to adopt Western right wing thought and retreat to people who already think that way, simply to survive, because they'll be targets of foreign versions of right wing thought.

That isn't possible while some people are born into poverty and others are born with a silver spoon in their ass.

Interesting. So if I work harder than my neighbors, should I have more, and should I be able to share that money with my family and kids?

There will always be differences, what equality really means is that everyone has the same rights and opportunities

Sweet. Would you say affirmative action for black kids provides that vs an Asian kid with no affirmative action?

For the last 75 years, having NO border with Mexico was cool..

We fought wars with Mexico over boundry disputes. There has always been a border. Bill Clinton was "disturbed" by the influx, liberals clapped, and that was in 1992, pre caravans. I'm assuming you liked him and clapped too. No?

We LOVED having 'em here.. They washed your dishes, picked your fruit, and blew your leaves..

Of course, there weren't lines of caravans with thousands of people and Marxist activists coaching them back then.

Then a guy came down an escalator and called Mexicans RAPISTS, and MURDERERS.

Some of them are. You got a plan for that or are our children just a price to be paid to feel liberaly...

Thought for the day: Is compassion on the foreigner actually compassion if you know little girls and women are being trafficked and raped trying to get here because of that weak ass border?

https://kjzz.org/content/9552/facing-risk-rape-migrant-women-prepare-birth-control

Pharmacist Maria Jaime Peña said women often come in asking her the same, exact question.

“What can I do in case I’m raped, and I don’t want to get pregnant?,” Peña repeated in Spanish from behind the counter. “What can I use?”

Peña recommends an injection for 48 pesos, or less than $4, that protects women from pregnancy for a month. In Mexico, women can buy these products without a prescription.

Peña said sometimes it is the guides — also called coyotes — who advise their female clients to go on birth control.

That was the case for Maria Salinas, a petite 43-year-old who recently tried crossing with her 18-year-old daughter.

Salinas said at first she was confused when a guide at the start of the trip offered her and other women pills he said would prevent pregnancy.

Later on, it made sense to her.

“Because the coyotes know what they are going to do in the middle of the desert,” she said in Spanish.

Once Salinas started walking with the group, she couldn’t keep up. She said one coyote said he’d wait for her, but he had a condition.

“If I gave him my daughter, then he’d wait for me,” Salinas said. Meaning, if she let him have sex with her daughter.

They refused, and he abandoned them.

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76 immigrants found in trailer near Laredo

Nearly 80 undocumented immigrants, including 13 unaccompanied children, were found inside a tractor-trailer northeast of Laredo, according to the Border Patrol.

Agents working at a checkpoint on U.S. 83 on Friday found the 76 immigrants from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala in the trailer of a northbound truck, according to a news release from the Border Patrol. The immigrants were in “good health” according to the news release and the truck’s U.S. citizen driver was arrested.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/amp/76-immigrants-found-in-trailer-12534227.php

Excuse me Con if I'm disturbed that groups would intentionally create the conditions that allow for this, say they aren't open borders, and in the name of compassion, and then say there's no emergency...

Or...we could just let everybody that wants in come in. Sweden and its neighboring countries tried that. Finally, the most liberal areas on Earth had to shut the door and say enough. I take care to learn from others' mistakes rather than my own when I can. If the results are bad enough to make the libbyest of libs say "holy shit Batman", I choose to not partake.

I'll let you in on a secret. Mexicans don't vote Democrat because they are liberals. They vote Democrat to get their families into the country. Once they outnumber you, and your party isn't useful, they'll abandon you and create their own ideology and territory, as if they aren't already. Noticing that your party's far far left is getting browner and browner? That's not because they are bad. It's because they come from different cultures and situations, which is passed down. That's what Sweden and Germany learned, hopefully not too late. If they were white Russians, it would still happen the same way.

It's nice to help when you can. But to condemn overunning and taking land from a host as libs do, then turn around and try to take down and overrun a host, is not a moral position. It's one of many reasons I am anti war overall. Having thousands or millions of people forced on you and crammed down your throat on your own land really sucks.

When I was in the Middle East, I saw a bunch of people who saw foreigners that didn't look or act like them, or speak the language, and I saw two reactions, neither good. Fear. Hate.

That normal reaction is what the American left is manifesting in America, and it will destroy this country. Too many opposite and counter ideas doesn't equal melting pots. It leads to fear and hate on all sides.

Have you noticed that regardless of race or religion, they and we, all create our own territories despite living in the same country? Without slow assimilation you create seperate countries and/or war and violence.

That's where we are headed to. Tribes. Only these tribes on all sides are big enough and armed enough to go to war. Death and carnage all around you has a traumatizing effect, and it is worth preventing.

Identity politics, race baiting, demonizing and open borders do not prevent any of the above. They create it and feed it.

The multicultural dream on some level was possible with slow assimilation. People would have tested the waters, had reasonably similar "American" ideas, and would have breeded children together, and I actually DO think we were heading in that direction.

But this new rabid leftist pace, has made that impossible. We have the black part of town getting blacker, the brown part of town getting browner, and the white part of town retreating back to the same, and they now almost all only breed with their own kind. They now have so many like kind choices, so why interbreed? Why assimilate? Why learn English? So many don't and aren't.

We are creating multiple countries within one country, and it will only end badly. There's not going to be multicultural anything in the end. There's going to wind up with multiple countries.

Want the inside playbook for how it's going to work?

https://youtu.be/ET7051aE5Y4

It's easier to see the storm from inside it. I just don't want you to say I didn't warn you when it fully manifests. I did.

Or perhaps we can volunteer it as disaster relief funding to fix the damage to the barriers done by high winds, hurricanes, tornadoes, weather, etc. If it comes out as a wall, at this point, what difference does it make? Read my lips, this is not a wall. It's has a light on it, so it's a lighthouse.

What?

But we're going to call it a voluntary tax, not wall funding. If they build a wall with said tax, that's hardly our fault.

Dude!

So do I, but said pipe doesn't come with the fairytale dream. It actually comes with some smoke.

In this case we are being sold the illusion of action. I know you're in a small yacht that you like, but I got a bigger, better yacht. Free? Um. Yeah. It's better...and free...just give me your bank card and the access code as um....colateral. Yeah, yeah. Colateral. That's the ticket. Won't cost you a dime...and um...I'll take care of you.

Is that your pretty wife? Um...I'll need her too just in case. Here. Get in this cage. I'll give you a cookie from your jar. You can have that for free too. We'll look at the paperwork and fine print later. Just get in the cage first, and I'll read it to you.

I have the same question.

You didn't know I had a garden behind my house where I grow points, did you Outlaw?

Some things are exactly as they appear. Some things.

And in some instances, it's simply that the instigator's plan had a fatal flaw.

Hitler was a fascist who included the word "socialist" in his party name to win votes from the German left.

So leftists followed Hitler.

Here's my thinking Con. When a man offers you a pipe dream, he's trying to steal something from you. Think about it. A man comes up to you presenting you something "great", or a pyramid scheme, or a Kirby vacuum, what does he plan on doing?

Answer: see how much he can work you for. I worked a Kirby salesman down from $1,500 to $300. He planned on selling me a $300 Kirby for $1,500. He planned on jobbing me for $1,200.

It is the same here.

I don't disagree.. He HAS the power, justified or not..

It's whether that power allows him to take money, that not only HASN'T been appropriated by Congress, but WAS specifically DENIED funding by Congress..

I guess we will see.

On that issue, SCOTUS will rule in favor of CONGRESS..

Interesting Con. Would it if it were filled with Hillary Clinton appointments and the Congress was more right wing?

So, the emergency declaration'll stay in place.. Trump just won't have MONEY to DO anything with it..

He has $1.6 billion already. He can build a lot of wall while getting it figured out.

I was going to ask that you not come into this debate with outside, unrelated topics, but we are obviously done here. Carry on.

While we are on the topic, you can always ask me to stay out of a debate, and I will. Oh, come back here Amarel.

Also, I would like a hug from you. Oh, and about 20 minutes of snuggling where you pet me and call me a good boy.

I am a student of Marx whereas you are a typical American wah wah wah wah wah...

I'm still waiting for you to show us a list of left wing quotes from Mussolini, the creator of fascism. Wikiquote only has a bunch of left wingy quotes, and in one of them, Mussolini literally says that fascism is government control of businesses and the takedown of capitalism.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.

As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932

Here, he trashes Christianity.

God does not exist—religion in science is an absurdity, in practice an immorality and in men a disease.

“Religion: Benito a Christian?” Time magazine (Aug. 25, 1924)

Here he trashes patriotism.

For us the national flag is a rag to be planted on a dunghill. There are only two fatherlands in the world: that of the exploited and that of the exploiters.

La Lotta di Classe (1910), while a socialist, paraphrasing French socialist Gustave Hervé, quoted in Mussolini in the Making (1938) by Gaudens Megaro

Here, he openly claims to have a medallion of Marx and to be a Communist.

It was inevitable that I should become a Socialist ultra, a Blanquist, indeed a communist. I carried about a medallion with Marx’s head on it in my pocket. I think I regarded it as a sort of talisman… [Marx] had a profound critical intelligence and was in some sense even a prophet.

As quoted in Talks with Mussolini , Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933) p. 38. Interview between March 23 and April 4, 1932, at the Palazzo di Venezia in Rome

Red herrings against other site members won't help you here Nom. Do you need a reminder of the topic question, or were you intentionally avoiding it due to having no logical response?

You would lose a debate to a talking sock with a drawn on face. I wouldn't risk it.

The Department of Defense (DOD) released a statement saying the president invoked sections 12302, 284(b)(7), and 2808 of Title X of the U.S. Code.

Section 12302 authorizes "involuntary activation" of reserve troops to perform a "federal mission at the direction of the secretary of defense." Section 284(b)(7) allows the DOD to support counter-drug activities of other federal agencies, such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) "with the construction of roads, fences, and lighting" to disrupt drug trafficking.

Section 2808 of Title X authorizes the Defense secretary to decide whether barriers are necessary to support the actions of the armed services, and to redirect unobligated military construction funds to construct the border barriers.

The broad grant of discretion to the president could make it hard to persuade courts to rule that Mr. Trump exceeded his authority in declaring a border emergency.

"He's the one who gets to make the call. We can't second-guess it," said John Eastman, a professor of constitutional law at the Chapman University School of Law.

Courts often are reluctant to look beyond the justifications the president included in his proclamation, Ohio State University law professor Peter Shane said on a call organized by the liberal American Constitution Society.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/national-emergency-declaration-already-facing-legal-challenges-trump-2019-02-16/

Probably. Every barrier that is already in place was paid for by Americans. I'd gladly donate today.

Ted Cruz says billions in assets tied to 'El Chapo' may be used to fund the border wall. Wouldn't that be a daisy?

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=news&id=4253

Err no, I'm not pinned because I'm not the one of us getting his information from Adolf Hitler. That's you buddy.

So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?

Either Hitler meant every word he said or

Or he lied about every word he said? No, I'm afraid that's false and stupid. Nobody lies 100 percent of the time. Not even you.

So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?

See above.

Above does not tell me why you seemingly believe words spoken by Hitler which have since been proven to be untrue. Perhaps you should try again.

Cool. So why were Nazis following and applauding fake left wing speech?

If he had stood up and said all of the things in wikiquote

He trashes the left in a good percentage of the quotes on the same Wikiquote page you cherry-picked your own quote from you idiotic bastard.

No. He trashes a specific part of leftism. Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi do the same. They are still leftists.

You literally went fishing for Hitler quotes where he pretends to have some sympathy for socialism, like you always do, because you are a neo-Nazi. That's exactly what Hitler himself would have done in your own position you berk.

Uh huh. Hitler would give antisemitic speech, like you and unlike me.

Nice spelling bro.

Red herrings aren't going to help you here Nom. I'm still waiting for you to explain why Nazis were eating up Hitler's left wing speech if they were a bunch of right wingers.

We declare war against socialism

Which isn't a quote on the link provided.

According to an unknown, unnamed, anonymous source.

According to Wikipedia, your favorite source.

Up to 2008, Kessler was a supporter of Democrats and held avid liberal views. He'd worked for Secrest Strategic Services and had voted for Barack Obama during his presidential run. He also engaged in activism with the Occupy movement before being dismissed for attempting to register homeless individuals. In a public Facebook post by former college friend, Jenny Rebecca, Kessler lived for a time in government-subsidized housing with a roommate who was described as an African Muslim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JasonKessler

Secrest Strategic Services being a former Democrat Party company.

https://www.campaignsandelections.com/campaign-insider/democratic-pollster-alan-secrest-closes- firm

Sure you are. In his book "Rules for Radicals"

If I'm not familiar with him then obviously I won't have read his book will I you flaming retard?

Sure you have. That's why you use his exact strategies and have never denied it in the past.

I asked for quotes. I couldn't care less what a left winger CLAIMS. The creator of fascism would be who decides what fascism IS, and he said fascism was the state takeover of business.

Mussolini quote-

The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.

As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

You have any right wing Mussolini quotes? I'm waiting.

Doesn't sound like bro's to me.

Does Hitler allying with the Communist USSR to invade right wing Poland sound right wing?

Or, how about Hitler's greatest ally being a man who said all of this:

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

Still waiting for you to provide us a link showing Mussolini , the creator of fascism, wasn't a left winger, so we can examine the data.

All of his wikiquote quotes are left wing.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

f you are familiar with Alinsky tactics

I am not familiar with them. I had never even heard the name Saul Alinsky before you began spamming it in chat. I thought he was a character in Breaking Bad, tbh.

Sure you are. In his book "Rules for Radicals" he told you that if someone pins you in a debate to call them a Nazi to try and shut them up. What? You thought I hadn't noticed?

it's pretty obvious

Let me just clarify this a second. You are saying it is "perfectly obvious" that the leader of the Unite The Right neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville is a Democrat on the basis that he personally claimed he once voted for Obama?

And was an Occupy Wallstreet advocate months before the "rally".

Obviously no they are not, otherwise you would not have insisted that the leader of the "Unite The Right" rally is a Democrat on the basis that he claimed he once voted for Obama.

And was a vocal left wing advocate only months before organizing a klan rally with not enough klan members to be believable.

Sure.. We can PROUDLY take our LIBERAL signs to the next Trump rally.

Cool.

And, when Trump sets his goons on us as he surly will, we'll WHIP out our guns and STAND OUR GROUND..

Making a case for the 2nd Amendment, eh Con?

DUDE! You wanna paint the ENTIRE left with the antics of ONE jerkoff..

Nope. I want to paint over all these racist events we see when they are orchestrated by Alisnkyite leftists.

You know, like when a rabid leftist was an Occupy Wallstreet and Obama supporter/voter months before organizing a 12 man "Klan rally" where ANTIFA showed up and magically no one in either group died.

Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?

True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/jason-kessler-soros-deep-state-plant/

They are allowed to change their minds, but if you are familiar with Alinsky tactics, and we both are, it's pretty obvious. Occupy Wallstreet advocate months before organizing "Unite the Right"...

Not a chance in hell.

Then add that with this.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Does thelefthaveanythingotherthanAlinskyattacksontheright

A far right terrorist leader claims he once voted for Obama and in your impossibly stupid little bubble of idiocy that is enough for you to qualify him as a lifetime Democrat.

Or that, mixed with his past interviews being as a left wing advocate, and being a part of Occupy Wallstreet.

But as always, you are ignoring the obvious. The right doesn't claim or want him.

Want to see something odd?

Look at who writes this story...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/tag/cnns-jason-kessler/

The things you say are so retarded that it is addictive replying to them. You make people think to themselves: "He can't really believe that, can he? Nobody is that stupid".

You haven't rebutted any of it succesfully and in most cases, at all. Wonder why...

but you'll make absolutely no mention of the fact that he later grew older and literally declared war on socialism in Italy.

1)Explain why no quotes on wikiquote reflect your claim.

2)So give us some links to analyze.

Remember last week when you claimed the leader of the Unite The Right movement was on the left? Lol. According to you every solitary right wing terrorist and fascist political leader was and/or is on the left.

Jason Kessler voted for Obama and supported him right up until Trump was elected.

Where did I get that from? Oh look. It's Snopes.

Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?

True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/jason-kessler-soros-deep-state-plant/

Voted for a black man, was a left wing advocate and member of Occupy Wallstreet, Trump was elected, and suddenly he's organizing klan rallies of 12 people and ANTIFA shows up but no one gets killed...

Tell me more.

Omissions such as these are absolutely typical of your foolhardy treachery towards the facts.

It's not an ommission. It's an entire page, that you often quote, listing out his quotes.

Anti God. Anti capitalism. The opposite of right wing.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

The only way to deny this is a cognitive dissonance brainwashed so deep that it reaches into your bones.

Mussolini's father was a socialist and Mussolini himself joined the socialist party in his youth. The socialist party kicked him out for life and he later went on to change his views and found The Italian FASCIST Party.

Yes. He tells us all about it in his wikiquotes. He even describes fascism by name as left wing.

The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in theVal d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes. The capitalists will go on doing what they are told, down to the very end. They have no option and cannot put up any fight. Capital is not God; it is only a means to an end.

As quoted in Talks with Mussolini, Emil Ludwig, Boston, MA, Little, Brown and Company (1933), pp. 153-154, Interview took place between March 23 and April 4, 1932

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

Not only is that completely false, but it doesn't explain why you are selectively repeating lies Hitler told the German people seventy years ago and pretending they are true.

You're pinned either way Nom. Either Hitler meant every word he said or tricked a mass of Germans who think just like you into murdering 6 million Jews.

I do not believe Hitler, but you clearly do believe Hitler.

See above.

Hence, have a good hard think about which one of us that makes a "Hitlerite" you retarded neo-fascist buffoon.

Well, let's see Nom. If he had stood up and said all of the things in wikiquote, guess which one of us would have cheered while he trashed capiralism.

And Mussolini, who created fascism, said all kinds of left wing things too. Why do they all say left wing things? Why don't these jagaloons ever say things in their quotes like "capitalism is good."......

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

I read wikiquote's entire Goebbels, Mussolini, and Hitler quotes. Not one Republican position. They sound exactly like far left Democrats.

You literally just quoted Hitler at me you impossibly stupid child. You can't regurgitate Hitler's lies about "social justice" and then call someone else a Hitlerite in your next post. I don't pay any attention to the things Hitler said, but you quote him on an hourly basis you idiot.

1)I only quote him when you bring him up, which is about every ten minutes. You seem to be obsessed with him.

2)Joseph Goebell's private letters to people are anti capitalist.

3)It's a nice Alisnky try Nom. The old, you can't quote Hitler in a debate about Hitler, when it was me who brought up Hitler tactic....

Murdering millions of people in a racist purge isn't social justice?

Cool. Because that's exactly what you claimed you want to do.

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Nom caught proving he is a Hitlerian fascist

Nom quote:

"Corbyn and his socialist army are coming for you. There is no escape. There is only assimilation or death."

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/TheresaMayshouldretire

Nom Quote proving he's an antisemitic Nazi:

"Shut up you extremist Jew prick."

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/JewsoftheworldItscomingAGAINHATEisintheairYoucanFEELitcantyou,,z

Nom:

I believe that conservatives need to be banned from the internet and put in concentration camps where they will be force fed Marxism until they puke and ask for seconds.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Homework shouldbeabolished3#arg957770

Uh huh. If we say he was a propagandist, let's look at his Propaganda Minister. Oh damn. He was a Communist.

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/JosephGoebbels

Do you think cherry-picking a Hitler quote from your Bible of fascist speeches takes back the Holocaust?

Here's an entire site, that you approve of, of Hitler quotes. Left, left, left, left...

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/AdolfHitler

Hitler's idea of "social justice" was murdering millions of people you retard

What's your point?

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Nom caught proving he is a Hitlerian fascist

Nom quote:

"Corbyn and his socialist army are coming for you. There is no escape. There is only assimilation or death."

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/TheresaMayshouldretire

Nom Quote proving he's an antisemitic Nazi:

"Shut up you extremist Jew prick."

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/JewsoftheworldItscomingAGAINHATEisintheairYoucanFEELitcantyou,,z

Nom:

I believe that conservatives need to be banned from the internet and put in concentration camps where they will be force fed Marxism until they puke and ask for seconds.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Homework shouldbeabolished3#arg957770

How many times does it actually have to be explained to you that Adolf Hitler is not a credible source of information because he was very possibly the biggest liar in political history

How many times do I have to explain to you that a right winger wouldn't pretend to be a leftist, unless his Nazi minions were leftists?

-Adolf Hitler-

Because it seems inseparable from the social idea and we do not believe that there could ever exist a state with lasting inner health if it is not built on internal social justice, and so we have joined forces with this knowledge.

"Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. Translated from Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 16. Jahrg., 4. H. (Oct., 1968), pp. 390-420. Edited by Carolyn Yeager

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/AdolfHitler

-Benito Mussolini-

Fascism establishes the real equality of individuals before the nation… the object of the regime in the economic field is to ensure higher social justice for the whole of the Italian people… What does social justice mean? It means work guaranteed, fair wages, decent homes, it means the possibility of continuous evolution and improvement. Nor is this enough. It means that the workers must enter more and more intimately into the productive process and share its necessary discipline… As the past century was the century of capitalist power, the twentieth century is the century of power and glory of labour.

Four Speeches on the Corporate State, Rome, (1935) pp. 39-40. Speech delivered to the workers in Milan. Eric Jabbari, Pierre Laroque and the Welfare State in Postwar France, Oxford University Press, (2012) p. 46

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/BenitoMussolini

Wonder where lefties got that term...

Nahhh... All they know is to STOP people from crossing the border..

And how do do it effectively and what would help to do it effectively.

If our laws said NOBODY can cross the border, then they wouldn't know any more about the border than Washington Democrats.

Last I checked, crossing at a non-legal port of entry is illegal.

But, SOME crossings are LEGAL..

Such as?

Just from looking at 'em, I couldn't tell which ones are legal and which ones aren't..

Or smuggling child prostitutes...

We need JUDGES to determine that, not some yahoo cop..

Cool. So what's your plan if 100 million Russians and/or Chinese decide to cross into Alaska and enter from the North? Hire more judges?

I'm EXCON..

Yes you are.

I stand BEHIND everything I say.

Cool.

Does that make me BETTER than the hiders??

It depends on what you mean. Snipers hide. So do people on the run. And so do Seals sneaking up on terrorists. Illegal aliens hide.

Catch my drift?

Indeed, but it will be a temporary win. His Communist overlords are well known for killing their own when they are no longer useful, and sometimes for no reason at all.

I am a man

Sure you are.

and I hate Hillary Clinton the authoritarian centrist.

Sure you do.

I also don't like making a scene in public.

Passive aggresive. Normal leftist.

Here is what I actually sound like

The guy on Silence of the Lambs with the girl in the dugeon?

https://youtu.be/QRqXBsgnYok

Bronto, nobody on this entire website believes a single word you say. You're a confirmed liar, and an unashamed one at that. Not even other Nazis believe you when you open your fat stupid mouth.

So list us ten lies I told with proof. I'll wait.

People tell me I sound and act like Dwayne Johnson.

Ahahahaha. Yeah, people tell me I remind them of Brad Pitt in his glory era.

Shut up you fucking retard.

Couldn't care less. Anything else burritolunch?

Bwahahahaha! Nom calls it a far right, neo nazi piece, and it's a black guy that sometimes votes for Democrats!

😂

None of these are mine, except the first one. You should really stop making all of these puppet accounts. I think you are addicted. You have a puppet addiction.

Obviously you invented that list

Nope. Everyone knows who they belong to.

to attempt to confuse anybody following your trail.

Uh huh. I'm confused as to your logic as we speak.

It is absolutely standard practice for Nazis to go on the offensive when they get caught trying to manipulate things.

You sure do know Nazi ideology, don't you nom, or did uou just make something up again?

I do not own the accounts

Sure you do.

you have linked and indeed many of those names you have included just to fill up space, because they are not even listed in the Create Debate userbase.

And why would you know that Nom?

Even the accounts which are in the userbase have not written anything on the site in months.

See above.

The fact of the matter Bronto is that you are a mean-spirited, nasty little retard who conflates intelligence with being a raging liar.

Cool. An anti-Jewish, anti-Christian bigot calling me mean spirited. I'll relish the compliment.

Pretty simple Nom. Andy has the messages. This account isn't the one that got the ban...burritolunch...

I'll let you guess as to whether I pointed that out to him or not.

And then there's the main thing. Your logic has a flaw that you didn't notice. Have a wonderful day.

Cool. Speaking of site cancers.

List of Nom dupe accounts

ColonelFry

BurritoLunch

Carterusmbot

Blood

TheCreator

BobBarker

Hootie

SuperNom

Zombieguy87

TheFactsOfit

Impirum

YousifDuck1

Quantumhead

DarthSidious

Rusticus

DragonBorn

ArchonElite

ChiefToad

NumberNine

NumberFive

KyloRen

Warjin

TheSnake

Ramshutu

Sv3rige

Nomenclature

NumberOne

TheDevil

TheNotorious

Ctrlaltdel

Justicebaker

Justignoreme

Dreadnought

JoeTheJew

JoeBloggs

Rothschild

Mrcatsam

borisdecker 

TheNotorious

Deathwolf666

Jamesbody

AlMualim

grapesNcrepe

HyperComm5

Waylife

Freyr

AveSatanas

Factfanx

Funtits

Waylife

Saggyballs

Iameerah

Spartacus

Kalamazoo

ModusPonem

Rogerfederer

Gruffalo

Lizarrd

ChiefToad

WormNugget

Winterhold

Misery

JoseAquacate

Hootie

Cool. Jamesbody admits he's a puppet account, because it wasn't jamesbody that turned me in. Not really very bright are you Nom?

Oops. I screenshot you saying it.

Here, have an upvote for your mistake.

You should say "fucking" more. It makes you sound like you're in Mommy's house, playing Skyrim.

Newsflash. "Fucking" isn't a conjunction. Now you know.

Cool, except that I'm neither white, nor do I have a lisp. People tell me I sound and act like Dwayne Johnson.

While we're at it, here's what I imagine you sounding like:

https://youtu.be/3OG6IO76-iY

Indeed. One only needeth decide whether they want said snatch with whipped cream or chocolate syrup, or both.

I can feel the vitamins entering me as we speak.

-2 points

Unless you are having a one on one debate.

It could also be argued that this is not a public site, but a public/private site, seeing it allows for private debates.

Manafort threw himself on his sword to SAVE Trump. Will Trump SAVE him?

I will present you a long winded quote from a brilliant philosopher on this issue.

"Sure."

-Excon

-2 points

You can't defend Marxism regardless of any other variables or exponents...

1 point

Trump declared a NATIONAL EMERGENCY, and then went to play golf.. It just doesn't SEEM like an emergency if you can PLAY golf in the midst of it..

Cool. Do you like flashbacks? I know I sure as hell do.

A Terrorist Horror, Then Golf: Incongruity Fuels Obama Critics

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/22/us/politics/a-terrorist-horror-then-golf-incongruity-fuels-obama-critics.html

Assuming you think terrorism is an emergency...

Do you have EMERGENCIES at home, and then go to the movies???

I do like Obama did, and go golfing, or dancing, or to a baseball game with a Communist dictator in Cuba.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/18/adoring-press-detail-obamas-golf-vacation-while-lo/

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/22/us/politics/a-terrorist-horror-then-golf-incongruity-fuels-obama-critics.html

Or...I send personel to handle the emergency, then do whatever the hell I want, but that's just me.

Of course, because who doesn't get high from rape?

Limp dicked little panty wastes like you?

I'm sure everybody here is really interested in your opinion now that you've confessed to being a sexual psychopath.

I'll let you in on a secret Nom. People on this site imagine you with dick in hand at all times jerking it to Skyrim, pretending your enemies are virgins that you'll never touch, hence the nonstop hand jerk.

No US citizen is typically subject to the jurisdiction of ICE.

Exactly. When you are a non law breaking citizen, you are automatically, by default, one crime short of an illegal alien...

Even if you do find that one type of crime is more prevalent among immigrants, you haven’t shown that crime rates in general are higher.

Sure I have. Name one illegal alien not guilty of being illegal, thus guilty of a crime.

You LIKE Bumfuck, Oklahoma..

So did the Supersonics. Ahem...

So do a bunch of black guys that adore the place for some reason. Why do you think that is?

https://youtu.be/V3w7Q34gyQ4

I'm happy for you.. I LIKE NY City, where I can get a good corned beef sandwich..

And mugged in the same day.

It's true.. I avoid the flyover states as much as possible

So pretty much the entire country other than Seattle, the West Coast, and New York. Don't touch the soil Con. You might get some America on you...

The left wants to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies

If they want to prevent worms, they should impeach Corey Millhouse Booker.

Sure buddy. An hour ago you posted a massive list of names and claimed they were my "dupe accounts". I'm a little bit confused, because now you appear to be saying I'm not using any dupe accounts. I just wondered which one it was?

They somehow always appear when I provoke you by banning you to force them out. Isn't that amazing?

Yeah, but it's OK because I heard I can do it by wasting my life spamming pro-fascist propaganda on the internet. Happy days, hey buddy?

You waste your days by playing video games all day and being poor and miserable. I waste them doing what I want. Usually traveling or shopping. Anything else?

In any case, I'd be FINE if Mueller says Trump DIDN'T collude.. But, it's NOT collusion or lack thereof that counts.. It's the COVERUP.. That's how they nailed Nixon, isn't it?

Right. And the "cover up" got 10 Pinnochios from Mueller.

BuzzFeed: Sources say Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about proposed Moscow project (JAN 18)

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/17/politics/buzzfeed-trump-cohen-lie-congress-moscow/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/&rm=1

Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress (JAN 19)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html

There were STRONG suspicions of personal dealings between Trump and Putin. There was the un-American statement BY Trump "inviting" a foreign adversary to interfere with our election! There were questions about WHERE a huge amount of money was coming from, and WHERE a huge amount of anti-everything-American's-fought -wars-for was coming from on the internet.

You mean...created opposition research by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Probably why they never allowed the FBI to look at that "hacked server".

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/25/democrat-funded-anti-trump-dossier-sparked-fbi-rus/

Yeah, yeah, yeah... So says Sean Hannity.. You should excuse me if I wait for Mueller..

1)We did. He said Buzzfeed makes shit up.

2)How long you been waiting Con?

How many US citizens commit identity theft each year?

How many US citizens are automatically criminals by being here illegaly...

Looks like legal citizens winning 0 to 20,000,000 on that one, eh Amarel?

We know they commit federal crimes at higher rates

Noted...

How many US citizens commit identity theft each year?

When you google the words "identity theft", illegal immigrants comes up on every outcome.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=0FhnXJfwCMSt0PEPn9axuAw&q=how+many+us+citizens+commit+identity+theft&oq=how+many+us+citizens+commit+identity+theft&gs l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3..33i299l3.110597.129501..131724...0.0..4.336.13754.0j30j36j2......0....1.......5..30i10j0i7i30j0i22i30j41j0j0i131j46i131j0i67j0i13j0i8i13i30j33i160j33i22i29i30.cjUqdTxs9H0

Why? I would venture to guess that actual citizens aren't as desperate to steal an identity because they have little reason or desperation to get one.

On further investigation, the Social Security Administration and New York Times report that approximately 75 percent of illegal aliens have fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers, which is a felony. The ACLU accepts this figure and uses it to show that illegal aliens pay payroll taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/illegal-immigrants-are-bolstering-social-security-with-billions.html?mtrref=undefined&gwh=9A4C9007D9ED29F5E76EB12D3C733CF2&gwt=pay

You claimed to be taking records of everybody's IP addresses. The site owner then told you that you could not be doing that because of the way the site handles traffic.

I also explained to you that someone can get it by sending you a link that pulls you from the protection of the site and onto their personal site.

You claimed to be a Cherokee Indian. You then proceeded to claim you lived on an Indian reservation in a state with no Indian reservations.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/84/6c/ 17846cabe11ed4d558b9788dd5b0f2ad.jpg

Not really. But there's a big difference between trafficking drugs across town vs social security fraud and identity theft.

IRS: 1.2 Million Illegal Aliens Committed Identity Theft in FY 2017

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/irs-12-million-illegal-aliens-committed- identity-theft-fy-2017

That alone is enough illegals to create their own large metropolis, and that's just the ones that got caught. Isn't that great? Let's get some booze and celebrate 1.2 million victimizations that could have been prevented and the millions more that haven't been caught yet. Perhaps one will steal mine or someone in my family's, and we can celebrate twice.

In other words, illegals are far more likely to commit crimes so egregious that the feds get involved...

Very comforting.

Let's take a peak, shall we?

"Federal crimes include mail fraud, aircraft hijacking, carjacking, kidnapping, bank robbery, child pornography, credit card fraud, identity theft, computer crimes, federal hate crimes, violations of the Federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), obscenity, tax evasion, counterfeiting, violations of the Espionage Act, violations of the Patriot Act, illegal wiretapping, art theft from a museum,[1] damaging or destroying public mailboxes, electoral fraud, and serious immigration offenses."

Federal agencies have been granted powers to investigate federal offenses, including the Bureau Firearms, Bereau of Explosives, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Internal Revenue Service, and the Secret Service."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FederalcrimeintheUnited_States

No, because guns are protected by the 2nd Amendment. Border jumping, illegal entry, overstaying Visas, orchestrated caravans that attack cops and military, etc are not protected by anything, including the law.

The only problem being that you can't gather shit while playing Skyrim, eh Nom? Without a system and a lot of help from others, your ass would die in a few days. I highly doubt you would enjoy a hunter gatherer, Skyrimless reality...

but the truth of the matter is that you are simply a liar, aren't you?

The truth is, you don't use your old accounts anymore because they were humiliated into dust in past debates. Care to discuss that buddy?

Looks like a pie of stupid hit you in the face this morning Nom.

Spare me your cringeworthy attempts to be witty, you fucking buffoon.

Nah. Raping you in debates gets me high.

You're the autistic version of Hitler.

Amy Hitler or your Socialist god?

Kids have to go to school.

didn't say kids don't have to go to school. How is it even possible for you to question my intelligence

Because you rejected wikipedia info, then in the next post...used wikipedia as a source. You also railed against capitalism, told us you were jobless, told us you had no bank account, then said you were retired...

in your first sentence, and then illustrate that you can't read English in your second?

I read English. I just need for you to start using it.

You are laughable. I just wish you understood how pointless your existence is.

Hmmm...ditto. You'll be dead in a few decades. Now what? Pray? Oopsie. I forgot Nom. I'm so, so sorry....

You will just be dead then. The end.

Mhm. Sanity to an American Conservative is homophobia

I couldn't care less that you or anyone else is gay. Milo Yianopoulos, Peter Thiel, and Dave Rubin are all gay. Bruce Jenner is transexual. I agree with them 95% + of the time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CaitlynJenner

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiloYiannopoulos

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeterThiel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DaveRubin

ball games

Yes. Some of us are male and have testicles...

and hanging blacks in their back yard.

Half of the best Conservative debators are black, and we had Ben Carson on our ballet for President. The libs had two white people.

This idiot just used another of his 400 user profiles to insist everybody thinks liberals are nutjobs.

Let's just check it out. Shall we?

List of Nom dupe accounts

ColonelFry

BurritoLunch

Carterusmbot

Blood

TheCreator

BobBarker

Hootie

SuperNom

Zombieguy87

TheFactsOfit

Impirum

YousifDuck1

Quantumhead

DarthSidious

Rusticus

DragonBorn

ArchonElite

ChiefToad

NumberNine

NumberFive

KyloRen

Warjin

TheSnake

Ramshutu

Sv3rige

Nomenclature

NumberOne

TheDevil

TheNotorious

Ctrlaltdel

Justicebaker

Justignoreme

Dreadnought

JoeTheJew

JoeBloggs

Rothschild

Mrcatsam

borisdecker 

TheNotorious

Deathwolf666

Jamesbody

AlMualim

grapesNcrepe

HyperComm5

Waylife

Freyr

AveSatanas

Factfanx

Funtits

Waylife

Saggyballs

Iameerah

Spartacus

Kalamazoo

ModusPonem

Rogerfederer

Gruffalo

Lizarrd

ChiefToad

WormNugget

Winterhold

Misery

JoseAquacate

Hootie

Looks like a pie of stupid hit you in the face this morning Nom. Kids have to go to school. The question from the dog was "should kids have to give up their phones before entering the classroom?" which has absolutely nothing to do with promoting or opposing the school system....

Actually, I used food stamps to stomp your "everyone is hungry in the U.S." narrative, which was obviously stupidity mating with even more stupidity and having an even stupider bastard baby of stupidity.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ What isgoodaboutcapitalism#arg957342

Then you rejected my Mussolini quotes from wikipedia, and then used wikipedia as your very next source, of which I laughed in your face.


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