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Glenn Beck's 9 Principles (how many do you agree with?)

 

1. America is good.

2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.

3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.

4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.

5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one is above it.

6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results.

7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.

8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion.

9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer to me.

 

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6 points

1, 3, 5, 8 are okay. But there are some countries in S. America I'm not too fond of, 1 should probably be the "U.S."

2, I won't get into

4, his spouse and him can't decide to go on a killing spree, and expect not to answer to the government, that one's some poppycock if you ask me. I do agree with it as far as raising kids. For example the government taking time and money to censor stuff, that's the parent's responsibility, not government... I'm not sure Glenn Beck really agrees with his own Principle though on that.

6, life and happiness, okay, not much anyone can do about those, but liberty should be guaranteed equal results. I'm not sure what he's thinking on that one.

7, I think he's talking about welfare. the reason things like that are taken out of taxes are 1. people are not nearly as charitable as they pretend to be, and 2. poverty breeds crime and stupidity, both of which cost way more in the long run than the pitance that goes to welfare, and it's literally pennies a day.

9, we vote for leaders, and sometimes laws, but we're subject to those laws. You can't be like "well, I don't like that, so I'm not gonna do it!" No, it's not an employer/ employee relationship.

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ThePyg(6756) Disputed
3 points

so what you're basically saying is that we must submit to the government... just cause the majority says so.

welfare doesn't solve poverty or crime... and it certainly doesn't solve stupidity. what it does do is cost the richer Americans money... plus, criminals should be harshly punished so that money won't be an issue there. you know, no tv, no basketball courts... shit like that.

don't think he meant liberty literally, but more on life and happiness.

Side: God is not the center of my life
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

"his spouse and him can't decide to go on a killing spree, and expect not to answer to the government"

Ya think so? Hmmm that might be what # 4 is about. Duh.

When he said "authority" he meant the authority over the family, what did you think he meant? Over the U.S.? It sounded like you thought he said that husbands and wives are like evil dictators or something. Parading around murdering people saying "we are the authority". I doubt that is what he meant.

As for # 6, ..come on. You kind of found a loophole there. You obviously don't like Glenn Beck and you are looking for loopholes.

Side: ALL OF THEM
1 point

If you agree with most of these principles then you might be interested in the. 912 Project

I agree with all nine of these.

Side: ALL OF THEM
1 point

I agree with 8 of them. I don't believe in God and he is certainly not the center of my life.

I actually saw the episode when he brought this up with some friends.

Side: God is not the center of my life
1 point

Was it the special on Friday? That was a good show. I'm a big fan of Beck.

Side: ALL OF THEM
1 point

I think so. I like Beck in small doses though. I don't think he's funny... that's the main problem. He tries to be, but isn't.

Side: God is not the center of my life
1 point

I agree with all 9. They all ring true and sound perfectly sound. I am a big fan of Glenn Beck he is unlike the most bothersome Nancy Grace.

Side: ALL OF THEM
Cerin(203) Disputed
0 points

They mostly ring true for me as well, but Glen Beck scares me. He's weirdness rolled in creepy smothered in oddness.

Side: ALL OF THEM
0 points

1. Yes, for some definition of "good".

2. No.

3. Yes.

4. Sorta. The family is certianly sacred, but I don't see how this relates to it being the ultimate authority. If you and your wife decide you should be allowed to murder people, the government shouldn't be able to oppose you?

5. Yes.

6. Yes.

7. Yes.

8. Yes.

9. Yes.

Side: God is not the center of my life
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

I think that number five answers the problem that you have with number four. And when he said "ultimate authority" he meant of the family, not of America.

Side: ALL OF THEM
-1 points

It would help if he actually followed them. But he doesn't.

He is anti-American and a false Christian.

Side: ALL OF THEM
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
4 points

Hey, I have some questions:

1. What makes you think that he doesn't follow the principles?

2. Why are you worried about Glenn?, thats not why I made this debate, this is about you.

3. What makes you think he is anti-American? I don't think that could be further from the truth.

4. What makes you think he is a false Christian?

Side: ALL OF THEM