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Is the Health care reform an act of communism?

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No, it is a act of socialism.----------------------------------

Side: No
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
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No, it is a act of socialism.----------------------------------

Why?

Side: yes
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Because it is unfair that I have to pay twice for health care. One for myself, and two for someone else who gets it at discounted prices because of government subsidies that were taken from me.

Side: No
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Communism itself is based on the Communist Manifesto. The economics behind Communism are Socialist, but that's only to get things started. Eventually, it would lead to dissolve of any government necessity. Communism is retarded.

Interestingly, Andsoccer and I are debating on government regulation over junk food. He brings up how it would decrease the cost of health care if less people are able to buy junk food.

This is true, which is why it's still bad for government to socialize medicine. If all of a sudden government must regulate our behavior in order to cut cost, it's the EXACT reason why government should not be involved with anything related. In America, we are free because we have the ability to choose for our lives. If we lose that, what do we have?

Side: No
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
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Communism itself is based on the Communist Manifesto.

The Manifesto is merely the Marxist variety. And it just so happens to be one of the most influential pieces of Communist literature. But Marx didn't make up Communism.

The economics behind Communism are Socialist.

Not really. Not at all really. Marxist economics deviates from classical socialism (the only socialism around at the time): News from Nowhere, Herland, The Republic etc. etc.

Communism is retarded.

Why?

If all of a sudden government must regulate our behavior in order to cut cost, it's the EXACT reason why government should not be involved with anything related.

The same argument can be used for the private sector, which on a regular basis regulates human behavior to cut or save costs.

In America, we are free because we have the ability to choose for our lives. If we lose that, what do we have?

It's nothing more than an illusion. And until you recognize that, you'll be stuck in the cave. You exist in a system of discipline that has purposefully oriented your entire life towards its own benefit and ultimate perpetuation.

And that's no judgment against you, it's a judgment against the system of discipline. You're always free to pull a Socrates (or are you?) if you really feel like exercising that supposed freedom you think you have.

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ThePyg(6738) Disputed
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True, Communism existed in it's own form before Marx, but as we understand it now, the Manifesto is the best literature to follow on it.

Private sector is not legislation. people are free to take part in some forms of the private sector or not, if they choose. The same is harder to say for government (move to an entirely new country? c'mon).

And a system of discipline is all in the head. If you're disciplined, you eat less junk food and do less drugs, making you healthier, but if you decide to live fast and die young, you lost all your discipline. People do that all the time (even though government tries to stop them). Even though we are not truly free, that doesn't always stop people.

The point is, government should not impose on our lives like it does. We have the ability to to choose when it comes to private sector, but if we deviate from government law, we're arrested.

Side: No

It is now 2015 and many Americans who could not afford medical insurance are grateful to be able to finally afford it.

Side: No