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What would Jesus do? Wouldn't He want us to follow His example of love thy neighbor? When God found out about Satan's betrayal, why didn't He kill Him right there and then? Instead, He cast Him down to Earth. And when Jesus found out about Judas' betrayal, all He did was make a semi snide remark. If I remember correctly, Satan is not scheduled to go to the lake of fire until sometime after the rapture. Finally, who are we to judge? He who hasn't sin should throw the first stone.
I say that if Satan was given a chance..., time to see the errors of his ways and repent, so should everyone else.
What makes God your parent? I thought your parents were earthly. How did God become your parent? You are under death penalty, I guess you can say it is severe punishment but is it not fair? You have had evil thoughts and done evil things, repulsive to God, and do you not deserve to be separated from Him forever? Since you are dying, if God ever could have been your parent He has obviously disowned you or you would not be dying, would you?
Sure. I could see where He would want to be separated from me. But to me that means that He would leave me to my own devices. I don't see any reason why He would destroy me. If you had a child or an iPod, and you were not pleased, would you destroy them or would you just give them to someone else who wants them? I don't see God as being Hell bent on destroying things.
Ok, it's good that you don't see God as being Hell bent. People are bent by Hell, God is not. It's good that you realize God is not Hell bent on destroying things.
Do you think death destroys life? Is your life being destroyed by death? If you are one of God's children, why is He letting our life be destroyed? Could it be that you are not one of His children? Why is God giving you over to death?
If God wants to be separated from you, why does He allow you to live at all? Could it be that He wants you to be reconciled to Him, to come to terms in agreement with Him so that you do not have to be separated from Him?
Thank you for your thoughtful responses. I'm impressed, didn't think you had it in you to be so thoughtful. Most people can't contain their rudeness when their beliefs are challenged.......and you know me, I'll throw their rudeness right back in their faces and laugh knowing they hate me for telling them the truth.....but you don't see the truth yet, so I'll present you with questions trying to provoke you to deeper and clearer reasoning of judgement, mercy, and faith.
God invites all people to reason with Him, desiring all people to be in agreement with Him to live in His Kingdom of Heaven forever, where He will freely give them all things that pertain to life....goodness of godliness so good, infinitely far beyond what we can begin to imagine heaven will be as it will be forever and unending blessings of and from God who glorifies Himself by giving life because it shows He is good and He delights to show Himself as He is, good. Ok, I don't mean to preach now, I just want to put an idea in your head that God's intention for you is unimaginably wonderfully good.
Death,here,on this planet, means nothing. All that happens is that you go to another existence. Another plane. Life, here, is like playing a virtual reality game. Death is like when you take off the goggles.
So you think nothing really changes in death, and you become the real you able to see reality clearly? How do you know your view on this is correct if you cannot see reality clearly now?
But faith in what? When I sit in a chair in my house, I am reasonably sure before I sit down that the chair will hold me. I have faith in the chair. I don't want to sit in a chair I'm not sure of any more than I want an eternity I'm not sure of. Are you sure you want to have faith in things obscured by goggles? What if the goggles are actually causing you to see things all wrong even though the wrong way of looking at things feels good? Do those goggles really make death good?
Ok, I guess I have to skip over your first ten rambling lines of nonsense to get to your point at the end, which while evading answering the question of the debate makes an interesting statement.
What makes you think Satan was given a chance to repent? You and I can be saved, so it is true that everyone else, people, can repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and have eternal life.
Take a clear stand on what you want, which is the topic of discussion here. Do you want eternal life in Heaven or eternal dying in Hell? By the way you are talking, it sounds like you are dying and do not have eternal life....which would mean you are lost and on your way to Hell. Just saying, can't really tell by your words which mostly are nitpicking on me.
I don't see it. I see nothing explaining why he thinks Satan had a chance to repent. It's not in the Bible, and this guy with the whore face icon is not answering my question.
There is a disconnect between the two phrases of the sentence and no explanation of why he thinks Satan has a chance to repent. Let him answer for himself, or you try to explain f you want to, but saying Satan hasn't been sent to Hell yet does not mean he has a chance to repent, or that he ever had a chance to repent, or that he ever will have that chance.
Oh, a Hollywood whore who get's paid for wearing piles of makeup and dressing like a high priced prostitute. She's whore faced. Women who paint themselves up and dress like whores using their sexuality for financial gain are practicing a form of prostitution. If you want to put that stuff on a pedestal, go ahead. I don't like seeing women parading themselves like high priced call girls.
There is a disconnect between the two phrases of the sentence and no explanation of why he thinks Satan has a chance to repent.
You already have the belief that you have the chance to repent as long as you haven't been sent to Hell yet. There is no disconnect.
You are not the devil, are you? There is a disconnect. You have a physical body, the devil does not. You have time in dying, the devil does not. The disconnect remains.
All of your other points in defense of women dressing and parading themselves like whores only show that your wife and daughter (if you have them) or your mother probably look like whores and who knows what they are doing behind closed doors with God only knows who.
Oh, a Hollywood whore who get's paid for wearing piles of makeup and dressing like a high priced prostitute.
He has time because he hasn't been sent to Hell yet.
All of your other points in defense of women dressing and parading themselves like whores only show that your wife and daughter (if you have them) or your mother probably look like whores and who knows what they are doing behind closed doors with God only knows who.
And all your points illustrate you hate women and that you are gay.
He does not go through death. You do. The devil has time outside of Hell, as you do, but your time is limited in dying. The devil is not dying as you are. The disconnect remains, the Bible is being used in error to support an idea that is not in the Bible and cannot be supported by any logic.
The fact that I don't like seeing women painted and dressed like whores only means I don't like seeing women painted and dressed like whores. I guess your mother, sister, wife, and daughter dress like whores and you know what they say about it if looks like a duck..........
The disconnect remains, the Bible is being used in error to support an idea that is not in the Bible and cannot be supported by any logic.
Your whole life is spent supporting ideas that aren't in the Bible. Logically, if the Bible says that the devil hasn't been sent to Hell, and the Bible says that you can repent until you are sent to Hell, then logically it is supported because that is how logic works. Are you saying that 1 of those 2 things isn't discussed in the Bible?
The fact that I don't like seeing women painted and dressed like whores only means I don't like seeing women painted and dressed like whores.
It means you have no concept of what it means to be a whore, which is strange since you seem to be a whore expert.
I guess your mother, sister, wife, and daughter dress like whores and you know what they say about it if looks like a duck..........
Or, maybe normal people are able to tell the difference between women and women who are whores.
The guy with the whorish faced icon is referencing the Bible in support of his statement that Satan has a chance to repent. That cannot be found in the Bible so the guy's reasoning is baseless since he's trying to support it with nothing but the Bible. There is a more than one disconnect in this statement. It's typical of people who think that running their mouths with no logic proves they are intelligent. It's kinda like an atheist saying "the big bang happened when the Singularity exploded" without explaining where the "Singularity" came from or what caused it to explode.
The guy with the whorish faced icon is referencing the Bible in support of his statement that Satan has a chance to repent.
That isn't as bad as someone like you who thinks you are God referencing the Bible.
That cannot be found in the Bible so the guy's reasoning is baseless since he's trying to support it with nothing but the Bible.
But, you're still wrong about him not providing his justification.
There is a more than one disconnect in this statement.
The only disconnect is between your ears.
It's typical of people who think that running their mouths with no logic proves they are intelligent.
That's your whole life.
It's kinda like an atheist saying "the big bang happened when the Singularity exploded" without explaining where the "Singularity" came from or what caused it to explode.
How would you know? You don't understand the quoted statement, how can you draw any conclusions about it?
I find it difficult to answer your question because I do not believe that I am going to Hell. Nor do I believe that the options you have presented are the only options I have to chose from. In fact, those 2 options may not even be on the list of options.
Ok, I'll try to give you simpler questions. Where do you believe you are going, tell me what other options you think you might have. By the way you talk, I don't think you have any good reason to believe you are going wherever you think you might be going, let's find out. Tell us all about it, what do you think your other option is?
Thank you for good honest comments and questions. I didn't expect it, I'm pleasantly surprised. I hope you won't get mad as I try to answer your questions truthfully. You are now acting the way I ask people to act in my debates and I truly appreciate it.
I would imagine that the universe is big enough to carve off a piece and let the sinners live there any way they wish. To kill them would be vengeful and the God in the new testament is not a vengeful God. He's a kinder, gentler God.
To kill the sinners would be vengeful, and God is not vengeful? So why is He letting the sinners be killed? My youngest brother was like the most innocent of babies, why was he killed so young? Why was his death so brutal? There was no gentleness or kindness......it was terrible. How can you say God is kind and gentle when such evil seems to be unstoppable?
You see death as a bad thing. I see death as a good thing. Would you have liked it better if you could have stayed in High School forever or would you rather get High School over with ASAP and get on with your "Real" life?
I guess you have never watched an animal or a person you loved as they suffered and died. I don't see how you can view death as a good thing. If dying is your real life, what good is it? And if your real life is in death, what are you waiting for? Why not blow your brains out and be a high school graduate? How do you know that your real life is in dying?
I have been watching my grandma practically die in front of my eyes for the last few years. She doesn't even recognize me any more. She should be put out of her misery. But that is against the law. Why not blow my brains out now? There are people who depend on me.
I'll continue this conversation with you here, but would you please post this comment in my new discussion?http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Open toAllImagineyourselftobeGodhowwouldyoufeelwhatwouldyou_do
Thanks for your comments and questions. I need ten people to post in my new discussion.
If you believe you are, can be, or want to be saved from your sins, please argue in the Affirmative position.
Of course I do! How? Hinduism seems very legitimate and practical. Christianity seems a lot harder to accept. It's better than Islam, who promote tricking people into converting, but Christians have done some pretty crazy things in the name of God too. Why does God have to be so much like a human, and care so much about humans? Why do Christians, especially Catholics, emphasize converting people?
Protestantism is more practical but it still entails that my life should be lived for God. First of all, I don't understand why I can't be a Hindu and be loved by God (I know you say God loves me but if I am Hindu why would he send me to Hell?). Also, don't you fear that living for God may be a waste? What if he doesn't exist? At least Hinduism is satisfactory in day to day life! I don't want to repent for sins unless they it will actually save me from something. So how can you assure me that the word of God and the Bible is correct?
Please answer my questions without being hostile, you have been very nice lately and I feel a lot more comfortable when you address my question without judging me or calling me stupid. Even if the questions annoy you, I want answers.
I watched a newscast of Christians beating Jews to death. Don't tell me Christianity is good. It's evil.
The point I'm trying to make is that there are always bad people who call themselves Hindus or Christians or Muslims but they are not truly anything except selfish.
You made your point by implying you are better than Christians because you are Hindu, saying Hinduism if legitimate and practical. It is that mindset which leads to brutally beating Christians to death because Christianity teaches freedom for any need of religions idols, no need to pay for any items to use in worship.....it threatens the income of Hindu's who make money from selling there Buddha statues and religious paraphernalia. Legitimate and practical justifying evil? Hinduism teaches evil is irrelevant and death is nothin but meaningless, so why should it bother them to kill a few Christians?
You are a sinner who deserves to die and burn in Hell the same as everybody else. Hinduism is evil in that it leads people in a deception thinking their lives are justified by the fact that they exist, and they cannot be punished for their sins in the fire of Hell because they did not choose to exist, so evil is believed to be irrelevant and death ultimately no more meaningful than one tick of the second hand on a clock.
If you say Christianity is evil, show how it is evil logically so that it caused some
Christians to beat some Jews to death. I have showed how the evil of Hindu beliefs caused some Hindus to feel justified in beating Christians to death. It's the same kind of evil which led the Jewish religious leaders to hate Jesus and crucify Him...His teachings were of freedom and the Jewish leader's grip on power and income from collections for religious items and was threatened so they killed Jesus.
individuals do evil things. You implied that Hindus do not do the evil things that SOME Jews and Christians have done......and we didnt' forget the Muslims, did we?
The fact that individuals do evil things does not mean all who are in their community do the same evil things, it does not mean the evil things they do come from their religion or faith. Evil comes from evil by choice of the evil doer.
Where did you see Christians beating Jews to death? that's hard for me to believe, but I would like to see it.....if it's true, it's probably Chaldeans in Iraq who are catholics which is Christian in name only and not Biblical Christians which is real Christians. Biblical Christians do not attack anybody physically only because of differing beliefs. The Hindus beating Christians to death did it because Christianity threatens their source of income from the idols they sell.
If I answer your questions honestly, you will consider it to be hostile. That is why Hindus will beat Christians to death in countries where they can get away with it.
Hinduism is like all religions, making it's followers believe they have the right to exist outside of Hell and cannot be left their forever. It sounds good to say we all get to go to heaven, but it's a lie. We are in a time of punishment now called dying, and it is deserved punishment. When our time is counted down to zero, dying will continue in Hell which we deserve as Justice from the Creator whose law we have broken incurring His wrath against us. This is reality. Hinduism is denial of reality, trying to make death into something meaningless, trying to make life into something meaningless, trying to deny God from ruling over His creation by replacing Him with a meaningless and loveless God who does not care about the reality of evil.
I was deep into an Americanize form of Hinduism which built on the Hindu books and whatever they called their guides or "enlightened ones" like Hare Krishna and Buddha........and don't tell me how different Buddhism and Hinduism are, they are the same thing. I was at the point where beginners in Hinduism would call me a master, and masters would call me a beginning master. I thank God that some stuff happened to make me leery of evil behind the façade of "enlightenment". Hinduism is a powerful deception, in which you will open yourself up to deceiving spirits who will lead you into thinking you are a god or becoming a god or god like and being enlightened.....when you are nothing but a sinner who has broken God's law and deserves to die and be left in the prison of Hell's fire forever. You can say this is hostile to your faith, whatever. It's the truth, and God is against those who try to replace Him with themselves or anything or everything in His creation. "He that believeth on the Son of God hath everlasting life. He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him." If you believe in Hinduism, you are just fooling yourself and you will have to pay for how you encourage others to fool themselves the same as you are fooled.
If you want answers, you have to be open to the concept that people who believe in Hinduism are deceived. If you will not be open to that idea, you will not get answers no matter how much I try to give them to you.
I am open to anything that is backed up by evidence or logical proof. Now I shall ask another question. This is related to your other debate about God. Why does God want to destroy evil. Why does he not let everyone go to Heaven and only make them capable of being good? Is this impossible?
God is love, He loves us and will not deny us of our freedom. He will not stop you from doing evil if you want to do evil, He will not change you into a robot which cannot love freely. That would be illogical as it is not God's character to be loveless. God loves you personally, and He hates the evil that is in you which causes you to life yourself up as if you are better than God and you try to demote God into being a purposeless and loveless "Force" of nature. Hinduism is a futile belief in the annihilation of personality so that you get out of reality and are not held guilty of evil.....we are all guilty, and it is unrealistic to say you are innocent.
Hinduism is a deception, and it is evil no matter how nice of a guy you are....and you sure show signs of being capable of exploding on me in anger. People who are trying to justify themselves in whatever religion they follow always have buttons they hold out to be pushed, chips on their shoulders which they think give them an excuse for doing harm and evil if their buttons are pushed or their chips disturbed........and you sure have shown me that you have the buttons and chips.
Hindu's in areas where Hinduism is strongly dominate and political leaders are supported by the businesses of people selling Vishnu or Buddha statues and incense and candles or whatever would kill me if I were there speaking to all of them as I am speaking to you. I'm talking about freedom and love, and if you know what I know you never would spend a penny on any item sold for religious purposes. Christianity threatens the power brokers at all levels in the world, and one day Jesus Christ Himself is going to rule the world from Mt. Zion and overturn all of the tables of the money changers in every one of their religious temples from the inner chambers of their houses to the castle temples on the highest mountains..........the tables of the Catholic Pope will be overturned the same as the tables with fat Buddha statues and ugly Vishnu pictures and statues.
I will not ask any further questions. You didn't answer any of them in a way that made any sense. You may ban me now. I will continue to be a Hindu and if God thinks I am evil for living as harmoniously as I can, so be it. I will be happy with Hell, eternal suffering, whatever. At least I'm happy and progressive on earth!
But what you believe is what you believe, and I respect that. I'll leave you alone now.
hahahaha......is losing your temper progression or regression, or is it simply natural because your heart is evil against God? If you are progressive on earth, what are you progressing toward other than death?
You see, friend, we both are sinners who have turned to our own way as violators of God's holy law and nothing we can do will change us from being what we are...evil at heart. If you think Hinduism makes you better, you don't fool me, you deserve to die and burn in Hell the same as me and everybody else. You have set up a wall in your mind against God, thinking you can build your character behind that wall to be god-like, thinking you are enlightening yourself when the wall is blocking out the true light which shows you for what you are, a sinner who needs God's mercy to be saved from Hell. You are held on death row, under death sentence, in the penalty of death which serves time in Hell forever where those who try to elevate themselves to be their own god belong as they have turned to worship the creature rather than the Creator who is forever blessed.
Nobody in Hell is going to be happy in Hell. That is the stupidest thing people say on here, stuff like "I'll burn in Hell forever before I worship God". God loves you, and you are trying to murder him to replace him with yourself, the creation, the creature, denying the Creator His right of ownership over all He has created including you, and He will let you be that way in Hell forever and you will remember I tried to warn you and tell you how you can be saved by God the Savior, Jesus Christ, who rose from the dead after He died for our sins, conquered death and offers forgiveness to all who repent of their sin which nailed Him to the cross and believe on Him to receive Him by faith as their Savior. You aren't going to find a friend in Vishnu or Buddha or any Hindu god, Jesus will be your friend above all gods, your God and your Savior, or He will be your judge after you trampled His blood under your feet walking into Hell.
You have no evidence or any logical proof of what you believe. I have evidence and logical proof of what I know is true..........I required it before I believed it. You're being ignorant, believing our life is justified by your existence so you can't be blamable or found guilty. You think you are taking chances........to start with, that's an awful chance to take, chancing to hope you have the right to exist outside of Hell. You don't realize what you are doing, you would not take that chance if you knew you are wrong. Even the possibility of being wrong should make you investigate and not stop until you get answers with assurance so you don't feel you are taking chances. I am taking no chances, gambling is for fools. I was a fool taking chances for decades, then the truth hit me between the eyes and woke me up. You need to wake up in reality and get that fake fuzzy light out of your brain which is keeping you in the dark thinking you are being enlightened.
I was a Hindu. I know by experience what I am talking about. I was like you, thought I was on the path of enlightenment and would be enlightened one way or another sooner or later. I'm telling you it's a lie from Hell designed to destroy millions of people, leading them into Hell. I understand it's hard to believe your family is wrong, but they are wrong if they are Hindus.
My family on both sides is mostly Hindu. They don't get into it deep, as far as I know, like I did, but they are basically Hindu in their beliefs. There is a separation between me and them because of my faith. I can't pretend to not know the truth, I can't keep silent when people are speaking lies which are destructive to their own souls and those around them........
Atheism is basically the same as Hinduism. They both believe they get the same thing in their religion, the right to exist outside of Hell as sinners. Death proves we have no rights at all, but somehow people believe they have the right to exist outside of Hell.....it's insane.
I guess the only way you will believe that as a sinner you do not have the right to exist outside of Hell will be to find yourself in the fire unable to get out....and even then you won't believe it, you will always think you have the right to not be in that fire.....that is my theory on beliefs of lost people in Hell, anyways. I think it's safe to say that people in Hell will always believe they have the right to exist outside of Hell, but they will never be able to get out, and reality depriving them of their desire will be at the root of their screams which will be muffled in the smoke of their torments which will rise forever from the lake of fire.
Now there's a thought......maybe the smoke of their torments will build forever like clouds, and forever be in view of the living from Heaven's shores, .......and it seems like God would limit it's spread because that spread would have no purpose........or maybe it will keep growing but be limited and finite, separated from heaven which is infinite and unlimited for the living to enjoy while the dying whine and moan in the fire of Hell.....a ying yang kinda situation, with the error of the ying yang being that the evil is confined and not equal to God's goodness which is unlimited and unconfined.
what would be your guess? Answer both questions for yourself, and then we'll talk about it. If you say there is no Hell, I'm not going to discuss it except to ask you : As a sinner, what makes you think you have the right to live and not be in Hell?
I'll answer my questions with a question. Is Hell made to punish sinners? And did God make Hell? Why would God want to punish people instead of teach them to be good and not evil?
You are fallen, you are not God, you cannot be God. You cannot be good, no matter how much you are taught and no matter how much you discipline yourself, you have gone bad and you can't undo what you have done, you can't change what you are, you can't stop being what you are. You cannot make yourself clean. No matter what you do, you can never be good enough for heaven because your soul is polluted from evil and you can't change that. If you think you can, you are fooling yourself and being fooled. Even if you become the perfectly behaved munk priest Llama or whatever you think it the highest order of enlightenment you can attain, you are still trying to deny God of His right to reject you based on the fact that you have sinned against Him. You are trying to force Him to accept you when He cannot accept you with your sins remaining on your record.
Every moment of your time, every word, every though, action, and imagination, everywhere you have ever been.........it's your history and it all counts. You cannot change any of it by meditations or benevolent acts, you are guilty and worthy of death and confinement in the fire of Hell where you will not be able to affect the living by your evil. What you are trying to do is to deny God's justice, you are trying to deny Him of His right to hold you accountable for your sin.
Your "path to enlightenment" is nothing but building trails behind a wall which you have set up trying to keep God out. God is the true light, and behind your wall in the dark you are tying to enlighten yourself.......so in that self delusional world, you imagine evil and goodness to be coexistent and inseparable and all part of the same reality which cannot be real except the way it is. God is no good if He does not purge Creation of evil, and keep it confined where it cannot spread again. That purge is coming, God is going to forever separate evil from Creation and confine it in the fire of Hell where the existence of sinners is justified by the fire which consumes them as they had desired to dispel God from His rightful place as the King of Creation, the owner of all things.
God gives us free will, it is not possible for us to have no choice of doing evil. That would be absurd, unrealistic. Hinduism teaches that you progress toward being good and eventually will become incapable of doing wrong. It's unrealistic. We are wrongdoers and cannot change what we are by our own efforts, we will always have the capacity of doing wrong. What's done is done, and cannot be undone.
Why does God want to destroy evil? Simple....because evil wants to destroy God. If I were trying to destroy you and take your family away from you, take away from you everything you own, and force your people to serve me, are you going to sit back and say, "oh well, evil exists and it's ok"? Are you that coldhearted that you would not care how I will abuse the people you love, and take your lands to support myself and my evil ways?
Hinduism is evil and God is going to destroy it and leave those who thought it would take them on the path to enlightenment, He is going to leave them in outer darkness in the fire of Hell if they follow the Hindu path until their time is no longer counted down to finality of dying.
You are still trying to justify yourself, that is what Hinduism is, an attempt at self-justification.
If you want information, you have to start be admitting that you cannot justify yourself and you deserve to die as you are guilty in God's sight and not worthy of being in His presence. If you won't agree on that point, you won't accept any of my answers and I'll just be wasting time with you because you have squirrels in your brain which will lead you on random paths avoiding the truth......and all of those paths lead to death and if you keep going trying to justify yourself you will find Hell's confinement and ever consuming fire justifies the existence of sinners while it proves God is good and loves those who love Him.
NIV was the first homosexual Bible, with a known lesbian as one of it's editors. She made sure to water down the Bible stance against homosexuality. I believe it is still the choice of Sodomites, though they may have "come out" with a newer "Gay Bible" or something stupid like that.
The Bible says all fornicators will have their place in the lake of fire which is the second death, unending dying like the first death with no countdown of time to zero point. Sodomites and lesbians are in a more despicable classification of sin called "abomination" in the Bible. All sin is abomination, but the word gets attached to homosexual sin much more bluntly and repeatedly than practically any other sin in the Bible......I believe idol worship may be called abomination as much or more than homosexuality in the Bible....but the NIV's first concern was it's lesbian editor to change things in the Bible to try to gain sympathy for homosexual perverts.
I want your God to come down to earth and clarify right here and now which religions are right and wrong and which behaviors are right and wrong and which statements in the Bible are direct from his/her lips vs the interpretation of past peoples.
If s/he does that convincingly and your two options are still the only two options then I'll make a choice which would make you happy.
If s/he does NOT do that and instead I'm to take the word of your ugly soul as well as scriptures written decades after Jesus' death trumping up his importance and why the persecuted prophets were right and their persecutors better repent or be sorry then I am utterly unimpressed and don't believe there are only your two choices.
What an idiot. You deny the truth, and you want God to hit you over the head with it? You are asking to wake up in Hell, and you will get your request if you keep asking for it......and maybe a lot sooner than you expect. Don't go outside when lightning is around.
What an idiot. You deny the truth, and you want God to hit you over the head with it? You are asking to wake up in Hell, and you will get your request if you keep asking for it......and maybe a lot sooner than you expect. Don't go outside when lightning is around.
you can stick the bible up your arse! up your arse, right up your arse you can stick the bible right up your arse, from Jerusalem to Wembley stick the bible up your arse!!
Heaven sounds wonderful and I hope I can make it there when I die. I just don't see it though. Sounds too good to be true, and so does Jesus. What kind of god will allow me to be total trash almost my whole life, and then be "saved" and get a one way ticket to the pearly gates? It's stupid.
I'm not saying I'm a bad person, but my karma is probably tipped a little more to the hell side.
We are all bad people, we are all a wreck and broken pieces.
You don't need luck, all you need is the Savior. Let me illustrate it this way with a true life example of how I rescued four people from a traffic accident.
The mini-van and me in my pickup truck were both heading the same way on a four lane one way street. As I was passing on the left, they suddenly turned a hard left in front of me trying to turn left onto a side street. I turned into the turn with them, but could not avoid hitting them and they rolled over on the lawn next to the road. I jumped out of my truck and saw them all hanging in there upside down from their seat belts. I thought "that could burst into flames at any moment" and I didn't want to be standing there watching if it did. I dove in through a shattered side window and got them out one by one, then I got out behind them.
This is kind of what God did for us, He saw our predicament dying, and He dove in to our troubles and took it on Himself as the Son of God. He plunged Himself into our death to lift us up out of it in His resurrection. If the people in that mini van had fought me, I would not have been able to get them out. They received me, they trusted me, and I got them out. If you will believe Jesus rose from the dead and is able to save you, and receive Him by faith, He will save you and you will have eternal life by the power of His resurrection.
Just pray something like this : Dear God, I know I'm a sinner and deserve to die. I believe you love me so much that you gave your Son to die in my place and to save me. I'm asking Him to come in to my heart and be my Savior now, I thank you for giving Him for me to be saved, thank you for saving me.
If you will honestly pray that way between you and God, your sins will be forgiven and you will be saved. God is good and He wants you to know He loves you, He wants you to know His mercy, He wants to give you a home in heaven. Only trust Him, and be saved.
I am not unhappy, wrecked or broken. I do believe in God who created me.
Jesus has no place in that relationship.
At best he was a powerful prophet and a devout holy man, and after his death people came to believe(falsely) that he was the son of God.
At worst he was a political activist and charlatan who led a popular movement and was crucified for it. I hope he wasn't so bold as to also claim to be the son of God during his brief life.
The New Testament is trash, I don't believe a word of it.
You Christians follow a false God, you just wait and see.
Thanks for worrying about my soul though, that's awesome. You are a wonderful person.
