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Should men be allowed wearing a dress to work?
Since women are allowed to cut their hair short, wear suits, ties and whatever they like without negatively affecting their career, shouldn't a man be allowed wearing make-up and a dress to work?
When I showed up for my first day of work, my boss asked why I was wearing women's clothing. I said, "You told me to bring an index card with my name and a dress."
If Women can have short hair and wear trousers and suits the reverse should be allowed. My work is heavily biased against men, no beards, hair must be not go passed your collar and i'm pretty sure no dresses whereas Women are allowed earings, long or short hair, dresses, skirts trousers or suits although I think the beard rule applies to them as well. Even so blatant sexism.
Chivalry was killed by feminism. So I call for reverse feminism.
Unless of course their is a dress code, or uniform, in which case the men and women should still wear the same thing. If a woman has a uniform consisting of a skirt or anything native to females, the males in that firm should also be allowed to wear the females uniform.
I'm sorry but if my daughter were to come to me in a male suit with cut hair I'd just give her a good old slap round the cheek and say get the shit off, And I'd give a good kick to my son if he wore a dress.
Then in my opinion you are a terrible father - and don't think you are doing them any good in doing that. You will just destroy their self esteem and creativity, and in the future they might need serious help from professionals.
Actually if she wore a tie it would usually be a slutty attire.
I don't even mind her in a blouse and tie, it's about the issue of her really trying to look like a man, you gotta knock that shit outta them before it's too late.
I mentioned before, that I don't think nudity should be allowed.
I think there should be some kind of limit - etc. nudity and shirts with texts which could be an harassment to someone.
I think there is a HUGE difference between a man wearing a dress, and a man showing people his ass - and if you can't see the difference then I see no point in debating with you.
If everyone would have thought like you, then we would have become nowhere in this world.
If people would only have used everything for it's original purpose, then we wouldn't have cars, computers, basic modern technology, houses .. we would pretty much live like all animals.
Think out of the box, inside the box leads you nowhere except a place in the same box.
What does that have to do with this arguement? That has nothing to do with men wearing dresses. There is a differents between technolgy advances and wearing a dress.
You said, that the dress was originally built for a woman.
Most of the stuff in your house was originally built to be used for something else - I wanted to make a point, by showing you have boxed your opinion is.
If the argument against men wearing dress is, that it was originally built for a woman, then you shouldn't use toiletpaper, since paper originally was built or made for writing on.
Exactly! We should not use toilet paper it is a waste of paper, whos dumb idea was it to wipe their butt on our paper!?!
Ha, just because I am not " Open minded" like you liberals say on this issue does not mean I am " Close minded " to everything. In fact Ive got a idea for a missile made from corn.
If you want every object to be used to it's original purpose, then yes, I hate to say it, but you are close minded.
Do you know how people invent things? They try to use things for different purposes. If everything was used how it was built to be used, then we would be stuck in .. I don't know what time, but the first time period humans have ever lived in.
Well, I thought about leting gays be openly gays, I disagree with it because I do not beileve that is how God wanted it to be. So for you I would be disagreeing with my religion to be "open minded" if you mean I must accept gays as normal people of the community. If you dont believe in God this sounds dumb and I know that.
Sorry I was getting confused with the other arguement for a second. I does define it in a way if we like it or not. What is someone is wearing a pink shirt with flowers on it?
If someone wears a pink shirt with flowers on it, then the only information that shirt gives us about the person wearing it, is the person likes pink and flowers.
It does not give us the information that it is either a woman or a gay guy.
I'd argue that maybe people who wear this are generally homosexual but I feel this is more because society than anything. Back when women only wore dresses I would not be surprised to find that women who wore pants were generally lesbians, though I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised not that I think that is the case, I'd have to research to know.
HA, just kidding. I think that boys should dress like boys and girls light girls.
Why?
Why question it?
Questioning things allows us to see the reasoning behind them. If there is essentially no reason behind tem why go along with it. Everything should be questioned. without this argument I just gave you, I could easily apply it to your opposition.
"I think girls should dress like boys and boys dress like your girls. Why should that be questioned."
Of course I don't agree with either of them. But essentially why not question these? Of course I consider the "why not?" Argument faulty until a why has been showed which I have done.
This question's too vague, I don't like it. Work? Where's work? If he works at a drag bar for sure, but not as a concierge at a fancy-smancy hotel. I'm gay, I'm not transphobic, just practical. In dealing with society certain societal standards must be met, lest business suffer. An employer would be offering undue laxness in allowing an employee to bring about damage to the business, and should put limitations and/or restrictions on activities taken part in by the employees which do so.
It would be unfair to employees who call him "ma'am" and suddenly might get fired for being rude to him since they only saw back of his head before mentioning it.
The types of men who wear dresses and women who wear suits are often not only hormonally different in their brains but bodies too, it's often very hard to tell at first (I have seen transvestites both in real life and on screen that you would have to take a fourth glance at to even begin to realise).
Not necessarily, but pretty much 99% of men who'd want to do it regularly would be of that type since a heterosexual male would probably feel out of place and downright embarrassed to do so.
How can you speak for all men when you say you don't want to wear a dress unless you're gay?
I think the only reason men don't wear dresses is because they are being looked at as homosexuals, and if that image changed, then .. maybe one day dresses for men would be fashion, just like suits for women are today.
You can have men allowed to come into work with a dress on and not make something like calling him "ma'am" worthy of being fired. Plus when you are working somewhere you get to know all or most of your co-workers pretty well. I don't see how someone can confuse another co-worker they see every day or at least a few times a week a different gender... unless they tried hard to look feminine and everyone assumed he was a girl in which case he probably preferred being called "ma'am". He probably wouldn't care either way.
a) He wouldn't be extremely offended. (based on association between wanting to appear feminine and wanting to be considered female, which is an understandable but incorrect assertion to make).
b) The co-workers would be able to tell from the back of him.
a) He wouldn't be extremely offended. (based on association between wanting to appear feminine and wanting to be considered female, which is an understandable but incorrect assertion to make).
If it is wanting to appear feminine then being called "ma'am" should be a compliment as it shows he appears feminine, even if he doesn't like being considered female but rather appearing like it, he can clarify that he is actually a man. if it is wanting to be considered female there is definitely no issue.
b) The co-workers would be able to tell from the back of him.
I was saying that since they work with him they should realize pretty quickly whether or not he is male, it's not like you are only ever going to get to see his backside the entire time you are working with him.
We are not talking about looking like a different gender everyday.
We are talking about clothes.
Do you think a woman in a suit looks like a man?
I don't think so, and I don't think a man wearing a dress looks like a woman either. And unless you cover up your face real good, then everybody should recognize you, unless they have a problem with their sight.
So because you personally don't think this means that most people, who would easily be fooled by the make-up and dress and probably long hair and manicured nails, are not entitled to their confusion?
Sorry, I might have pressed the dispute button by mistake, sorry for that.
Although I DO think the sexuality of the person behind the clothes is irrelevant. Clothes are clothes, and they shouldn't define your preferences, only your creativity and style - and there shouldn't be ONE style for a sexual preference.
Sorry, I might have pressed the dispute button by mistake, sorry for that.
No worries
Although I DO think the sexuality of the person behind the clothes is irrelevant. Clothes are clothes, and they shouldn't define your preferences, only your creativity and style - and there shouldn't be ONE style for a sexual preference.
I agree, I think it is more acceptable for a woman (in our society not by my own standards) to not have to be feminine beyond technicality, but for a man it isn't. I think this comes down to socialization and sexual selection. In society we have things considered purely feminine are bizarre and odd for a men to like or participate in. It is perfectly acceptable for women to wear pants, jeans, suits, ties, etc and can still be perfectly attractive to most men in society. It is technically accepted as not wrong but a big social taboo for men to wear dresses, skirts, make-up, etc and will turn a strong majority of women off (unless it is a fetish). There is a color most of mankind consider to only belong to women but not a color that only belongs to men in the same sense, we consider it odd for a man to like the color pink, however it is perfectly normal for a women to like any color of the spectrum. Gender roles seem to me in our society more strongly pushed on men than women, nothing is considered masculine in the same sense than anything is considered feminine. A suit and tie is to some extent in our society considered pretty unisex, however a dress and etc is considered only feminine. Women don't feel more like a man necessarily when wearing "masculine clothes" and don't seem less like a women to most others (though that was different at some point), however a man wearing womens clothes is emasculating, and makes him seem less of a man to most others. It is kind of odd when you think about it.
It couldn't be a statewide or nationwide law it has to be a decision within that company whether or not to allow it. Each company makes its own dress code, keep it that way.