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If every U.S. President was a "piece of shit", THIS one is a "pile of shit"! If you don't like it here GO! (Back to space, preferably :-). You must be one of the Koch's libertarians that think we don't need rules and everything should be free for those who can get it, and that they should be free to use "it" without ANY government oversight. When you leave, take your chaos with you! :-(
An incredibly stupid, cliche statement. What makes you think I like any country at all? I don't fyi.
You must be one of the Koch's libertarians
Why would you assume that? Maybe I'm a fascist, maybe I'm a Marxist, maybe I'm an anarcho-primitivist. There are dozens of ideologies other than the one you assumed I must be. Dozens of ideologies that are opposed to plutocracy and the American government system. Your hasty and presumptuous assumption is proof of your narrow mind.
Yes, and I have been agitated, by said lockdown. The only reason i don't riot, is because i don't want my Bibles taken from my person. The worst thing that happened to me, i was holding a Gideon Bible, during the incident.
Yes, and I have been agitated, by said lockdown. The only reason i don't riot, is because i don't want my Bibles taken from my person. The worst thing that happened to me, i was holding a Gideon Bible, during the incident.
Actually it is you that is constantly disrespectful. I ask you a question, I'm a troll - post a joke I must be a troll, agree with you, disagree with you, troll, troll, troll...
Since you can't spell, can't type, can't take a joke, and can't debate - perhaps you can focus less on telling people to be nice or leaving you alone and try it yourself since it is literally the only thing you possibly have left.
It's not stupid. if you hate a country, you are free to leave
It's a stupid response in the context of this debate.
person one: "The US government sucks and all of it's leaders were pieces of shit"
person two: "Oh yeah, well I'm not going to even dispute that point. I'm just going to tell you to leave a country if you don't like it. Omg your argument just got so rekt by not even being addressed."
It's a stupid response in the context of this debate.
The context of your debate is stupid. You've made a wild assertion about dozens of people you don't even know, backed it up with nothing, and are now calling other people stupid for having a problem with it.
assuming "every president in US history was a piece of shit".
It's not an assumption. Every president from Washington right down to Trump was human waste. If you disagree it's a matter of lacking education on the subject. Even the best presidents were ultimately the puppets of the mega-rich "elite".
Obviously it is an assumption. Most of these people died before you were even born, you never knew them personally, and you are just saying things for shock value because you are a lonely, immature little arse.
Claiming that any US president was ever a good person is not much different from claiming a mafia leader is a good person. The reason why my claim is controversial and the mafia one would not be is because the government is the mafia that has been brainwashing people since they were born to think it is good.
Claiming that any US president was ever a good person is not much different from claiming a mafia leader is a good person.
It was a US president who gave women the right to vote, who ended slavery, who implemented the social welfare state, and who tried to warn society about the military industrial complex.
You are an idiot without any idea what you are talking about.
Fuck off you subhuman object. All the presidents who did those things were pieces of shit in their own way. Being a piece of shit doesn't mean you never do anything good. How about this? I will come to your house, murder you, rape your grandmother, and then feed your cat and bring it to a loving home afterward. Does that make me not a piece of shit? Fuck off imbecile.
You don't like any country at all? Same advice, Go. Maybe volunteer for Trumps "Space Force" and colonize Mars. Anyway, YOU are calling ME incredibly stupid?
If you don't like the American system, where on Earth will you find that you can be happy …. Antarctica? A country without a government cannot defend itself, cannot educate itself, cannot have a decent health care system … well, you likely don't like any of them either. Your mind isn't narrow …. it's BLOWN. :-)
A country without a government cannot defend itself, cannot educate itself, cannot have a decent health care system
In fairness none of that is true. You might as well say that without a government people can't wipe their own arses. There'd be an equal amount of truth to it.
In fairness none of that is true. You might as well say that without a government people can't wipe their own arses. There'd be an equal amount of truth to it.
If you would apply this level of intellectual honesty in all cases, then you would be calling Al a retard instead of calling me names all the time. Do you not realize how little difference there is between him and a conservative when you really think about his stupid delusional positivity about what America's system is?
Yes, an intelligent person (me) is calling an idiot (you) stupid because you have a cringe-worthy sugar coated view of what America is. Any example you would probably give me of a "good" president appeases you with small things while over 90% of what they do serves nothing but the establishment. Take Obama for example, he carried on the work of George Bush with stunning commitment and with only minor differences in his approach, yet idiots like you think he was much better don't you? That's because of the small, narrow little thought-box you were conditioned to live in where anything other than centrism is extremism. You don't realize how similar all these people are and that they are all the same thing (plutocratic puppets) because you are the type of person who thinks Obama is on the left and Bernie Sanders is a full-blown socialist.
f you don't like the American system
Then you might be intelligent. If you do like it, you are a gullible fucktard.
A country without a government cannot defend itself, cannot educate itself, cannot have a decent health care system … well, you likely don't like any of them either.
You don't know anything about what is likely to be true about me. You think a Fascist Technocrat is an Anarchist who hates education despite being an intellectual elitist.
well, you likely don't like any of them either. Your mind isn't narrow …. it's BLOWN. :-)
My mind is blown by how sugar coated your view of the United States Of Economic Terrorism is.
I have explained this to you a million times, labeling facts as opinions and using that as an excuse to ignore them is not an argument. You are a complete waste of time because you never actually argue a point, you simply state opinions and label things as opinions.
