How about we stop put them down and stop neutering and spaying all together. I'm for sure a animal lover and have spent my whole life being by there side nature will balance its self out trust me. We human try to balance out in the rivers but now we, don't know what to put in the rivers to eat the carp. Thanks to us I most catch carp, there is no real overpopulation of dogs and cats its just us not wanting the strays eating are garbage, live stock, being in are yards or in the streets, shoot if a crazy driver had her own way she would ban everyone off the streets but her, because even we don't like each other on the streets.
Please just say no to spaying and neutering, because there is a different operation just ask the vet office but it may cost like 10 dollar's more.
Things may happen but doesn't give us the right to alter there sex drive. There are other operations, think what would a human would get if they don't want to have baby's anymore, so the operation is very close to what humans get.
Please say no to spaying and neutering.
Sorry, but its hard to do things on a little ass phone.
We should just agree to disagree because untill I get a computer witch will not be for another mouth, we will just keep going around in circles untill than. Also it is hard to find data that people don't want to believe. Just because you can find good data on something doesn't mean its true.
Everybody can believe something doesn't mean its true, so how am I going to show you data anyway when no one believes it. Most high webs sites use simply logic and say its true, and why do we believe it because no ones going to call a scientist, a judge, or the government a lier. Those two animals are strays they just come by once in a bit and we just say there are animals so no one will pick them up off the street. Simply logic why do strays die so much is because we put them down.
I given you lots of explanations, if you say there is a overpopulation than how would that be when millions get put down and have a slim chance to mate and even than they don't survive the first winter, like you said it your self. I just gave you an explanations on why there is no over population.
I'm not confuse, I'm just saying its still wrong to treat them that differently.
That link goes to a page that at the top says magazine on it and all I see is opinions. The national level studys are many small study that is not fully accurate because you can't just do a small study and say this is a accurate ratio% of this many of this, because it can really be wrong.
No homeless person would have them selves neutered, its simply not realistic, specially when both human and dog can easily get food out of the garbage, shoot cats catch mice easly for food, there is still to many ways for both homeless and stray's to get food.
I'm not talking about them protecting them selves from being killed but from being bullied, over raked, humped by other dogs.
I'm talking out side, being chained up, how would you like being chained up like a bitch? Most pets are treated as the first to go, so tell me is that true caring or I like but if something comes up than or well.
If that's the name of it than why not just do that?
Well that's wrong. And animals deserve better, that's sad because they think its ok to do it to another species just because they can.
So you would rather be neutered, than have a chance to have some special fun in your life than that's you but most wouldn't. Like I said there is no overpopulation its a meth, that is spread because we are greedy and are not able to let them Rome free or eat out of are garbage can. This is also true about people who that there too many deer or wolves, but that's not true its just to many of us.
What the hell do you think people have to avoid, the same thing. Those kids in India cars, rapest's, starvation, disease, weather. I mean dam things happen in life. My friend next do has a dog that's stay out side all year long ever sense he was 3 and know he's 9, my my dad has a out side cat and she seems to do ok in the winter. Yes every once an a well I see a dead animal on a street but humans get killed my cars everyday, so does that mean we can't survive the outdoors or overpopulated, no!
No a kid from Africa would not rather be neutered and be treated like a kid his hole life. Being a pet is bad, the only reason why pets are happy with it is because they were breed, burn to be happy in that type of environment, but if they would to be set free they will soon not liking to go back in side or badly do want to be back in because they had a bad experience. The ones that don't want to come back it probably found someone to mate with or just the areas ok that they really don't care for being in doors.
Did you know spayed and neutered dogs and cats get bullied by none spayed and neutered dogs and cats, because the spayed and neutered dog's and cats don't have as much of a need to feel to protect themselves.
I would rather have a chance to mate live in a Bader environment, than live in a house were my rake is 0, neutered, be called names over and over, and chained up.
False, there's more dogs and cats that get put down than get killed out on the street. But they still can survive in urban area's.
There is truly another operation just ask the vet office, it for people like me to choose because I don't believe its right to alter a beings feelings, but my dog didn't get it, so I can't really remember it. It's not well know because it hasn't been available for has long as spaying and neutering has, and also people are to selfish to get this operation because another reason why people spay and neuter because they can't deal with the behavior of the unspayed and unneutered pet. So it does cost like 10 dollors more because this operation is not well funded and advertised.
I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this subject.
Your false, sorry. Because at first you basically said big problem now your just saying a problem. Maybe it can cause a problem to wild life but very little so its not a threat or is going to be at all.
We are a bigger threat to both dogs, cats and wild life, so lets neuter and spay are self's before we take it out on another being.
So do many children in Africa don't survive and I don't care if were higher in the food chain. I forgot what that operation is called but humans get it to.
Neutering and spaying is abuse because it will not end because there will always be unwanted animals. You can't just neuter and spay untill the population is under control but you got to keep doing it. Are you saying that just because we are higher than them means we don't have to take credit for are actions and thus bully them around.
Wild cats don't bite humans more than house cats, well unless you mess with them than you fucking deserve it.
They would not say that because humans would rather be kicked out of the house than be neutered plus be treated as lesser being, called baby names, be chained, so the more realistic thing they would say fine kick me out because your sure in the hell not neutering me.
House cats and dogs could survive out on the street. There is no excuse for this horrible act that is happening, please just say no to spaying and neutering, and just choose a different operation.
Why, because if I can't say no to him than he has a upper advantage thus he would be raping me.
The true meaning of zoophilia is not putting your wants before your partners. Like I said we must pick the most realistic thing and that means it would most likely not be forcing, and it could sometimes be misinterpreted but not most of the time.
Both zoophilia and animal has there advantages over each other.
Even all together its not overpopulated, but who said neutering and spaying is the only option. There's another way to prevent them from having babys and it wouldn't effect there sexual behavior at all and it will not remove any body parts from the animal.
Like I said is it there fault?
House hold cats attack humans so, and most dog and cat diseases doesn't effect us. Should we start neutering and spaying homeless people too?
Neutering and spaying is like rape so its bad and we shouldn't do it. Nobody would be ok with you removing, there balls or lessoning the desire to have sex. Most likely if a animal could talk it would say no to neutering and spaying.
Who fault was that?, it was are fault all the cross breeding and other thing's like that caused it. And honestly 70 million is a healthy population amount, unlike us over 400 million humans in the U.S. but if you think about it the homeless rate would be 1 homeless person on every street.
We don't need a big population to survive because were smarter but cats, dogs, and other animals need a very big population to survive.
There a place in Britain where there is like 20 to 30 cats on each street but guess what nobody cares there because it's not a problem. America thinks it would become a problem but it wouldn't truly. Look up (3 mouth cat research behavior study).
Dogs and cats are not a problem to wildlife, because it's humans that are a problem to wildlife. If anything we could says kids in Africa are a problem because millions of them die a year, because of hunger or disease, so should we just start neutering and spaying them?
So does that mean the animals have to pay the price.
Dogs and cats can survive on there own, it just that humans don't want them in are garbage or a stray dog attacking a person. We put them down for nothing, humans get special care but no animals just need a shot or they just don't have space to put them, and bam to death row. There's more humans than dogs and cats put together, there is for sure no over population of cats and dogs.
Yes the RSPCA should because people like me gives them money to, yes I send money but doesn't mean I like everything they do.
Coercion is like a advantage, would you agree if one partner had a advantage than would it be wrong.
If one can't say no to the other than it must be an advantage even if its love?
Or if both beings have the same amount of advantages over each other than it would be ok?
I have studied a lot on body language, I also was part of a research team studying wild dogs in Africa for 2 years.
Others may not but I consider body language a form of consent, humans don't always ask for sex by voice but though watching there partner body language they can understand what mood is in or almost anything.
We can't fully understand what there thinking but you need to pick what's the more realistic thing that there thinking is. It's most likely that he knows what the sock means because if not why would he keep bringing the same sock, because there are other socks in the house but he very very rarely brings me those socks.
Honestly, if, and I mean if it is rape than who's being raped, because I may be smarter but he has a advantage because I'm dispirit and loayal. To me, he is my alpha that I let him get away with a lot of things.
But in a way it would be also bad if these two would break up it because of jail time or something, then the one who is in deeply love could probably go into deep depression.
Than wouldn't that be bad?
It may be illegal but it can't fully be wrong because honestly it sounds like in the end it doesn't matter to the raped partner.
Most of the time he brings me this sock in the bed room and I know what sock is what because its one black sock. He learned how to use it because he got the idea of sock = sex because I would always put it on him at the beginning of are partnership because when he mounts me, his claws would hurt but now in are partnership I kinda like the pain his claws do to me when he mounts me.
Yes, but if they can't hear and talk what than. My partner brings me a special sock in the bed room to let me know or sometimes he can't help it if he can't get to them so he just starts getting excited and starts jumping on me and just goes for it. I do my best to keep all the doors open so he can use the sock.
I feel like he tries to ask most of the time but like I said he doesn't always ask I think its because I always allow him to do it to me, so in his mind he doesn't always understand my body language when I don't movie or push him away.
My dog is happy, because he has blue food, a tempered pedic bed 🏨 that fits to his liking, me which is his bitch, a big yard, big house, lots of trees to pee on, tv I put it on dog tv for him, walks, we go to the beach to swim.
Please tell me what's so wrong with this?
Hardly, if you know what to look for. I think body language should be a way of legal consent, because how than do we let people that can't talk or hear or even see have sex?
Humans that can only use sign language can have sex.
Some people may say animals don't really even give consent to another animal.
