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Debate Score:31
Arguments:21
Total Votes:37
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Is the Child Nutrition Bill the work of food police?

Food Police

YES

Side Score: 18
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NO

Side Score: 13

Of course, this is the work of government busybodies and overzealous parasitic lawyers. They are so bored that they feel righteous to regulate what to eat.

Side: yes
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
2 points

Of course, this is the work of government busybodies and overzealous parasitic lawyers. They are so bored that they feel righteous to regulate what to eat.

Here's the bill. What exactly in it do you find overreaching or bad for individual responsibility, or will?

Side: No
1 point

Actually, I have looked at it before, this is why I posted the question.

It puts far too much power into one man's control, the Secretary of Agriculture.

First, under Title II, NATIONAL SCHOOL NUTRITION STANDARDS

IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall—(i) establish science-based nutrition standards for foods sold in schools other than foods provided under this Act and the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act (42 U.S.C. 1751 et seq.);

Second, 1 ‘‘(B) APPLICATION.—The nutrition standards shall apply to all foods sold—(i) outside the school meal programs;(ii) on the school campus; and (iii) at any time during the school day.

Third, under Title II, Section 208(C)

In establishing nutrition standards under this paragraph, the Secretary shall—

(i) establish standards that are consistent with the most recent Dietary Guidelines for Americans published under section 301 of the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C. 5341), including the food groups to encourage and nutrients of concern identified in the Dietary Guidelines; AND

Fourth, Under Title II, Section 208(D)

‘‘(D) UPDATING STANDARDS.—As soon as practicable after the date of publication by the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Health and Human Services of a new edition of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans under section 301 of the National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act of 1990 (718 U.S.C. 5341), the Secretary shall review and update as necessary the school nutrition standards and requirements established under this subsection.

Fifth, this bill is going to cost $4.6 billion that the government doesn't have.

Sixth, it is more subsidization to poor areas for free meals and requires schools to abide by health guidelines drafted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture as clearly defined in section 208 where taxpayers have to pay the extra costs of fruits and vegetables where the federal government is reimbursing the rate for school lunches, and the children probably won't eat anyway.

Seventh, individual choices concerning food should be a personal responsibility not a government mandate because liberals are too stupid to decide what to eat without the government telling them with their ESTABLISHING STANDARDS according to some other stupid bill, oh, yea, National Nutrition Monitoring and Related Research Act.

Side: yes

Just recently in San Francisco, there was a law passed that banned McDonald's from putting toys in Happy Meals. The city had no right to do this. It is the parents responsibility to raise their children. If parents feel it is ok for their children to eat fast food then it is their choice, If parents want their children to eat healthier, then it is their choice.

Side: yes
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
2 points

There is a huge disconnect between the act of stopping McDonald's from putting toys in Happy Meals and what you're arguing here.

Side: No
1 point

It should not be the work of the federal government to mandate such things. It should be up to the sates to decide how much funding to give public schools for nutritional programs.

Side: yes

Anything where government has more control of what people eat, this is the work of the food police.

Side: yes
1 point

There is no such thing as food police, they don't exist, so no.

However, it is an attempt to get all these fat bastard kids in better shape, because apparently many parents are too busy trying to be friends with their kids to tell them they're eating like pigs.

As such, I'm all for it.

Side: No
ammccarter(43) Disputed
1 point

1. That is their right as parents, no matter how much others may not like it.

2. Why is it that everyone is all upset about the quality of food that kids eat? That is only half the issue. No one is protesting movies, tv's, or video games, campaining against such evils, saying that "The evil video game industry is making our nation's children a bunch of fatties. We should put government bans on how many are allowed per household and put timers on all computers that turn off the pc when they've been on for too long in one house." Oh the outrage there would be. But that will be the next step after they take over what everyone can eat, how much we can eat and when.

This bill is just another way for the federal government to slowly work it's way into our lives to try and take over. "For our own good"

Side: yes
Mahollinder(900) Disputed
2 points

That is their right as parents, no matter how much others may not like it.

If you're a private entity, you have to apply for the program. The government isn't forcing any individual parent or parents to feed their children nutritious food. But if they're entering a program to use taxpayer money (i.e. NOT THEIR OWN MONEY), then they should obligated to some standard of use.

Side: No
0 points

Actually, there is food police as clearly defined in the bill.

Basically, liberals are too stupid to decide what to eat without the government telling them by ESTABLISHING STANDARDS.

These fat kids need to have some self control, and the parents need to be more parental. Being parental comes with popping out an child. Some call it personal responsibility whereas you prefer, government responsibility.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

I don't have kids and I am not a kid. So no, no one is telling me to do anything.

And I'm pretty sure I'm in better shape than about 99.9% of the population, with no one telling me what to eat. So I'm not sure what your point is.

I just think there are too many fat kids, and too many stupid parents who can't say no to them. So sure, make food healthier. What the hell's wrong with being healthy?

Side: No
1 point

Personally, I support the idea of eating healthier. Since the money is taxed anyway, it may as well be spent on something useful.

Side: No