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Illegal Prostitution Legal Prostitution
Debate Score:83
Arguments:62
Total Votes:90
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 Illegal Prostitution (17)
 
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Legalizing Prostitution

UndecidedDo you want prostitution to be legal? How would you feel if you had a spouse, buying prostitutes but not loving you? OR How would you feel if you got an std from these prostitutes if the were legal and couldn't sue them? How would you feel?

Illegal Prostitution

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Legal Prostitution

Side Score: 65
1 point

i agree that making prostitution legal is one way to stop this vice but what you ignored is the kind of future we are providing for our daughters. women who fell in such a trap, who started prostituting due to any reason find it easier but those who were forced to do by rape or drugging can fight for their rights in court, but legalising you know then civil suits will become joke and we would be hearing in court like "your honor, it was no rape but a fair transaction where after dissatisfaction from the money which she had been promised to pay she filed a rape case on my client" and you know there comes the real embarrassment on women rights.

Side: Illegal Prostitution
protazoa(427) Disputed
2 points

Every culture documented by historians had prostitutes. Obviously, making prostitution illegal does not make it go away. What the illegality of prostitution DOES do is force prostitutes to

1) subject themselves to pimps to protect them from the government

2) prevent them from taking legal action against any offenders who do attack them

3) prevent them from building social or economic status.

The first two I feel are self explanatory. The third one may be objected to, so allow me to explain.

Sex workers, always present in human society, have not always had the same social status. For instance, in Mesopotamia, prostitutes were considered holy. Priestesses of the love god, they were entirely in control of their lives. In ancient Greece, many prostitutes were influential, independent women despite living in a time was almost entirely patriarchal.During the Renaissance, courtiers (prostitutes) were some of the most influential members of of the royal court.

In fact, prostitution really only became frowned upon after the outbreak of syphilis in Europe

And this view still holds: in modern times, prostitutes are considered to be part of the lower society, despite the extraordinary sums that some politicians pay for their services.

The difference between these two eras (besides STDs) is not only legality, but opinion. Being a prostitute was considered a profession by the Sumerians; yet in this discussion the only prostitutes being discussed are those with 'no other option' who were 'forced into it'.

Who is to say that being a prostitute is any less of a profession than that of a masseuse? When prostitution leaves the shadows of societies' sewage and becomes legitimate business, prostitutes will NOT be as abused, nor as fearful for their life and dignity.

Even the police recognize a difference between business prostitution and street prostitution, often ignoring "escort services" that are generally known to be prostitution businesses while actively stopping street prostitution

Supporting Evidence: escort services (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Legal Prostitution
JohnGalt1(10) Disputed
1 point

A woman who chooses to turn tricks for a living regardless of circumstance is causing their own embarrassment. If prostitution was legal, than I would suggest that any patron of these services would insist on a contract to prevent any false allegations against them. That being said, what do you suppose its like for a woman nowadays who may be in that "profession" who happens to undergo a fair amount of abuse or rape for that matter. In order to prosecute the offender she would have to admit to breaking the law herself, which I'm sure leads to many cases not being filed. In essence the so-called crime of prostitution is a victimless crime. It is conducted by the mutual understanding and agreement of two consenting adults. Keeping prostitution illegal just creates more criminal in a system of overpopulated prisons where the REAL offenders need to be kept.

In the circumstance regarding forced prostitution, I would say that is not prostitution at all but rape. If a woman has a drug habit and she whores herself to get her fix than she is still a consenting adult, just for horrible reasons.

Also, just because it may be legal to do something, you are by no means compelled to do it. I find the business just as ugly as you do, but I don't believe the government should be able to dictate it.

Side: Legal Prostitution
-1 points

Yes, We already hurt the women in this nation enough but to allow prostitution would be insane

Side: Illegal Prostitution
zombee(1024) Disputed
3 points

Nobody should be forced into prostitution, but two adults should be allowed to have sex for whatever reason they want.

Side: Legal Prostitution
ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
1 point

I really don't see how it is insane, and by the way men can be prostitutes as well. I don't know your gender but I'm assuming male from the way you state "We".

What right has a man to decide a womens fate, women are not little fragile eggs that need protecting on every turn. They and their male counterparts in the sex trade should be allowed to decide for themselves, and should have the right to work in a safe environment as do other workers in more "morally" accepted jobs.

Where do you stand on those that work within the legal sex trade, ie Porn actors, Lap-dancers, Dominatrices etc. Is it just the penetration that you have a problem with, would a hand or blow job be acceptable. I mean it is happening anyway it wont stop, it's not called the oldest profession in the world for no reason. Why not make it legal and let these people get on with their lives.

Side: Legal Prostitution
1 point

I think it should remain illegal. Firstly, we should made other alternatives avaliable to these women who are engaged in prostitution to earn a daily meal. Secondly, what kind of parental or moral exmaple would they be setting for their children? Thirdly, many women who engage in prostitution gets in contact with the worng set of people who are drug dealers or dangerous criminals which can be dangerous for them. I strongly believe we should consider other alternatives.

Side: Illegal Prostitution
ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
1 point

I think it should be made illegal.

For the most part it is.

we should made other alternatives avaliable to these women who are engaged in prostitution to earn a daily meal.

Do you think that prostitutes are only thus to earn their food? Many prostitutes earn a lot of money, and live lavish lifestyles. It is the ones on the street that are just getting by, owing to the control exerted on them by Pimps. For a good looking girl with a nice body prostitution can be a way to earn fast and easy cash as escorts.

Secondly, what kind of parental or moral example would they be setting for their children?

I'd say a much better one than is currently being provided. It would be far better for a child if their mother was legally employed and not the cheap meat product that society at large deems them to be.

Thirdly, many women who engage in prostitution gets in contact with the worng set of people who are drug dealers or dangerous criminals which can be dangerous for them.

This to me sounds like an argument for the other side.

It is quite evident from the posts on this debate that most people only consider women in a prostitution argument, men are just as capable of getting in to this trade, but nobody seems to think of that as wrong, at least not to the same degree. I believe this is because A: the nature of men and womens individual sexualities, men are considered to be sexual hunters and women their prey. A man is praised by his peers for having a wide and varied sex-life with many partners, a women is seen as a slut or some other derogatory term. and B: The fact that most people still see women as second class citizens, incapable of looking after themselves and making their own decisions.

Side: Legal Prostitution
sayyad99(773) Disputed
1 point

And do you think that it is acceptable for a nice good looking young girl to sell her body to earn a living? Why are you making it seem as if there are no alternatives?

Scientific studies regarding children and practicing what they see have proved that children practice what they see. Do you think that this is a good example? Legally employed as what? a prostitute? selling sex? What about people forced into prostitution? Don't you think that legalizing prostitution will also increase the rate of human trafficking? The results of a national survey conducted found that atleast

•89% wanted to escape, but did not have other options for survival

•65% to 95% had been sexually assaulted as children

•70% to 95% were physically assaulted

•60% to 75% were raped

•88% experienced verbal abuse and social contempt

•68% met criteria for post-traumatic stress disorder. The severity of symptoms was in the same range as combat veterans seeking treatment, battered women seeking shelter, rape survivors, and refugees from state-organised torture

Ok, lets consider that the last point of my argument applies to both women and men, then answer my question. Many people who are prostitutes are beaten, assualted and raped. Legalizing it will increase the rate of crimes, and many other social issues. It is easier to say legalize something but it is difficult to deal with the issues from the other end.

Side: Illegal Prostitution
1 point

I think it should remain illegal. Firstly, we should made other alternatives avaliable to these women who are engaged in prostitution to earn a daily meal. Secondly, what kind of parental or moral exmaple would they be setting for their children? Thirdly, many women who engage in prostitution gets in contact with the worng set of people who are drug dealers or dangerous criminals which can be dangerous for them. I strongly believe we should consider other alternatives.

Side: Illegal Prostitution
0 points

NO NO NO ! who would ever think about doing something this stupid?

Side: Illegal Prostitution
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Prostitution has existed since the beginning of time, never has making it illegal in any society stopped it, or even lessened the occurrence of it.

One would have to be under the delusion that it currently is not common, or is hard to find, for them to believe that illegality has done anything to stop it. It has not.

However, what making it illegal does do is ensure there is no oversite, and encourages a criminal element.

There are real life examples.

The bunny ranches outside of Las Vegas have 0 pimps unless you count the owners of the ranches (who don't beat their women or kidnap 15 year olds unlike places prostitution is illegal), no cases of human slavery, the public does not spend 1 penny enforcing an impossible law, and the prostitutes by percentage are less likely to contract diseases or become addicted to drugs - and they make more money.

Within the city of Las Vegas prostitution is illegal. Instead of the public benefiting from taxes derived from the business we spend millions every year combating it, there are instances of human slavery, women are far more likely to be the victims of abuse or addicted to drugs, and on top of it all they do not make any money because the pimps who basically own them get every penny they make.

There will always be instances of abuse and crime in every business whether it's prostitution or, I don't know selling chocolate or something,

However, if you legalize it you eliminate a high percentage of the criminal element which leads to so much of the abuse and the spread of so much disease and drug abuse.

The only reason it is illegal is for "looks".

We say "hey, it's illegal" and that makes it easy for people like yourself to pretend either it does not exist or that it is rare.

But it's like pretending you don't have a cold - instead of just going to a doctor and getting some penicillin you pretend it's not there and eventually you have pneumonia.

Side: Legal Prostitution
ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
1 point

Why exactly is it stupid,? To me it makes perfect sense. Look at my post to see why.

Side: Legal Prostitution
3 points

Something about its illegality has bothered me for a long time; both components of the transaction are legal by themselves, but when combined, they somehow cross into the realm of crime.

Person A is allowed to have sex with Person B.

Person B is allowed to give Person A $500.

But if these two events happen to occur in a way that implies causation, it is not allowed and both parties face a criminal record, fines, or even jail time.

I conclude that this is silly.

Side: Legal Prostitution
2 points

Prostitution being illegal only serves the criminal world with another vice to sell, it leads to human trafficking and untold harm to women, they are getting hooked on drugs further pushing the criminal proceeds. If prostitution were legal there could be safe places for people that wished to sell sex to do so. There would be protection from harm, regular testing for stds and the workers would be able to keep what they earn as well as pay tax.

Besides these arguments there is a lack of a fundamental reason for prostitution being illegal, surely if someone wishes to sell their body for sex they should be allowed to do so. It is an almost laughable fact that if you draw up a contract and film it, it becomes porn and not prostitution, and is therefore legal.

Side: Legal Prostitution
indinewton(3) Disputed
1 point

i agree that making prostitution legal is one way to stop this vice but what you ignored is the kind of future we are providing for our daughters. women who fell in such a trap, who started prostituting due to any reason find it easier but those who were forced to do by rape or drugging can fight for their rights in court, but legalising you know then civil suits will become joke and we would be hearing in court like "your honor, it was no rape but a fair transaction where after dissatisfaction from the money which she had been promised to pay she filed a rape case on my client" and you know there comes the real embarrassment on women rights.

Side: Illegal Prostitution
zombee(1024) Disputed
2 points

I am having a little trouble discerning exactly what you mean so if I have misunderstood you, I apologize.

women who fell in such a trap, who started prostituting due to any reason find it easie who were forced to do by rape or drugging can fight for their rights in court...

Do you mean that legalizing prostitution would harm women who could potentially be forced into it? If so, the exact opposite is true; by removing the criminal element, women who are forced into prostitution are much more likely to go to the police and report the matter without fear of enduring their own legal repercussions. Additionally, there would be a very healthy legal market consisting of women working voluntarily and without answering to anyone; pimps would become largely redundant (or they'd have to reinvent themselves) and it would become much less profitable to force anyone to prostitute themselves.

but legalising you know then civil suits will become joke and we would be hearing in court like "your honor, it was no rape but a fair transaction where after dissatisfaction from the money which she had been promised to pay she filed a rape case on my client" and you know there comes the real embarrassment on women rights.

If prostitution were legalized, rapists would use it as a defense? Do you really think saying, 'well, I was going to give her money' would hold up in court as a rationalization for raping someone?

Side: Legal Prostitution
ricedaragh(2498) Disputed
2 points

what you ignored is the kind of future we are providing for our daughters.

Not so much much ignored as I don't see it as important in this debate, sure no one would like to see their daughter, mother, sister, etc in this line of work but it t least would be a choice. One that is theirs to make.

women who fell in such a trap, who started prostituting due to any reason find it easier but those who were forced to do by rape or drugging can fight for their rights in court,

I don't see the point here, can women not fight for their rights in court if it were legal?

but legalising you know then civil suits will become joke and we would be hearing in court like "your honor, it was no rape but a fair transaction where after dissatisfaction from the money which she had been promised to pay she filed a rape case on my client"

Civil suits are a joke anyway, every law has it's followers and exploiters, are you aware that doctors can tell the signs of forced penetration. I would think that most rapists don't take the time to put on condoms, use lubricants and go to the trouble of getting the lady in the mood. Any way if prostitution was made legal in licensed premises there would be witnesses and protection from rapists and would-be exploiters. The aforementioned rape is probably more likely to occur under present illegal conditions.

How many of these suits have been been filed in Nevada?

Side: Legal Prostitution
2 points

driving it underground makes it less safe, unclean, and more of a general fuss.

from a moral point of view, it just sticks in your gut, how peoples' bodies are sold, willing or not.

Side: Neutral
2 points

Prostitution is already legal, I had to pay for dinner and a movie.

Side: Legal Prostitution
2 points

I dont see why not, our daughters dont have to become prostitutes. They can still get an education and become a lawyer. Just because prostitution becomes legal it doesnt make everyone want to sell themselves

Side: Legal Prostitution
1 point

Prostitution has been existing since the ancient times. Having no prostitution is better , BUT it is impossible. Let's just accept the fact and try to make it better.Imagine a safe place where you can hire a registered prostitute that has been checked for STDs. Prostitutes will be retured unharmed in the same place at the time they agreed on. This benefits both parties.

Let's look at the reality. Prostitution being illegal leads to more crimes. Those prostitutes are being dragged to worst situation by getting pimps to protect the, yet abuse them. Pimps get more than prostitutes who work hard to earn money. If they could only get protection from our legal authority, they could have done better and make a better living. They could be prostitutes for a few years and start a new life once they saved enough money. Moreover, human trafficking and untold abused to women will lessen.

Side: Legal Prostitution

States can get much needed revenue from State controlled houses of prostitution.

Side: Legal Prostitution