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Consciousness

What if the brain doesnt process consciousness, what if all processes of life, including the rotation of atoms, and even our cognitive functions, are all caused by consciousness? What if it is not the brain that creates, but consciousness that creates our ability to know what we are doing, including the cells in our body? what if they all have a different form of consciousness, not as advanced as ours, but just basic consciousness? and there is higher consciousness?

Is this a plausible theory?

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joecavalry (40130)

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Sure, just give it a name and then put "The Theory of " in front of it. You'll do fine ;)

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feelingtruth (2774)

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I feel like im going to be writing a lot of books in my life

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Hellno (17724)

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Huh? What? Who am I... where am I?

This is not unusual for me.

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Emperor (1340)

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"I am conscious. I am made of cells. Cells are made of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms, and atoms are made of elementary particles. If elementary particles are not conscious, how is it possible that many of them, assembled in molecules and cells and organs, eventually yield a conscious being like me?

I am a way for the universe to know itself."

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feelingtruth (2774)

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so then you DO agree the universe is a conscious being? right?

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Emperor (1340) Disputed

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Nope. Look at facts, not uncertainties.

The universe might be conscious, but you cannot know for sure. Yet.

However, I am conscious.

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Emperor (1340) Clarified

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If you are interested in this topic and want to know more, you can't!

There's not really any information besides guess work- and religious ideas.

If you want to get scientific information on it, you'll have to get the information yourself.

Once you get unbiased results based on experiments and observation, publish it to a peer reviewed science journal so others can look at it. If your idea makes sense and it works, you'll get published. Then we can call it no longer belief, but knowledge.

Science.

Science is latin for knowledge, ya know.

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feelingtruth (2774) Disputed

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But if you are a way for the universe to experience itself, then that would mean we are all part of the universe experiencing itself, which in turn would mean we are the universe itself if the universe is also us, experiencing itself

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Emperor (1340) Disputed

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Well, it means the atoms that make up our brain/body are.

What about rocks? Those aren't really the same, and when you die, you're pretty much gone for good, based on current neuroscience. Religions say otherwise, but eh. You can't really know for sure, but making it up is infinitely worse than not knowing.

It's always ok to not know something.

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feelingtruth (2774) Disputed

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but the forces that hold the rock together know they are holding a rock together, sure they dont KNOW they are a rock, but they know they are holding something together, but rocks dont think (or do they) which would mean they are basic tiny consciousness, not aware of anything not even itself, which is not consciousness, but it could be the rock is just unconscious for the time being, if rocks were conscious beings wed have geodudes flying around LOL

Lets say a robot asks what am i? is it consciousness ? just because it knows what consciousness is, does that make it a conscious being? and if thats the case... idk... my mind is hurting thinking about this

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Emperor (1340) Disputed

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How can you know they know?

I would say it's not possible to know if rocks know they are rocks or that they know anything at all.

Even though it is something you claim to believe, why don't I believe? If I accept black holes exist, the strangest object in the universe which sucks in matter through gravity strong enough to pull in light and matter, never to release it ever into normal space again, where mass is frozen in infinite, undergoing loops where time does not exist, then your idea must make less sense than that. =D

Give me evidence and a reason to believe. If what you say is true, you should have a way that you know it is true, and so others know it is true. Otherwise, how do you know it's true?

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ChuckHades (3179)

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It's an idea, but it's not a theory, or even a hypothesis. How do you plan on testing this to prove that it's true? Have you made any observations beforehand to lead you to this conclusion?

If neither of those criteria are met, it cannot even be called a hypothesis.

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Dandeluxe (79)

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What if there is an infinite number of systems and everything is rotating around something, electrons around nuclei, planets around stars, stars around galaxies centered around black holes, galaxies moving around dark matter cosmic structures making up universes rotating around some crazy super-universal body, rotating around something else, which are the "electrons" whizzing around the nuclei of matter that makes up sentient beings in a gigantoverse and so on?

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