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Culture/Religion Question

Im going to research a Religion and or culture and putting together a slide show thing for this boy scouts thing at church.

What Culture and or Religion is interesting? Any ideas?

Keep in mind I'm supposed to kind of focus on the positives.

 

 

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I can't be totally specific because I'm not sure right now, (and don't want to google it down to the core) but you should google, look into Native American cultures. There were a lot of different native american tribes, and each had their own cultures, and they were pretty awesome cultures. And I think it'd go well with boy scouts too... just leave out the information about them doing drugs, if you end up picking one of the tribes that did peyote or something.

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There are sources that cover Native American religions as a whole, in terms of the generalities they all tend to follow.

Why leave out the drug use? Why is that taboo? That kind of willful ignorance about a natural human tendency is part of what's messed this country up. And yes, it IS natural, according to archaeology.

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Ya, I'm not a huge fan of leaving out pieces of information, but I say it because he's doing the presentation for boy scouts, which are young boys, and if you mention an awesome culture and their drug use to induce religious states of mind, it might encourage the boys to go for it. Just my thoughts... maybe they won't... but 'eh...

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Hey thank's I think I will do that. ((=

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Well you could always research into East Asian culture and the importance of Buddhism there. I've always found that somewhat interesting. And it's seen throughout multiple cultures in East Asia.

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Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism.

Basic Pantheism + Beliefs concerning the spirit, human nature, the human condition, reincarnation, karma, tao (pronounced dao or "d-ouw"). Again, someone already mentioned buddhism or Asian culture and religions, but it spreads further than that.

If you want to do a good job, start with Hinduism, then transfer to Buddhism, and then finally Pantheism, and if you really want to, carry that over the Atheism because Pantheism and Atheism seem from the outside to be so close, but they are so different. They are all similar though, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, and Pantheism, in their philosophy or outlook.

All four "religions" are rich with philosophy, just look at Tibetans. In fact that's something that is still going on, to this day. You could end by talking about the westernization of Buddhism (and the rest) and China's sneaky oppression of the Tibetans.

It's such a big project though, maybe just stick with Western Buddhism and do that well, or Taoism and how it relates to so many cultures and so many "religions".

Side: Hinduism Taoism Buddhism Pantheism
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I realize you may know this, but just didn't mention it. But let's not idealize pre-Chinese Tibet. It closely resembled Medieval Europe in that it was dominated and even oppressed by Feudalism and Lamaism (Buddhism led by Dalai Lama). The religion closely resembles the medieval Catholic church in structure and power. In fact, it's arguable that conditions in Tibet are better now than they were before China. That doesn't legitimize the invasion at all, but it is what it is. :-\

Side: Hinduism Taoism Buddhism Pantheism
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I just remembered you were doing this for boy scouts, which is the reason I chose this one. It deals a lot with the ability to know god through his creations. It's a spiritual philosophy that is more dedicated to studying the watch, and appreciating the watch maker that way than reading the Bible and going to church. It's a very personal religion because you are a great part of it. You are the instrument studying the watch, basically, instead of claiming to know the watchmaker because you see the watch. It's a very down-to-earth philosophy that deals with almost every aspect of life, and without many conflicts with western religion. You could practice Taoism and believe that Jesus Christ is the son of god and so on without conflict.

Just as an example:

"That which has been described so far is the common ground of the later schools of Lao-tse und Con-fu-tse (Confucius) - historians think they lived around 500 BC

Taoism (Lao-Tse: among others the book "Tao-te-ching") taught "To act with the meditative attitude of doing nothing" (Woo-Wai). That is, nothing is done by the egoist and intellectual part of man, but by the natural instincts of the good core of man - being in harmony with nature. This attitude wouldresult in some kind of natural ethics of altruism and modesty.

This good core is not automatically identical with Jesus Christ, who can take shape in man, and is active there (John 15: "...Remain in me and I will remain in you"). But today's theologians cannot deny that persons of a different faith have a good core - the similar ethics of most religions show that "the Good" has caught on everywhere. Even the Holy Spirit "blows wherever he pleases" (John 3)."

"Taoists were always practicians, not theoreticians. Taoism makes use of:

- Asceticism. This occurs within all religions. But there are also practices for the sublimation or transformation of sexuality (e.g. Mantak Chia, "Tao Yoga" and "Tao Yoga of love". The old eastern paths often start "from the bottom to the top", unlike European/western paths, which start mainly "from the top to the bottom" today, meaning "from the consciousness".

- Exercises for body, breath, and concentration for awaking and directing the live energy, or "Chi". Since the scientific investigation of acupuncture and electro-acupuncture, the existence of that live energy has been proved. It is not important that these scientists have not yet been able to understand the exact nature of that phenomenon. The "Meridians" of acupuncture have now been proven to exist, even in the tissue, as "empty channels". So this life force is not "Taoist", as some Christians thought, but simply human. In the old Greek and early Christian era it was called "Pneuma", a Greek word meaning the breath and the life force as well - the breath of life, blown into man by God -; and it was also used to mean the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is in the context of Jesus Christ. So, if someone does not attune himself to Jesus Christ, how should he know that he is experiencing the Holy Spirit which Jesus announced?

- Furthermore, the Taoist methods include - like the Indian Yoga - the meditative absorption into the Origin, to go beyond the limitation of life. The alchemistic search for immortality plays a role too."

"Con-fu-tse (Confucius) similarly recommends people to adjust themselves to "the cosmic ethical law". But instead of the rather individualist way of the Taoists he searched for an educational system of morals for the whole society. Confucianists worked on the conscious cultivation and perfection of a good human core - by habits and by taking others as an example:

If one learns love and reverence etc., an ethical society should result.

- Since ancient times, e.g. murder, theft, prostitution and cults with images have been forbidden in China.

- Like almost all World Religions Con-fu-tse taught "... charity. Don't do what You don't want to be done" ("Do as You would have done to you")

- This includes self-control, humanity, goodness;

- respectively the ethical virtues: goodwill, legality, appropriate respectful manners (also concerning the ancestors), generosity, wisdom, uprightness;

- double qualities according to the book Shu-djing: friendly and dignified, mild and firm, straight and polite, orderly and respectful, docile and bold, upright and meek, indulgent and moderate, strong and reliable, courageous and fair.

- They strove for an attitude of contentment beyond of anger, grief and fun.

There are timeless values in the old teachings and values which were cultivated at the time of the empire."

Side: Hinduism Taoism Buddhism Pantheism
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
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Thanks for the help but, ....

"you were doing this for boy scouts, which is the reason I chose this one. It deals a lot with the ability to know god through his creations. It's a spiritual philosophy that is more dedicated to studying the watch, and appreciating the watch maker that way than reading the Bible and going to church. It's a very personal religion because you are a great part of it. You are the instrument studying the watch, basically, instead of claiming to know the watchmaker because you see the watch. "

I have to say something here, first of all not all boy scouts are Christian. Christianity is like one of 4 or 5 types of religions within BSA if I'm correct.

Also you made some assumptions about Christianity. My religion is Christian and we believe that reading the scriptures and going to church is nowhere near enough. We are actually a lot like what you described. See that's the point of this, to accept others by comparing positive similarities.

Side: Hinduism Taoism Buddhism Pantheism