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Since this is true, it's true Bender became godlike, which is better than Optimus. Since it was because he was overclocked, it's possible for him to do it again.
Since we are using the present tense, "is better", for the question, previous experiences do not apply to this current situation. Therefore, the fact that Bender was God is unimportant unless he is God in the present.
Bender may have been a god of his tiny civilization at one point, but what matters isn't the title of "God" but rather what that entails. If we look at God as a savior, then clearly Optimus Prime is much better at the job. While Bender tries and ultimately fails to save his people, Optimus Prime saves humanity on more than one occasion.
Bender bends some prison bars in the pilot episode. He also bends large steel girders in "Bendless Love". There are a number of other examples; the name is not a coincidence.
There is no evidence to indicate OP is stronger than Bender. Bender consistently bends large objects which appear far beyond the strength of his comparatively diminutive form. OP appears to possess only the strength expected from his significantly larger stature.
Well while Bender is probably a bit of a drunk (or something idk), he is willing to do more shit than Optimus Prime ever would be willing to do. So that alone means Bender would be able to employ strategies to beat the Lawful Dumb Optimus.
This is a statement of fact, not an argument. What's bad about turning into a truck? Sounds like a useful skill. You wouldn't have to make car payments because you ARE the car.
Optimus Prime isn't limited in his ability to change int other vehicles. Just because he chooses to be a truck doesn't mean he can't be something else. Transformers are capable of scanning other vehicles and transforming into those as well.
Bender, when overclocked, went through a personal technological singularity, which eventually culminated in an existential singularity wherein he used the working of the universe itself as part of his consciousness. All of which took place over a matter of days. So, that's pretty cool.
What is this nerd trash? Did you learn that at nerd school, which is for nerds? Optimus has a verified GTL Professional license. Bender doesn't have that.
Bender is better, and doesn't need any kind of magical metal to be so.
Seriously, whats up with that, especially in the recent transformers movies? I don't buy a punch from another transformer causing damage when a salvo of shaped-charge antitank missiles doesn't. Even if the material is significantly stronger, if hellfires won't hurt it there's no way a punch will. Energy is energy, and even soft materials such as lead can cause a lot of damage to harder structures simply by virtue of their kinetic energy.
have you compared the amount of energy produced between such a missile and a transformer's punch? and suppose some amount of energon travels with each punch and contributes enough energy to cause the damage, assuming the punch itself really isn't enough to damage another transformer. there may be underlying forces at work that people cannot plainly see.
Not as such, but we can look at the overall effect of such; Consider Newton's Third Law. If a transformers punch were to deliver energy equal to a hellfire missile, then that same amount of energy would transfer to the ground via the transformers feet when standing on the ground, or significantly impact the vector and velocity in a midair battle. While being knocked around is visible in the air, we aren't seeing massive impact craters forming beneath the transformers feet after every blow.
The energon itself would be the 'magic' in the 'magic metal' that I simply don't buy. I'll still bite though; as the source of the transformers life, Energon would appear to be a source of electricity, or some equivalent thereof. Not kinetic energy, not heat, and not unlimited. Are you seriously suggesting that the transformers expend a portion of their own 'life force' as it were with every punch- above and beyond what is already expending simply to move the mass? Are they converting it to heat? Doesn't appear that way. Are they using it like a 'tazer' of sorts to disrupt the other transformer? I could buy this as its contribution to the damage, but that doesn't address the physical damage; electricity is capable of heating metal and causing it to break, shatter, and burst, but that energy would need to first travel through (and damage!) some portion of the punching transformer, and given that the hand has a smaller volume than, say, the torso, I'd expect sufficient energy to damage the torso in this way would break the punching transformers arm apart first. If it's converting to kinetic energy, again, Newton's third law- we'd see large impact craters forming at the transformers feet with every blow.
Some things are fine, and we accept them with willing suspension of disbelief. Energy shields, structural integrity fields, whatever. But when someone tries to use physics and metallurgy instead of some hand-waved tech, and then gets it wrong, it's far more jarring in my opinion than simply accepting a nonexistent technology. They didn't have to do it that way- we're already suspending our disbelief for the transformers themselves...
Bender was murdered by his ex-girlfriend Lynn, came back as a ghost, and had the ability to possess machines. Optimus Prime could not come back as a ghost for the amount of times he died (at least 10) and would definitely get possesed by Bender. Therefore Bender is better...
Some arguments are just to weak to waste time with.The one insulting another because of a "down-vote" that has no actual recurring affect whatsoever(besides making you feel bad, poor baby), is the pathetic one.
Somehow bender can eat and drink which would be pretty cool for a robot to be able to do that as often and as much as you want as long as he can enjoy it.
This argument would imply that Bender being an extrovert make him better than OP betting an introvert. That is insulting to introverts, being an extrovert doesn't make you better or worse.
I approve this message. I believe that Bender is a more realistic AI in that he incorporates both some of the best and worst human traits in his personality. This makes anything he does seem more believable than Optimus Prime's constant goody two shoes act.
Cal Poly professor Clint Staley's homework grading system is Bender. Who would want to hand in homework to Optimus Prime? He's always sober. I would never get a good grade.
Bender is well known in csc department because Dr. Staley uses it as an automatic grader. Bender barely makes mistake and it has extremely reliable result
Bender needs beer to live, while Optimus Prime needs Energon to live. However, Optimus Prime has to resort to violence against Megatron and his comrades in order to live, while Bender can happily drink with anybody when there is plenty of alcoholic drinks available. Therefore, violence isn't the answer, and neither is Optimus Prime.
Bender is a lot more entertaining to watch than Optimus Prime. Yes, Optimus Prime is a "better" creature, but he's not as fun. What if he squashes you on a night out?
If we define "better" as "more human" I would have to say Bender is better because he better approximates the selfishness, cruelty, mischievousness, and general disregard for others that is so common in humanity. The heroic altruism of Optimus Prime, while commendable, is not typical of human behavior.
The fact that Bender drinks, wants to drink, needs to drink, or feels the need to drink implies a dependency on the act of drinking. If drinking was taking away, Bender would not be better, since one of his dependencies would be left unsatisfied. The fact that a dependency exists makes Bender not better, thus the fact that he is better at drinking is null.
Having the ability to hold humans as an enemy is not a plus. Having more enemies, logically, only leads to worse outcomes. Since Bender can consider humans as enemies, this actually hurts his potential of being better.
According to the Wikipedia page on Bender, Bender rarely shows sympathy to others. Optimus Prime might not show much emotion, but at least he's saved many lives.
Bender can live without a body (one episode, Bender and his friends went back in time, and his head accidentally fell off when they went back to their time in the future. When they went back to get his head, he was still alive, and said he was "sleeping"). Optimus Prime can not survive without his body.
Employment doesn't signify you are better than someone. Some employed people hold meaningless jobs or perform very poorly in their position. Some unemployed people are very dedicated and hard-working in some other cause, such as saving the earth from decepticons. The work you do is more meaningful than the title.
Bender has a comical tone to his voice which brings laughter and amusement to those around him. Optimus Prime has a disturbingly deep and raucous voice, and talks very slow, causing confusion and discomfort.
Being a tiny little robot doesn't make Bender worse. When Bender was able to make little Benders that also could make even smaller Benders the ridiculous potential of a tiny beer fueled reproducing robot was shown.
Optimus Prime works to help and protect us humans, and thus is better. According to Wikipedia: "[Optimus Prime] is depicted as a brave, powerful, wise and compassionate leader who puts his talent to use improving the universe around him. Optimus is portrayed as having a strong sense of justice and righteousness and has dedicated himself to the protection of all life, particularly the inhabitants of Earth."
When it comes down to it, people will want someone who they can count on in times of need. Optimus Prime provides this safety while Bender is just there for humor.
No there is not I'm saying that my opinion is that Optimus is all-in-all better than bender because of the reasons I have given. Others may not think so but that is my evidence and opinion.
Optimus Prime has learned to respect with humans even when he could destroy them. Bender is discriminatory against humans even though they could destroy him.
The problem with having an arm-sword is that once the arm is gone, the sword is gone. Bender on the other hand is able to bend metals and do interesting things with them, so he could potentially lose a sword and just make new swords to excess.
His entire name is incredible. "Optimus", as in the optimal robot, and "Prime", as in at the peak of ability. Nothing beats that, especially not a poorly named beercan of a robot.
Bender is an effective and fair assignment grader that saves time for everyone :) the difficulty in 357 is the stringent requirements for each project, which Bender remorsefully but stoically enforces.
Last winter quarter it took down unix 2. It also sent out incorrect pass/failed emails, as well as reasons. This effected a lot of students stress levels and made people unhappy.
(Though i admit killing unix 2 does give bender a kill count higher then optimus in real life)
Optimus Prime has had more experience through the many years he has lived and also the amount of planets hes been on. In a battle of wits, Optimus Prime will surely come out on top.
Optimus Prime is a brave, powerful, wise and compassionate leader who puts his talent to use improving the universe around him. Bender is a drunk who hates humans.
Optimus Prime first came into creation in 1984 while the first appearance of Bender was in 1999. Thus, if we are to respect our elders, Optimus Prime should be deemed better.
Optimus Prime is the cowboy that comes in and saves the day even when it doesn't help him personally. He's the robotic hero we need, not the one we deserve.
Optimus has this sort of giant flame sword that looks really awesome, while bender has beer. While many say the beer would be pretty sweet, flameswords are better.
How can you relate to optimus? He's from a different world and has a humongous responsibility to take care of. Bender, on the other hand, is human sized and enjoys and goes through the same day to day activities as you do.
I hardly see how Optimus Prime being a gas guzzling robot who is causing global warming to be a good argument that he is better. I would counter and say that because of Bender's small form factor, he is more Green and better for the environment. Therefore going Bender saves lives, and trees.
Optimus Prime cares about the human race and is willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of humanity. Bender wouldn't do that...he's too much like a human.
This isn't strictly true. Bender's original engineering parameters are to "bend" things. When he does bend things, he does a damn good job of it. In addition, he is capable of exceeding this basic engineering requirements by learning and adapting to his environment.
Optimus Prime is a leader, a hero, and much more compassionate than Bender. Optimus Prime tries to help and protect human beings, while Bender just tries to be annoying.
Optimus primes strength and intelligence are superior to that of bender. Optimus prime is more of a role model to the other autobots where as Bender is an immature character made only to humor the audience
While there is no denying that Bender does have some useful functions (he can bend things, he provides some level of humor), Optimus Prime can perform many other more useful functions like saving the world, transporting large quantities of goods IN HIMSELF, be a leader and a role-model, and can create or destroy other autonomous life-forms with the piece of the allspark he carries.
Optimus Prime is much better than bender, because he is trying to save the world and works in a team of like minded robots to do so. He is also not man made and comes from another world, hence no human errors/mistakes.
i feel like there is a ton of extra damage sometimes cause by the autobots. while bender could probably be as destructive, he certainly isn't in his day to day life.
He wouldn't necessarily crush him. It depends who is made of a stronger material. A needle is much smaller than you, but if you step on it you will get stabbed, you will not crush it.
You are referring to the wrong Bender. The bender to which this thread is referring to is the one from Futurama, not the grading system written by Dr. Clint Staley.
Optimus Prime has two useful forms: a semi-truck, which can haul all sorts of necessary goods, and an enormously strong humanoid, which helps fend off interplanetary attacks. Bender only has one form, and it isn't very helpful.
Have you seen his stats? He is a basically a god in semi-truck form. Besides, you can hang out with him and be pretty secure in the knowledge that he won't try to steal your wallet.
Bender prefers to make money and drink beer with his time. While this is normal for most people, Optimus Prime actually travels through time and does his best to prevent evil forces from taking over earth
