I never said religion was rational, religion is propaganda. (IMO) So wouldnt it be rational to wonder HOW all this stuff came to be? And if you dont believe in god you could just believe in the multiverse theory, or string theory, but god does not have to be a person, god could just be the force that keeps our blood pumping, wither way, there was some creative force to everything that has come into the universe.

Well you will probably call it ego defense, but when youre left alone to ponder lifes mysteries you usually come across god

of course theres no arguments for it, stupid white people lol jk <3

But im white so i can say it, fine 99% of white people are not the best

But the title says white people are the best, which isnt really fact or false...

Youre obviously blind to what white people have done to the world

White people are the devil, without us, the world would be much more sophisticated

No he was an ascended master, who could manipulate reality by being on such a high vibrational level

Well, I would say that I have enough insight to realize my symptoms, and whether or not theyre true, they have been getting far more pronounced. I'm extremely spiritual, yet i was raised without god. My whole life ive felt a greater calling, which is to backpack around the world and heal people, I believe that god created us because you would probably get lonely all by yourself and my guess is that he wanted to see how other things thought and the reason he doesnt intervene in our lives is because that would tamper with the results, much like a scientist doesnt interfere in his experimentts (unless absolutely necessary (miracles)), i dont believe the devil is an actual entity, more of mans interpretation of mans temptation to do evil things, i believe we have been horribly lied too about our origins, i see the world as being puppeteered to accept the mayan prophecy but twist it to make it seem like prophecy came true, and then dupe us all and we'll see another nazi germany in the next few years but in far worse effects. I dont believe you have to go through jesus to get to god, and i believe you can have a personal relationship with god, i look at god as just another soul like me with different values and morals, i think we landed on the moon but they replaced the actual photos with staged photos (neil armstrong reported a heavy alien presence on the moon) I think about if i actually am ill and am just crazy for thinking these things (better safe than sorry i guess?) cuz up until modern times schizophrenics, or any children who possessed "psychic" gifts got the choice of whether to accept the call of a shaman or not. But with all this damn govt mind control and false lies and materialism taking over, idk, i believe we can all reach "god" status, and be the master of our own realities, but only through transcedental meditation, which they should take out PE and put in meditation in schools. And i dont trust doctors diagnoses because 1. theyre probably working against me, and 2 people consider us crazy so of course theyre gonna scoff at us. Ill go consult a spiritual guru (a real one, not these american gypsies) and see what my purpose is.... i want to get the hell out of america, live off the land, and revolutionize the world, i think alot of people who go to the spirit world receive the turth about our origins, and then dilute it with their own biases, so i am practicing to go to the spirit world to sede whats up.... ya.... so much for a debate? lolz

Im spiritual, becuase if anything has taught us anything, its spiritual truths, without shamans, we would not be where we are today (which would probably be in a worse setting) and spirituality can back up its claims and you can test them yourself. It takes a lot of practice and focus, but its the most proof you will ever receive, direct experience beats out all books, and all "historical facts" that we have learned about our past

Following our instincts without emotional thought or logic is probably what got is into horrible situations, and besides, dont tell me you never regretted not listening to your gut instinct, everyone regrets that.

I didnt say christianity was rational, and im not religious, i dont trust religion, im just saying its irrational to deny your own human nature, thats like destroying your psyche, people dont understand that to believe in god you just have to believe, thats it, it doesnt require you to sell your soul, you dont have to take a huge long test, you dont even have to think about god at all, just acknowledging him and bringing good to others is enough to be in gods "favor" Religion is a form of control, none of the stories make sense when given alot of thought, and yes, the god in the bible is highly contradictory, but the fact remains, is that they still believe in some type of god, some type of creative life force behind everything

Havent you ever heard of occams razor? Pascals wager? If god DOES exist, and you dont believe in him, you are losing EVERYTHING, but if he doesnt and you still believe in him you lose nothing, that to me is illogical thinking, how do you explain HOW the big bang came into existence? How ALL the materials came into existence? Its just deductive reasoning, and to be honest, believing god doesnt exist is more wishful thinking than believing god exists

Try arguing as an atheist? LOL PLEASE you have it SOOOOO easy, im spiritual, and i have proofs to back my claims, its called transcedental meditation "oh its just a chemical reaction in the brain" ya well when everyone reports of the same experiences in different states of conciousness, something is linking them, oh wait could this be the spirit world? :O and our bodies are matter, which is energy vibrating at a low level, energy doesnt die, when we die, our energy will carry on, so yes, there is much more to life than this, and to get back to my reply to you, i have tried arguing as an atheist, whenever i try to think of the world coming about naturally, i feel a hole in my heart, but when i think about god that hole gets filled with a special feeling, and arguing as an atheist is easy cuz you have "logic" to back you up, well im sorry but god+logic=0, you get nothing out of it, logic helps us here in the material world, but the material world is so boring and non fulfilling, its a distraction really.

Yes, religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" atheists have beliefs pertaining to the universe. Yes, atheism is technically a religion.

I understand predestination and predetermination, but saying we have no free will is silly, the story of adam and eve says right in the beginning that god gave them free will

no thats a load of BS, if there is no free will, then there is a divine plan, that means that no matter what we do, it was meant to happen that way, so those who are doomed to hell were put into this life to suffer, great thinking

BF is way better than CoD, BF3 wasnt as great as it could have been, but CoD sucks, its fun, its just way too easy

Happiness wasnt invented to make us buy things? happiness is a feeling you get when youre doing what you like...

Because its human nature to search for god, and if its part of our nature, the urge is there for a reason, maybe god is just an ego defense, but i think its alot more to it than that, and alot of scientists dont like to admit they believe in god because they dont want to be ridiculed by their fellow peers.

I highly suggest you read the language of god, its a fascinating book.

this debate is gonna end up going nowhere, all i can say, is rely on your intuition and your feeling to find god, thats why he gave us spiritual tools

Yes, because its natural to him, the better question is would god consider himself natural or supernatural? and thats just mindboggling

just because our definitions of god are that god is supernatural, doesnt mean he is, god is completely natural, but our tiny brains cant comprehend something of that nature being natural, so we call it supernatural.