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The execution of Anne Boleyn was wrong and unjustified.

On Friday 19th May 1536 Queen Anne was beheaded by a French swordsman on Tower Hill, two days earlier her brother George and four other men (Sir Henry Norris, Mark Smeaton, Sir Francis Weston and Sir William Brerton) were also sent to their deaths. The accused were convicted to high treason, adultery and incest (in George's case) and Anne had the added on charge of witchcraft but no plausible evidence was ever included in the trials. Her own father Sir Thomas Boleyn, her uncle the Duke of Norfolk and Sir Henry Percy 6th Earl of Northumberland (the man she wished to marry thirteen years before) were part of the jury that sentenced her to death. So was it right of King Henry VIII to send his second wife to the scaffold without any real evidence? I admire Anne's strength and courage and I firmly believe that the King wished to be rid of her. He was running out of time to produce a male heir (Anne had only ever given birth to one living child- Elizabeth and had had many miscarriages.) By this time Henry had fallen under the spell of Jane Seymour, a younger more obedient girl who was more than likely to give him the son he so desired. Anne was headstrong and opinionated and I think she became too much for Henry to handle; he liked to control his women and wanted to always be in control himself. As I said, no substantial evidence was ever produced that fully condemned Anne or the others.

http://englishhistory.net/tudor/prianne3.html Anne's final confession, this truly embodies her courage.

It was wrong

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Anne Boleyn was killed without any evidences. But not in the way you think. Who created and managed the whole intrigue was Thomas Cromwell, 1st Earl of Essex.

Anne wanted to redistribute the Church funds, directing them to educational and charitable institutions. Cromwell, as a high authority in the Church, disagreed of this reform and wanted to direct the Church money to the Crown. However, he couldn't openly disagree with the decision of the Queen. Therefore, he planned accuse her of adultery and incest. The judgment was unfair and Anne Boleyn was executed.

Side: It was wrong
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I agree Cromwell played his part in Anne's downfall but I have to disagree that he master-minded the whole thing. Let's not forget that Sir Thomas was a close friend of the Boleyn family and had relied heavily upon the support of Anne's father, brother and uncle for his campaign against the Roman Catholic church. Therefore, I think that Cromwell was put to the task by Henry because it was Henry who wanted rid of Anne.

Side: It was wrong
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Well, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area, so I can't argue. And what you've said makes sense. Besides, Henry had four wives after Anne. He didn't exactly love his wives.

Side: It was wrong

She should never have been executed. She did a martyr. Henry VIII was a tyrant.

Side: It was wrong

She obviously pissed somebody off. Someone more powerful than herself. She should have know her place in the pecking order and realized that hers was not the biggest pecker ;)

Side: It was right
TudorRose(117) Disputed
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Insightful..................... :) But I would disagree, yes she may have as you say 'pissed somebody off' but even so that cannot be used as an excuse for removing someone's head from their shoulders.

Side: It was wrong

Maybe so. But still..., I've been tempted many times . ;)

Side: It was wrong
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There is a lot of things that are not quite public knowledge about Anne Boleyn that I feel compelled, as a historian, to reveal to you.

Many people have attempted to cover up facts about history in the past to prevent terrible things from happening, but I don't think I'll run into too many problems here if I reveal the truth. The fact is, that letters from Ann Boleyn to her sister, Mary, show that Anne was actually an atheist. She was, in fact, considering public announcement when she ran into some difficulty after the truth was discovered. It was impossible for anyone to find out at the time because the truth was so well-hidden and it was almost impossible for us to find the truth now, yet we have found the letters.

Henry VIII justified her death when he found out about her atheistic side by accusing her of witchcraft. Little evidence was found for it but the letters, who were provided to a select few powerful members of the jury. Such a thing was deeply frowned upon in those days and she was quickly beheaded. It is also a little-known fact that she was accused for heracy, too.

So was it justified? Well, it was from their perspective. And due to the fact that Henry VIII was Jesus' great grandson (which is what made him King of England) I would say that it certainly was justified.

Side: It was right
TudorRose(117) Disputed
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right okay but I think those letters between Anne and her sister may have been slightly overly misinterpreted i.e. her enemies saw what was not there in order to bring about her downfall. i wouldn't go as far as to say that she was an atheist though. Most certainly she campaigned against the abuses of the RC church and supported the beginning of Cromwell's dissolution of the church altogether. She still had a faith- she was an Anglican so therefore she was not an atheist, perhaps you could say she was as 'atheist' (in broad terms) to the RC church and its ideology. And yes I am aware that heresy was among the many other charges, I just forgot to put it in. Jesus' great grandson? Maybe I'm missing the point here but I thought that the King was God's REPRESENTATIVE on earth not a relation. The King symbolised the power of the divine and was second from God in medieval hierarchy (unless you count the Pope before the king.. which of course Henry did not like).

Side: It was wrong
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my argument is she stumped on cathrine place has queen and treated her stepdaughter cold. AND she she steped on alot of people just because they didnt like her. I am not saying henery shoulde`v killed her. my top reason is karam she pushed people out of the way and then thought she was better then cathrine but end up being just like her and realy throught God was going to bless her with a son

Side: It was right