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I honestly cannot agree or disagree with the proposition - why can't we supplement meditation along with physical activities? Do we only have room for one of the two in the classrooms?
Well I don't necessarily think meditation should replace P.E, but i definitely think it would be a great idea for schools to offer meditation to those who want to do it.
Yes, P.E CAN be stressful and competitive but it actually helps the mind. Exercise releases a hormone called "endorphins" which is a feel good chemical that can also help deal with depression.
meditation also releases endorphins and releases dimethyltryptamine too, and seratonin, and i can say through personal experience meditation makes you feel WAY better than exercising
Your personal experience is not the same as everyone else's. I just don't understand why you are trying to say meditation is better than physical fitness. As others have suggested, why not have both? You say you'd prefer a healthy mind over a fit body? Be careful what you wish for; when you get too fat to move you'll have little else to do besides meditate where you lay.
Meditation can benefit the body, I agree. However, it should not replace P.E. Here are the reasons why:
1. It will be hard to get children and teenagers to meditate properly. Yes some will, but i can guarantee that many will either laugh, talk or protest against it as it is an activity which involves remaining calm and silent.
2. P.E helps maintain fitness, and fitness is part of sustaining a healthy body. Obesity and many other conditions are apparent and if meditation gets preference then those conditions will become even MORE apparent. And sick people costs money. Who pays for them to go to hospital? The tax payer. Yes, i am aware that some people will still exercise if your proposition was enforced BUT P.E encourages exercise, without it less children will be being taught about exercising which (as stated previously) is likely to add to the obesity rate (and other conditions too, such as diabetes.)
But through meditation you can increase your metabolism, and you learn to eat less, it helps you focus, which would help kids in school, i do realize it would be hard to get children to sit and meditate, but when they have an experience they will WANT to meditate, and through meditation you dont get sick as often, and with meditation we realize the finer things in life dont require money so this could change our entire society as a whole, all of humanity, hell if we all meditated, we would be a very healthy race.
And plus children should be outdoors playing, not sitting in front of the TV and computer, meditation will let them realize the joys of nature
How does mediation make you realize the finer things in life? I mean yes it is good for the mind and body but realizing the finer things in life?
How is it going to make children realize the joys of nature? I mean you can meditate anywhere, which could even be in a dark room...and one is not realizing the joys of nature when in a dark room meditating.
P.E provides many different activities which to a lot of children is very stimulating. Where as meditation is quite restricting, there's only one thing to do and that's meditate. Unlike with P.E. With P.E, there's running, soccer, basketball etc.
turst me it does, it makes you connect with everyone around you and empatrhize with the world, especially those who dont have it so well
Meditation just connects you to the world, and if you realize that we are polluting the hell out of it, you will stop wasting so much and start recycling and conserving
i think they would be able to do it, hell i know throughout all my school years i wish we had nap time still LOL, kids wanna sit around and do nothing, besides talking, but if we give them meditation, theyll be happy to sit around and rest and do nothing, especially in high school too, it could change the world :O
Its only thanks to PE,that teenagers remain fit and healthy.Sure,meditation is healthy for the mind - but if you had to choose,i'm sure you'd choose a healthy body over a healthy mind.
No, PE does not help obesity, theres tons of obesity today and weve had PE for a long time its time to start changing it, we have after school sports that kids can do, PE is such a joke, seriously, no kid takes PE seriously, honetly if you believe they do, that makes me laugh, and also, i would easily choose a healthy mind over a healthy body, mind over matter and meditation lowers heart rate AND cholestrol, so really, its a win win situation, oh ya also, it would help cut back pregnancy and underage sex and unprotected sex if anything, kids would learn that life isnt about material objects and having sex 24/7 seriously...
You are assuming kids who are forced to take a meditation class would actually take it seriously and do it properly versus thinking about sex under the guise of meditation.
Also, I fail to see how meditation would cut back on underage sex and unprotected sex. Where are you coming up with this? (Your own personal experience can't speak for everyone else).
well ok... is that realy all kids think about these days is sex? jesus, thats sad
Trust me, when you meditate you learn to respect nature, its a given, no matter what, if you dont learn to respect nature, then youre doing it wrong, which is extremely hard to do
Stop it! Goddammit i've seen about a dozen of these "meditation should replace" things. No, no they shouldn't. Physical education has been placed in the educational system for a reason. I'm sure if meditation was better than P.E. than someone would have done something about it. Any way, why?! P.E. is good for you, not only is it good for the physical health, you also learn how to do loads of sports, which is good in the social world. Someone asks you if you'd like to play rugby at the weekend, i don't think " Well, how about we meditate instead" is a better answer. Stop trying to replace things with religion! It doesn't work. I don't see how science, geography, or P.E. would be better off replaced by sitting in an uncomfortable position, saying "om."
its not religion, its focusing on the now, so it can be applied to sports also, focusing on that basket, breathing correctly, when was the last time anyone took PE seriously? Oh thats right never.
Plus instead of sports we could go on nature hikes, and run trails up mountains and down mountains, much better, and keeps you in way better shape and it makes you feel ALIVE.
And i never said science or anything else should be replaced by meditation i said they should be enhanced by meditation... and ya PE can be fun, but seriosuly, noone takes it seriously, and if you DO take PE seriously youre obviously a jock, so if youre a jock, you could learn alot and apply meditation to your sports, focusing on getting that one basket, focusing on making the game change...
Oh i do love assumptions like that! No sir i am not a jock. I prefer track running, i'm fast, but i'm not a sporty person! Not much else to say apart from that which i have already said! And i can safely say with great reassurance from everyone that knows me, i am not a jock. I don't like rugby, football, badminton (hockey is OK i suppose) but no. If you like meditation, then fine. i don't know if you're still in school, but i know lots of people would object!
oh really? lots of people would object to sitting around doing nothing in school? Really? last i checked students are always complaining and would much rather do nothing in class, than learn. And with meditation, it would help tremendously, reduce stress, help creativity, spur imagination, stay focused, learn to love, less bullying, better eating, better health, better everything...
Umm, no again! I am not sure which school you go to, but in my school we would all rather learn about Genghis Khan or what caused world war 2, instead of sitting around doing nothing! I think learning equations, knowing how to use toe correct grammar ( i know i don't i don;'t have tome to read back through) and learning a second language is far more useful in life than enlightenment!
wow if this is what our society believes, that enlightenment is not important, well then i feel sorry for the age that i have been born into, if you would rather be kept in the dark, thats up to you, i like to be in the light of wisdom
If you want to live int he light of wisdom, then by all means do! For all i know you could have it spot on and i've had it wrong all these years (not very long actually...) But anyway, what i wold like is to colonise some small island somewhere in the Bahamas and just me, with a group of about 50 live off the land. That would be nice! There, now we both know what we want :L Anyway, i have to go now, so i can't complete this paragraph fully, but i'm not sure what you call enlightenment, whether it's knowing the absolute truth, or the path to complete happiness, or what. All i know, is if i lead a good life on earth now, ill be happy about it when i die. And that will be that. I do not believe in heaven or hell ( i will not go in depth at this either, look at some of my other arguments if you want to know my religious status..!) I too feel sorry for the age i have been born in to. It's falling apart. Global warming, over population, continents starving, impending wars..! What was that life of Brian song again?!
PE is more measurable - participation, team work, performance gain over time, etc.
It would be very difficult to grade a meditation class - would probably be fine as an after school activity, replacing study hall, homeroom or similar.
but noone would do it if it was an after school activity, it should be a whole new class in itself, graded by what you got out of your daily session, and there would be no failing.
I'm ok with it being elected instead of homeroom or study hall during school hours (or, even better, just take study hall and meditate instead and save us from paying a extra teacher to babysit) - no grade should be assigned without better criteria.
Meditation can be useful, but it shouldn't replace P.E. because they serve different purposes.
A certain level of physical fitness is important for everybody, and good habits should be established early. There are obvious health, mobility, and self-esteem benefits, and results are easily measurable. PE classes also happen when kids are young and active.
Meditation can be useful, but it's the kind of activity that one must want to do in order for it to be effective. Someone required to meditate as part of a program would likely not take it seriously, especially a teenager. It could perhaps be an elective class instead of a PE replacement, but there is little point in having a class teach something that can be learned and practiced at home.
meditation totally defeats the purpose of physical education. P.E isn't made to make someones mind to be less stressed (its why we have guidance consuelors) its to get over high population of obese people to lose weight and atheletes to hone their skills. Plus you can meditate at any given time during lunch, before and after school, and when you get home! This is by far one of the most astonishing questions I have witnessed :(
and how are you graded on meditation? How are you assessed on meditation? How is the state suppose to explain the course. Do you think kids will do this OVER AND OVER? Do you think kids would choose meditating or playing a fun game of basketball or a sport they like? Do you think kids will meditate for a hour long period without talking to friends? How do you suspect kids to react to this? How is meditating going to reduce obesity since now that P.E (the main method of obesity reduction) is not a course. Its required for all counties to make a establishment to make their students have at least 15 minutes of activity of physical behavior. How is meditating going to fulfill this 15 minutes as establish in not only in Orange County (where I live) but in your location?
Answer ALL of these questions and you got my ballot. Prove me wrong :3
Plus site your sources because you got that information from Wikipedia. Exactly the last paragraph of "Scientific Studies." (Wikipedia isn't a creditable source F.Y.I.)
ok, first of all wikipedia cites it resources, so if you dont trust it, go the source it came from, i chose wikipedia because if i wouldve pulled up any other examples i would have been flamed.
Thye could easily grade you, if you dont sit still and relax and meditate, youll fail the class, thats a great grading process, its like nap time, but staying awake during it.
Yes i honestly believe kids will do this over and over because its an amazing feeling and its fun to do. P.E. doesnt work bro, we still have obese kids everywhere, we need to get rid of soda, i have never dranken a soda in my life, thank god that i havent lol, and im skinny as a twig.
I suspect kids to react to this with mockery but when they actually try it theyll be like wow this is an awesome feeling as it allows me to collect my thoughts, organize them, think about my life, whatever.
The explanation of the course is easy: Sit with your back straight, and breathe in deep, in and out through your nose and focus on your breathing. Or whatever else you wanna focus on, but the breathing is the most important part of meditation, proper breathing makes a huge difference.
We need some fucking discipline in our kids, so they should sit there and shut their mouths or else they will fail, that is NOT hard to do.
You are assessed on meditation by the experiences you learn, you learn that there is no failing, only more learning and understanding.
These sources are common knowledge sources because they work for everyone the exact same way, no matter who you are.
Plus we can introduce the chakra system into school, and you want evidence of chakras? close your eyes and go through the different colors of the rainbow, you can feel them, but you have to be ina mindset to feel them first, you have to focus on them.
Chakras are a main part of meditation, as they make up our body parts and determine our health.
1.) Wikipedia isn't use for information but as a briefing.
2.) What??? That is not evening fulfilling 1/23 elements needed for a class establishment!!! If they are graded on 1 attribute then it defeats the concept on learning and "nap time???" You go to school to learn not to get to sleep. You fail to tell me how the students will be tested, homework, and assessed state-wise. What? You think just simply participating will fulfill the required needs for a class? Then everyone would take the class, screw the meditation, and talk about how the IPhone 5.
3.) That is a opinion to think of a child's mind. And last time we took the opinion of a teacher on children we only made things worse by adding augmented tests (FCAT is now harder because teachers think kids found it too easy.) And if you blame soda for obesity then I will easily say this: "isn't too much of anything bad?" I am skinny too, but I love dark chocolate almond bars! Want to know why I am not fat? Its not because of the soda.... Its because I chose to drink too much soda. See obesity is just like guns! Guns don't kill people, People kill other people. Food doesn't force people to be fat we chose to eat food. P.E teaches kids to regulate on what they eat and learn to be smart when eating! Meditating all day won't do shit on helping the obese because right after meditating they will go back to eating again (thus the stress comes back and the meditating becomes pointless.)
4.) So all I am doing for 180 something days is sitting on a pillow. Google a class structure and the establish requirement rubric for a class to be initial. Because, a teacher can easily give a "A" everyday for a student. Classes are not meant to be a peice of cake, you need effort. Meditating needs no effort, it needs spare time and a yoga mat.
5.) So they need to sit down and shut their mouths? So what happen to one of the most BIGGEST portions of school policy. Students MUST collaborate with others! They must learn from each other by working together through assignments and classwork. What you just said is just mere B.S.
6.) No failing? Your being a hippie! No failing basically means if one makes a mistake they will never learn from it because now your saying "hey you messed up but its okay because you won't fail!" Plus, I am un-optimistic, meditating doesn't work for everyone so basically it can't be forced upon students. P.E can be because the state requires students to workout. You can blame Michelle Obama all you want but she did a good choice to make us kids get our butts outside and play.
7.) Nope! I don't see that written in the big ole book of Common Sense. But on page 292093 it says that people who are disable and unable to breathe naturally can't do meditating. As well, depression status can go to such heights where meditation only makes things worse (it forces stimuli to remember the events that brought the depression.) So, I am pretty sure (using common sense) that not everyone is capable of doing this.
8.) Close your eyes and see a rainbow. I am sorry but you can't also force me to be gay! And why rainbows? Plus this chakra system sounds like cheap oriental termnology from people who are enlighten! That is forcing of religion!
9.) Chakra is the main part of meditation!?!?!?!?! You got to be kidding me.... Because now you put this situation to a level I can't feel comfortable speaking about :l
1) and the article i gave briefs you on the research that has been done on meditation...
2) Who cares about that shit? We need change in our world, and this is a great place to start. And i used nap time as a reference, you could easily give homework for it- what have you learned about yourself ands life? this class would be a self exploration and life exploration class....
3) Soda is disgusting it eats away at your bones
4) Meditation requires a hell of a lot of effort to stay focused and not break concentration and be able to stay observant of your surroudnings and not get distracted, meditation can never be fully mastered because you always learn more. there is a technique to proper meditation and successful meditation.
5) No what i said is not mere bullshit, because if you hadnt notice teachers always tell students to sit down and be quiet and focus. so its really not bullshit. You could turn a meditation class into something very useful: how can we all work together to improve our society? Doesnt get more cooperative than that... students can share experiences and ideas, teachers can give things to think about and meditate on and then students can work together to bring new ideas to the limelight...
6) I said there is no failing but there is learning and undertsanding, so you contradicted yourself in this statement by not acknowledging what i said. You cant fail at learning about yourself and the world around you dumbass, everyones opinion matters, meditation can teach this. And how can P.E be forced upon people who have disabilities and cant breathe properly? listen to yourself
7) then they can do different techniques to focus on, its not common sense its common knowledge to all practitioners of meditation, and if you cant breathe properly you will most likely not be in school but in a hospital... Meditation teaches you how to cope with depression and move past it, trust me on this one, i plan on teaching people these things so i know what im talking about when it comes to meditation, im not a master, as we are all masters of it, but i know the ins and outs of it, and im explaining to you what ive been doing for almost 2 years, so...ya. Noone said meditation was a walk in the park, you may come upon repressed feelings but as we know, its not healthy at all to keep feelings hidden and bottled up. Call it self therapy...
8.) No dumbass, not see a rainbow, imagine the colors of the rainbow, as opur chakras react to different frequencies and are assigned colors, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet and white.
The chakra system is not a religion, its part of our body...............
Wow you are ignorant, meditating on your chakras energizes your body and keeps you healthy...
dont even bother to argue back with me cuz im not going to reply to you.
Don't worry you don't need to reply because guess what...
ITS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
Your just believing in personal values and that one must succeed by doing things the EASY way. Your pathetic and all your trying to promote is a the dumb concept of relaxation. I didn't go to school to get a phD on meditation dumbshit XD
Now go meditate and relax your nerves because I can see I boiled you up pretty good :D
I know i said i wouldnt reply to you but your not arguing against me, you fail to realize meditation can be applied in all aspects of anything, as it helps clear your mind and organize your thoughts, meditation goes way deeper than just relaxing, we should work smarter not harder
I disagree. There is no accurate grading method for meditation. There is no way to know what's going on in the student's minds, which is the primary purpose of meditation.
With P.E. we can physically see what they're doing, how they're participating, and grade them accordingly. But the overwhelming majority of what meditation encompasses, is almost entirely inside the mind.
Students don't take P.E. as seriously as they should anyways. I have a feeling they'll take meditation even less seriously, because to an outside observer there is nothing involved but sitting down and closing your eyes. I imagine it might lead to students sleeping during "meditation".
I have analysis all of Feelingtruth's responses and clearly all s/he thinks is that meditating is more effective than P.E and that it will show better results. Instant reasons why s/he is wrong is easy!
-Never uses creditable resources. (Wikipedia? Didn't take any actual time to go on FDA resource site...)
-Claims that meditation is something everyone can succeed in while the concept of school is to learn not just get a free period to sit.
-Meditation is already a part of fine arts. Its within the class of HOPE. So really its completely idiotic to replace P.E if meditating is a part of P.E (a really useless part too.)
-Finally, feelingtruth has no methodology of grading by just only grading posture and participation. Hello? Meditation is not even big enough to be a lesson for a week! Having 2 things to grade is also foolish! Overall, there is no value or essential use of meditating. Its a hobby not a academic class.
P.E is something every child needs. Those who are disable and/or handicap still have the choice of P.E. They have special needs training which helps those who are disable get fit! So in general, P.E will always win over meditation the question: Should Meditation be replace by Yoga! SCREW meditation; Yoga is WAY more efficient by mental means. BY influencing body limbs to extract stress out of your body is mind blowing. Meditation isn't always perfected and when is perfected probably becomes useless because you don't get a major in sitting down and saying "ooommm." You get a major in law studies so we can remove this meditation concept with yoga.
Yoga IS meditation dude... so case in point, you dont know what youre talking about, when it comes to this kind of thing, its the one thing im highly knowledgeable in
B.S then why didn't you mention it through your whole contention why didn't mention it through the other responses you have? And now that I got your attention again :3 I am still not convince about your grading methodology. Plus why do you have to remove P.E? If you are against P.E that is totally irrelevant because P.E is a ordeal made by the school establishment. All you say is that your logic is irrelevant to school executives and you have no perfected way to assess the students. No one is going to take the class because it has nothing to do for their high school credits (I forgot all about credits!) why do I need a class that isn't even worth the job description for any job. Overall, I don't care about all this zen shit. If I meditate thinking about having a good day and the next minute I get a call saying my relatives passed away, meditation isn't gonna do shit.
because there are tons of different forms of meditation, yoga is one of them, i say meditation because it covers all the forms of it which is just being in tune with yourself and the world around you, we dont have to remove P.E. Im saying its a bullshit class because it doesnt help shit, noone takes that class seriousy, noone wants to run laps in 45 degree weather or 110 degree weather just so they can hate their lifes and teachers and keep building up stress because they arent doing the excercises well enough, and stress literally kills you. If P.E was so effective why the hell do we still have obesity? BECAUSE IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING
At least with meditation you are forced to realize your downfalls and then its up to you to fix them or not, it allows you to help you learn how to better your life, what you can do to get better grades, how you can reach your goals, plus it strengthens your brain, which is used everyday all day.
You dont need this class but it would definitely be more beneficial than P.E. is...
Also, if you get a call saying your relatives passed away, P.E. wouldnt do shit either, so i dont know why you even said that last part, at least meditation will teach you how to cope and move on with your life.
replace means take over and eliminate the prior subject,
nuff said. So, yea, you did say remove P.E from school system.
You still never identify your grading methodology which I know your avoiding. P.E is something you can assess:
-Homework
-workout log
-Classwork
-Workouts
-Play games
- Do fitness tests
-Take the OCPS health and fitness test
-Project
-Make a dance and perform it with friends
-Make your own sport. (Mat kickball was one of me and my pals inventions back in high school.)
- Actual Exam
-Health and Fitness Test
-Incorperation of health associated skills relay (this proves how the child progress in the year)
- Extra credit
-Meditate for 10 minutes at home and comeback with a report describing your journey
You see... You don't replace P.E. with something as minor and hard to assess like meditation. A pupil can turn in a workout log without doing the work but the parent must sign it so you can't say they wont do their homework. Plus, meditation has no exams of any sort and has nothing to assess about. THERE IS NO FACTUAL STUDY MATERIAL JUST MORALS AND RELIGIOUS ANECDOTES! You must have some type of lexicon to study and be ready to be assess on. And don't tell me the history of meditation because that is one portion of meditation. In HOPE there is 8 sessions you must complete. Meditation is just a sub-category under flexibility. See, its not a "concept" which you fail to prove. Make me list of a grading methodology, chapters of meditations, projects, homework (can't say meditation log because the parent won't be able to be in your child's mind but they can "SEE" their child workout), classwork, and extra credit assignments and you fulfill 1/2 of the whole concept of Meditation. Next you will have to prove credits but I want to see if you can even do this.
I already identified my methodology- if you dont think it would work thats your problem, but we cant stick to traditions and old ways any longer. WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR WAYS OF THINKING AND LOOKING AT THE WORLD.
The best way to do this is to take failing out of the picture altogether, why should you fail for voicing your opinion? Im talking about revolution in our education system, not the same bullshit that has been going on for years that we all hate and hate and hate and want to change, this is a start to changing it.
Meditation increases your health, this is a proven fact. you want resources? here:
You keep thinking our society is advancing into a brute force society where matter is more important than the mind. This is not the way to go, we need to stop glorifying our physical looks and start glorifying who we are as human beings.
We are becoming an intellectual society, not a strength society, we are moving into the technological era of vast discoveries and space exploration, sports will not help us accomplish this, but meditation will help us focus on the advancement of our well being.
First, you clearly disregarded my main question but that is because you aren't able to answer due to the fact you are incapable to reflect. But fine we will go your route but you failed to make the grading methodology yet I was able too easily make, and I am not even a teacher. You say that we need to change our perspective of looking at the world. You never say this in economic, political, or logical way. You just say the world's current views need to change. No one is going to care about your bias opinion because not everyone agrees with formatting our current plans. You want to change this by defaulting all the current plans that we progressed on and replace it with mystical and serene actions? Let me clarify because not only are you making this bias nonsense you misfired on my contention.
First, I don't judge the obese by their look but by their life. Don't you dare say that I dislike those who don't have busting abs or biceps. That was a low blow and first of all never said such. Plus, how does that incorporate "brute force." Now your just sounding like a ignorant life activist. I like to live, I like to stay on this Earth as long as possible. How do I do that? Eat healthy, be active, and maintain a healthy diet. What people fail to do is keep that daily commitment. And all of a sudden you want that to end because that is a "brute force" social world? I am astounded and laughing at this logic, you presume people to love themselves as human beings but how is that going to work out when you have diabetes because of your obesity! If you think and believe through meditation that your diabetes will go away. Congrats! The stress is gone but just because your metabolism is higher doesn't mean the fat goes away automatically. The metabolism basis upon the Lipids still require the needed exercising to extract the excess lipids into burnt off energy(according to Nelson, David L.; Michael M. Cox (2005). Lehninger Principles of Biochemistry. New York: W. H. Freeman and company. pp. 841. ISBN 0-7167-4339-6.) Plus working out is in fact just as stress relieving as meditation. Working out breaks the concept of the minds worries through the bulk and energy flow of the workout and makes one smarter as well (Hertzog C, Kramer AF, Wilson S, Lindenberger U. (2008). "Enrichment Effects on Adult Cognitive Development: Can the Functional Capacity of Older Adults Be" (PDF). Psychological Science in the Public Interest 9 (1): 1–65. doi:10.1111/j.1539-6053.2009.01034.x. Retrieved 2009-07-07)
So overall, the concept of meditation is useless if workouts are just as effective.
"We are becoming a intellectual society, not a strength society..." First we (the U.S) are the primary role models for India and China our current economic rival, so we strive on everything and not just intellect! Plus we never progress on one uniform trait or that would be naive of a great nation like us. We strive on everything we do. And if anything our intellectual society is a messed up world. Ranging from stem cell research to cancer studies, do you think that is the basis of intellect: just medicine and technology. You stay ignorant on those 2 terms while I explain how intellect isn't just brains! First of all, if meditation falls under flexibility your saying that we need to move away from meditation due to the fact it relates to physical activity (or your lying about yoga due to the fact yoga is under your term "brute force.") Intellectual sports involve basketball and the the intellect of degree management of shooting a ball, the physological ability of prediction of player's movements, etc. Football is the exact same thing but tossing the ball. Soccer is the exact same thing but with the legs. Thus, using "common sense" your terms of society are contradicting your overall appeal. Make up your mind! If Meditation a physical activity (yoga) is made to replace P.E then your basically contradicting it by saying we need more intellect by staying away from physical activity which voids meditation.
Overall, I hear these fragments traced along with broken logic. You have the amendment to speak free of your personal morals and thoughts but whether its heard or not is totally irrelevant. Your links did nothing to show how to make it to a actual class so your just showing me nothing. Then you falsely accuse me for judging the obese by saying I look at society by their "looks." As well, you talk about brute force vs. intellect but is easily contradicted by the fact the two are instantly related and not different. Thus, I can commit in my final focus that all your saying literally is broken logic with fragments. The fragments being the incomplete structure of your contentions WITHOUT USEFUL proof and that the broken logic of me thinking about the obese as ugly people and "brute force vs. intellect."
If you known what the first lady does to help our school system in health wise she didn't incorporate meditation because its foolish to have such thing as a actual class! Who actually would pass a bill of having meditation as a class for STUDENTS! We are talking about STUDENTS. Frankly its all about THEM and what THEY think. Meditation and P.E will have equal amounts of slackers no matter how much fun you make it! Meditation isn't any stronger than P.E overall and you fail to prove how by making a grading method for your class. I showed you the format but you simply disregard. Thus, I can say case closed & good night.
Well thats great, but last time I checked P.E. doesnt open you up to the cosmic energies of the universe, which is the main thing meditation is used for, allowing us to go from an alpha frequency to beta, theta, and delta frequencies.
You see, our chakras are energy centers which take in and release frequencies and vibrations, which affect us in many ways, many, many ways. This is a fact, we are affected by frequencies, and the way we pick them up is through energy centers.
You judge the obese by their life? see thats the problem right there, who are you to judge someone elses life? I never said you dislike those who dont have "busting abs or biceps" Where did i ever imply this?
You look at parts of problems and fix them individually, which is great, its efficient, but it is not as efficient as looking at the whole picture and fixing it that way.
You dont realize your mind is capable of controlling your entire body, but you need to be in the proper frequency to control it completely. You can force your cells to work just like if they were exercising through physical work.
I never said meditation is seperate from doing physical activities, this i swhy we have extracurricular activities. School should be a center for learning, did you learn anything from P.E. that you could apply in your life that you didnt already know? I highly doubt it.
I dont stay ignorant on medicine and technology, our body is capable of maintaining itself without the external influence of man made drugs that are handed out like they are candy to fix problems when all they do is complicate things on a deeper level.
If our society was living in a beta frequency, reality would be like a dream, which is not fantasy, but it would become our reality.
This is what 2012 is all about, getting back in touch with our natural frequencies and learning to work with them. You can enter the state of deep sleep in a waking consciousness, but it takes a lot more work than running laps around a track and being yelled at.
So overall, no, meditation is actually much more useful than workouts because putting ourselves in a different frequency is something working out can not do.
I honestly dont understand what the hell you are trying to say, yoga is the same technique as meditation all you are doing is going into different poses to stay awake and remain alert.
Its not foolish to have meditation as an actual class, as it would increase our minds productivity and we would become more spiritual as we were in the past, but we would also be abe to incorporate that into what we already know, the possibilities are endless.
Im going to stop arguing with you not because i have lost the debate, but because you do not understand what meditation is truly used for, as you can tell by my profile picture, i have it as a merkaba. Meditation allows us to activate our merkabas, which is our energy field, and since all energy comes from the same source, when you meditate, you realize that this is true, because you can feel it and you will see it in action. Just because you can not measure something doesnt mean it doesnt exist, that is foolish thinking.
meditation expands your consciousness, it connects you to everything around you, and last time i checked, there is nothing detrimental to that as a society.
If i was a teacher i would give you a grading method, but i am not, i do not focus on grades, because as i have already stated, i am focused on the whole picture, and not just parts of it, which is the difference between right brain and left brain thinking. This is why females make no sense to males and males get frustrated by females. We need to learn to look at the big picture of things. There is nothing wrong with a feminist society, the hippy movement was started by feminists, so you are telling me that living a life of peace and ease is just stupid, well i find that kind of reasoning a burden to the advancement of a society that is always at war and conflict and is stuck to a schedule.
By just the intro, I know I will have a hell of time cutting off once again a bad and faulty case. And what the hell? You still fail to answer my question of grading methodology! You are constantly flowing your answers to benefits not the class representation! You simply cannot do this because its impossible for you to do so without coming out to sound like a idiot. I will give you one more chance before I just give up due to your complete foolish and rash impact to my contentions. You have no causation or correlation! Thus, I will just easily takedown this case just like the prior ones.
"You judge the obese by their life? see thats the problem right there, who are you to judge someone elses life? I never said you dislike those who dont have "busting abs or biceps" Where did i ever imply this?" -feelingtruth
-By far the second worse mistake you made in your contentions.
- First you say I judge people on their life... Explain this, from your response!:
"This is not the way to go, we need to stop glorifying our physical looks and start glorifying who we are as human beings."
Not only do you judge me on physical orientation and appearance you later say we need to judge people by their lifes. THE EXACT CONCEPT YOU SAID THAT I NEED TO STOP SAYING! Do you know why I care about the obese peoples life? Its because nuts like you who believe that people like I are trying to outcast the obese because we don't glorify their life. I judge the obese not by their life or looks. I judge them by their willpower. If they give-up on themselves then they have given in. For you to try to shift my ethics to sound like I am a typical jock, I am not shocked. Why? Because you don't know me and I don't know you. First of all, stop saying "judging" because who are you to judge ME! You judge me about my ethics saying that I speak upon their appearance and now you claim that I look at their life. Learn to correct your word choice because you clearly don't know where you hit personal boundaries.
"You dont realize your mind is capable of controlling your entire body, but you need to be in the proper frequency to control it completely. You can force your cells to work just like if they were exercising through physical work." -feelingtruth
- And? All you just said is that meditation is just like exercising. Now you showed me that meditation is the "easy" way out. That instead of putting effort on the treadmill you reflect it on your mind. That I can show pity, because now your teaching students to find loopholes out of situations and that deducts leadership values, effort, and goals. That was a bad move on your part to acknowledge meditation in such way. Nice job!
"I never said meditation is seperate from doing physical activities, this i swhy we have extracurricular activities. School should be a center for learning, did you learn anything from P.E. that you could apply in your life that you didnt already know? I highly doubt it."
-This was the WORST thing you could say. You gave me the oppurtunity to tell you not only the GAINS of P.E but as well the influence it had on me. Why would you let me present that, again fragmental and broken contentions connected by logic and benefits of meditation.
-P.E helped me save the life of two important people in my life. How did P.E do this. In P.E you learn emergency command and CPR. In HOPE, CPR was consider a project to demonstrate. This was a memorable lesson because I had 2 cases when I had to incorperate this:
-In a foolish competition my friends had at Olive Garden, they had a Jalapeno competition. My friend went to at it, eating numerous chilly peppers. His techinque was to gobble them down so he wouldn't feel the burn. After eating so many, he had massively choked. Not only was he choking, saliva in esophagus made the jalapenos burn up his throat. So here we had my friend choking on burning hot jalapenos. Using the skills from my P.E trained CPR, I assessed the situation by doing what Mrs. William had taught me: assess the subject, is the choking occurring near the digestive or near digestive track. Once finding that out the jalapenos were through my friends throat passages, I needed to perform a 7 cm pressure, not the average 5. I manage to make him exhale 3 jalapenos but one still went through him. Due to the fact he didn't chew it, he got a stomach ulcer. He recovered a week later from the accident which occur about 9 years ago when I was at highschool.
-Next, my brother had digested a large quantity of rice which could easily seal the digestive system. Using emergency command I perform CPR the moment I identify my brother's well-being. This was hard for me to preform since it is so long ago from highschool that I learn CPR. I was able to preform it 80% accurately.
-You see, everyone does use P.E in their daily life. P.E teaches students to eat healthy (parents usually do much of that all ready), know what to do in emergencies, learn about sportmanship and mental health, the essential bones in your body (at least the main 30 out of the 206), and the essential ability of mental health the biggest role of P.E and H.O.P.E. Mental health taught me to be a leader, to give everything you got, decision make, and adjust when my body physically changes. Its all apart of P.E. You use everything you learn in P.E whether you think so or not. P.E is like Math! You think how is knowing the 6.5% tax rate is suppose to correlate with my life. Taxes is something you face in life. How is knowing where my major joints important? You notice that a ball-and-socket joint becomes tense or even sprain you can determine it using your knowledge on bones (P.E), you assess it using the project skills you did in P.E about making a ball-and-socket grapple (I wish I had that with me), and use mental health and workout by doing the flexibility strech to out the joint.
-P.E is a credit for the following jobs:
=Anatomy
=Coach
=ANY TYPE of sport
=Vet
-You can't defy P.E's skills its literally impossible. You use physical education to keep yourself ALIVE! You use the P.E skill of mental health to organize the foods on your plate and even at that your parents would teach that. You use P.E skill of sportmanship so you can communicate with others without prejudice or hatred to a opponent. Etc. etc. etc.
"I dont stay ignorant on medicine and technology, our body is capable of maintaining itself without the external influence of man made drugs that are handed out like they are candy to fix problems when all they do is complicate things on a deeper level."
-No...No no no... You did probably should remove that contention before people see that. I don't know why you wrote such a false contention. I will have to, once again, detest your pitiful knowledge on drugs:
The drugs that are handed out like candy go to very ill people. You wanna know why? Drugs may not cure people's disease but it will halt there disease never ending progression. Do you think drugs will complicate things further? You said yes. What does the sane minded people who pay Rx prescriptions so that they can live a good "X" amount of years... N-O. no... Want to know why? Because you believe drugs is ALWAYS about drug dealers and illegal prescriptions. Once more, I am greatly displease with such arrogant response. Explain to me how thinking of the mind will stop my uncle's cancer progression. It won't. Its common sense, man.
I will keep refuting your points but this was written in your response that made me win:*
"Im going to stop arguing with you not because i have lost the debate, but because you do not understand what meditation is truly used for, as you can tell by my profile picture, i have it as a merkaba."
-DID YOU JUST SAY I WON? I know I won but don't flatter me. Clearly you wrote: "Im going to stop arguing with you not because i have lost the debate." You wrote that approx. 18 hrs. 26 mins ago! You said I WILL STOP ARGUING. Why? Because you lost, my illusive friend. I was going on and on and on about how wrong you are but since you acknowledge my victory, I guess I thank you for forfeiting. :3
BUT, before I end this I found this ironic remark by you:
"This is why females make no sense to males and males get frustrated by females. We need to learn to look at the big picture of things. There is nothing wrong with a feminist society, the hippy movement was started by feminists, so you are telling me that living a life of peace and ease is just stupid, well i find that kind of reasoning a burden to the advancement of a society that is always at war and conflict and is stuck to a schedule."
- I am going to send this to my boss. He would DIE hearing this! Your sexist and a completely forgot that there ARE male teachers. I am shocked that you would say that. I am afraid to say that you need to attend P.E. You need to take the mental health portion of it because your decision making skills showed me that your not only sexist Solipisism jerk but as well completely ignorant of human capabilities.
Do you know how do read? at all? I said NOT because i lost the debate but because you dont understand what i am trying to say, you didnt win the debate, if you think i implied that you need to reread it, ive given you my fucking grading methodology over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over im sick of it because thats the way I would grade it, im sorry that i dont conform to your standards of education, my bad for being different and wanting to see change in the world.
I never learned CPR in PE so obviously the classes are different everywhere.
You are blowing this way out of proportion, i have given my opinions and you shoot them down and dont even take the time to realize what i am trying to say at all, instead you say PE this PE that, great dude, have fucking fun with PE wonderful, i just wanted to spur a debate and i did but i like to gather different opinions and not look at the same facts over and over again, routine gets boring to me, so.... ya... you didnt win the debate all you did was type out a huge ass long reply and im not acknowledge most of the parts to it because theres no point at all, if you want to think you won, great, have a cookie
Either way, meditation should still be put into the education system
And why do i need help? because you dont like how i think? Thats great reasoning dude, and im not sexist... you are sexist because you look at humans as seperate sexes, which they are, but to say that males should be strictly masculine and females strictly feminine is pretty sexist, i see people as people, masculinity is great for getting from point a to b but femininity allows you to stop and the smell the flowers along the way, but you will probably not understand this metaphor and just go into instant rage mode about how wrong i am
