I guess it depends on what you mean by immature. Atheism is certainly the position of every child born into this world before they’re taught what to believe in or develop the capacity to contemplate such philosophical matters on their own. In that way, I suppose it could be technically considered an “immature” position in some respects.

On the contrary, if you were to only consider adults and what their thoughts are on it, considering atheism goes against a great majority of childhood indoctrination, I would think that it be very mature for a person to fight against what they’ve been taught and assume the position that there are no gods. It is a more honest position and doesn’t cling to emotion the way holding on to a belief in gods does; it just looks at the facts and says “ok, well until its proven I will suspend belief in the matter.”

As far as pantheism, I see it as kind of a new age philosophy in an era where the big religions are fading and atheism is being shown as the more rational approach. I’ve known many pantheists, ranging from those who believe in a strict form of a deity which would still burden them for proof to those who believe in a deity or divinity with such a loose interpretation that literally anything could be regarded as god making practical proof an impossibility. It’s sometimes hard to let go of ALL you’ve known since you were a kid so it’s not surprising that so many people adopt this idea that… “Ok, maybe X religion doesn’t have the right view about god…. But maybe this is god, or maybe the universe in its entire splendor is god,” instead of just accepting that “there is no proof, until it is shown, I will not believe.”

Being pantheistic myself, I can honestly admit that this could very well be the case for me as well. I adopt a very loose interpretation of what god is or divinity is. With such a loose interpretation, it’s hard to prove wrong, which I think is what my subconscious did in order to cope with the emotion of letting go of the belief in god and heaven. In that sense I would consider pantheism the more immature position for an adult to assume in comparison to atheism.

I see this possibility and yet I have no resentment in admitting that my view is somewhat immature, but until I have factual evidence to prove my belief I must confess that I am clinging on to something that quite possibly may be wrong. One must wonder why.

I don't think so. Primarily because God cannot be fathomed. One cannot fathom infinity and its concepts.

Romans 3:11 - there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God.

Nobody understands God. Thus nobody can have a better understanding than someone else about God.

Atheists answer to the theist's idea of what God is, they don't make one themselves, because that would make them theists.

I'm going to say false.

What, exactly, is a 'mature' idea of God?

No we have a more realistic idea about God. People just don't want to accept and instead rebel against us for speaking so true.

I would think Pantheism is less mature. If we are talking about maturity as how thought out the idea is. Pantheism associates everything with god, which seems like a very basic idea, one that is endorsed by Theists. Theists have developed a concept where god has been "concentrated" and given properties. Doesn't that require more maturation of the idea?

I think anyone who identifies as atheist, has the idea that god doesn't exist.

"Most atheists have a very immature idea of what god is...."

First of all, there is no proof there is a god, so believing in something that isn't proven is immature.

Second, with all the vast amount of scientific research and millions of dollars spent to find out more about humans and the world, theists STILL ignore these facts to believe in their still "unproven" god.

You think atheists are immature? I think ignorance is immature.

A more accurate way to phrase this debate is: Most atheists have a very immature idea of what/who the "blank" god is. Atheist don't hold a belief in any gods, so we can only evaluate the claims of gods we are presented.

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My position is that most atheists have an immature idea of the Christian god, but that is a result of most Christians presenting an immature idea of the Christian god to them. While this idea may be theologically immature, it is an accurate idea in the context of the Christians that hold it.

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If you were referring to a different god, I would be happy to address it.

I think most atheists ponder for long periods about the existence of God.