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Are you proud to be called liberal?
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Can you judge the things Prophet Muhammed said in the Quran, what ex Muslims say about the religion, and what you see and hear from Islamic sermons all across youtube? Can you see what is happening all across Europe and say "I don't want that anywhere near me, my loved ones and my children"? Side: no
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Sure, but that's only a small part of the picture. Most Muslims are not doing those things. Of course with anyone who is actually encouraging attacks I would support charges against them. What I don't want to do is act in a way which drives more people towards following the extremists. Side: yes
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1)Based on that logic, would you say that the crazy and violent responses to Trump push his supporters further into the extreme? 2)If Muslims can be pushed so easily into the desire and dogma to destroy us, doesn't that show a fudamental flaw in the religion or culture that is dangerous to us? Side: no
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Yes I would say that violence towards Trump supporters is likely to make them more extreme. However, Trump is a relatively new political phenomenon and I think that a persons religion is likely to get closer to the core of who they are as a person. When you combine this with violent history of the middle east, you are looking at a situation where there is more of a risk of dangerous conflict, particularly when people begin to discriminate against whole groups. Side: yes
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Do you realize that the Quran openly commands Muslims to discriminate against other groups based on religion and ethinicity? The Quran could be summed up as hate speech towards Jews, Christians and Atheists. That's why "coexist" is a pipedream. If not for Islam, that probably would be happening quite nicely now. Pre 9/11, the west looked like a utopian dream of mixed cultures and races coexisting happily. Post 9/11 it became a west divided by religion and skin color. Side: yes
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I do, and I think it was mindless. Do you know how many Muslims kill Muslims today and how much death and destruction the Islamic religion has caused pre- United States? These people have been killing each other and their neighbors for 1,400 years. How do you think they took over the Middle East and North Africa? Conquest. The Europeans had to start the Crusades to not be genocided off of the face of the Earth to the West, and the Chinese had to fight them off to the East in their own version of the Crusades. Nothing's changed other than that we got involved not knowing that these people's religion is insane. Yes liberal globalism is insane and needs to stop. Side: yes
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I'm glad you've pointed out that most of the victims of extremist attacks are Muslims. But if you want to talk about wars throughout history, you're giving the Muslims too much credit. Our ancestors have been busy destroying each other since ancient times. We got involved to suit our own interests, and made a big mess of things in the process. I'm not bothered about globalism but liberal values are still important for me. Side: yes
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But if you want to talk about wars throughout history, you're giving the Muslims too much credit. They took over the entire Middle East and North Africa by conquest and were headed into China and Europe before running out of steam and/or easy victims. http://www.islam101.com/images/MuslimDistributionmap.jpg The amount of territory that is Islamic is far bigger than Europe, and it isn't close, and now they are pouring into Europe. This doesn't end well for Europe. Muslims breed much faster, have an entire region to themselves, are militant in spreading their religion, and are coming into the West in droves. Side: no
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The claim was that I was giving the Muslims too much credit concerning war and conquest. Which you are, by selectively singling them out of a long history of violent conquest, much of which was committed by your own religion. The problem is not that you imply Muslims are violent. The problem is that you imply only Muslims are violent. Side: yes
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Which you are, by selectively singling them out of a long history of violent conquest, much of which was committed by your own religion. 1)They're entire religion is based on conquest according to the Quran itself. And they have been violently using conquest for 1,400 years. It isn't new. You are welcome to present us anything said by Christ that is troubling you. 2)If Christianity does crazy things, that would prove Jesus's predictions correct. Jesus and the Bible never labeled his followers as "Christians". It was actually a term used by the Romans to mock Christ's followers. The New Testament depicts a world corrupted fully by the devil, including things disguised under the guise of Christ. 3)I don't imply who is or isn't violent. I only state the stats on Islamic terrorism last year and what the Quran actually says. I also do not promote bringing in immigrants that are Christians or any other immigrants. Side: no
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I have no idea how I'd feel if I had grown up with Islam. I'd probably think this way... Side: yes
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Sure, but that's only a small part of the picture. Most Muslims are not doing those things. Muruna and Taqiya. It's a part of their religion. Side: no
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This is classic right wing anti-Islam material No, it's a part of Islamic eschatology. In this link, Muslims discuss it on their own site. https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/al-taqiyya-dissimulation-part-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-ySEvhfFI There are also studies that suggest that Muslims don't feel stressed by lying to Western police, and can easily pass lie detector tests, because in Islam, that's a good thing in their theology and culture, and not something to feel ashamed or stressed about. If the lie detector has no clue, I see no reason that you would. If someone's lying is pathological, you'd probably have no clue they were lying, because they either believe the lie or have no conscience about lying to infidels. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2898/ Side: no
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Its part of the right ring interpretation of Islam. I don't doubt that it applies to extremists but the majority of Muslims do not take an extremist interpretation. Lying is not necessarily wrong in of its self. Lying to help carry out an attack is another matter. Again most Muslims don't do this. If a Muslim was to sit down with me and discuss the significance of their faith, I would be able to determine considerably more than a lie detector test could. Side: yes
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Based on several things. Firstly, the many Muslims who speak out against extremism. Secondly, the way that Muslims have banded together to aid the victims of attacks. Thirdly, the police investigations into extremist cells reveal localised groups of radical individuals with connections to ISIS and the Syrian civil war. They do not indicate participation from the wider Muslim community. Side: yes
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Lots of Muslims are speaking out. However, this will not be present in right wing media because it does not follow the favoured discourse. You think all the Muslims who are having their mosques attacked and destroyed for not following extremist ideology would not speak out against this? Or is this all part of an elaborate lie? Anything a Muslim does is deception to you, this is why you cannot be trusted as a reliable source. Side: yes
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Muslims literally believe they are the beast system from the book of Revelation in the Christian New Testament. Better known as the followers of the Antichrist. Whether you believe in these religions or not, it should concern you. There is a reason that 666 and the Antichrist are reviled in Western culture and in our movies as pure evil, and Islam thinks they are exactly that. All Muslims literally look for the final caliphate where they make all non Muslims on Earth submit to Islam by force, or die by beheading. http:// http://www.prophetpbuh.com/wp-content/ Side: no
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Secondly, the way that Muslims have banded together to aid the victims of attacks. There are always exceptions. There were Nazis who helped Jews and did the right thing. The Nazis were still extremely dangerous, and they didn't even have a god telling them to do these things. Side: no
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If a Muslim was to sit down with me and discuss the significance of their faith, I would be able to determine considerably more than a lie detector test could. Lie detectors catch things that cops never do all of the time, and they people who are trained to catch people in lies. Side: no
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Lie detectors catch things that cops never do all of the time You are an unfathomable hypocrite. Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it Side: yes
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Its part of the right ring interpretation of Islam There is no left wing interpretation of Islam. I mean really? "Moderates" still cover their female's heads, avoid certain foods, and bow to Mecca to pray 5 times a day. The moderates of Islam are further right than the most extreme Christians. Side: no
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BREAKING: Trump announces military action against North Korea!!! Side: no
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You are proud like the slave owners who were proud to support the right's of people to own slaves. You support the right of women to kill even viable babies! If you are proud of that, you are as sick and lost as the slave owners. They recognised no rights to black people and Liberals like you recognise no rights to even viable babies. SICK SELFISH INHUMANITY! Side: no
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You have not been on my auto ban list, but probably soon will be. I have no respect for people who support killing even viable unborn babies. Sorry. Do you have respect for KKK members? What you support when voting for Democrats is worse than today's KKK members. Even they do not support killing Black people. I ackowledged what you had to say, and I find it inhuman to support killing viable babies with your vote or future vote. Side: no
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Well, that's too bad. You ban people for having an inferior opinion, and you have no respect for other people. You have shown that in your recent posts, calling me a KKK member, a slave owner, and an overall horrible person. I'm hurt. The VERY VERY VERY least you can do is respect other people, if not their opinions. You don't have to say it, just stop auto banning them for disagreeing with you. It's obnoxious, and shows that you're a very close-minded individual. I have no choice but to ban you. I'm giving you ONE more chance. ONE. You have shown that you don't think, you just do. You say things that come to mind without thinking about them for more than a brief moment, which is why I have no respect for you anymore, because you have shown that you have poor decision making skills. Side: yes
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I never called you a KKK member. Can you comprehend the english language. I was comparing the arguments of abortion to those of slavery and KKK members. I ban people for being deceptive. The only reason you have yet to be banned is because you are at the moment not being overly deceptive.I think it is more ignorance. How old are you? Side: no
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I was comparing the arguments of abortion to those of slavery and KKK members. Yes, because terminating an unwanted pregnancy quite clearly is the same thing as dressing in a sheet and hanging blacks from trees. I'm glad we have your notoriously rational mind here to guide us this evening. Side: yes
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Actually, killing a defenseless viable baby is worse than anything else on this planet. Listen to the wording of inhuman selfish fools. When it is someone else doing the killing, it is described as hanging Blacks from trees. When it is the Left supporting the killing, it is merely terminating an unwanted pregnancy. I guess the KKK should have been better at their fake news and deplomacy. They should have called their lynchings as terminating an unwanted contract between a plantation owner and their employee. Do you fools even believe the garbage you spew? Side: no
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Actually, killing a defenseless viable baby is worse than anything else on this planet A fetus is no more a baby than a pensioner is a child. You should get it through your mentally ill head that there are much worse things in the world than a swift death. Your plan, where the "defenceless, viable baby" gets born HIV positive and addicted to crack, is no less cruel (and arguably a lot more so) than an abortion, even in your bizarre fantasy universe where a fetus is fully conscious and self-aware. Side: yes
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No, it would not be ignorant to say I am implying you are as bad as a KKK member, because I am implying that. The victims of the KKK are Black people and te victims of Leftwing people are even viable unborn babies. You are not a KKK member and do not hate Black people, but like the KKK, you have cheapened the value of life for another group of people.... unborn human lives. Your inhumanity is more of a self serving nature whereby the conveinence of life supercedes an innocent human life. Both the KKK and pro abortion people have justified their brutality against others. The excuses sound very similar. There were people during the time of slavery who said I would not personally own a slave, but would not deny another person's right to own a slave. They would say they are personally opposed to slavery, but it's the law of the land. They would say that these slaves are poor and without plantation owners would have very hard lives. They would say who are you to tell me what I can do with my own slave. Sound familiar when listening to pro choice rhetoric? Side: no
Well, what if I said the same thing about conservative views on gay marriage? Individual religious beliefs cannot dictate who someone can love. Conservative Christians are not conscious of the fact that the first amendment grants the right to free exercise of religion. They also do not seem to be conscious that women are in charge of their own bodies and have a right to an abortion guaranteed by the ninth amendment. Side: no
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