CreateDebate is a social debate community built around ideas, discussion and democracy.
If this is your first time checking out a debate, here are some quick tips to help get you started:
Arguments with the highest score are displayed first.
Argument replies (both in favor and in opposition) are displayed below the original argument.
To follow along, you may find it helpful to show and hide the replies displayed below each argument.
To vote for an argument, use these icons:
You have the power to cast exactly one vote (either up or down) for each argument.
Once you vote, the icon will become grayed out and the argument's score will change.
Yes, you can change your vote.
Debate scores, side scores and tag scores are automatically calculated by an algorithm that primarily takes argument scores into account.
All scores are updated in real-time.
To learn more about the CreateDebate scoring system, check out the FAQ.
When you are ready to voice your opinion, use the Add Argument button to create an argument.
If you would like to address an existing argument, use the Support and Dispute link within that argument to create a new reply.
You can share this debate in three different ways:
#1
#2
#3
Paste this URL into an email or IM:
Click here to send this debate via your default email application.
Click here to login and CreateDebate will send an email for you.
Should a person who has a service animal have to prove the necessity for it?
Too often we hear about people claiming their pets as service animals when there may not actually be a legitimate medical need. Unfortunately some people are just buying the vests and skating on the fact that they can claim some form of disability without having to back that claim up or feigning outrage that a question of such a personal nature is being asked. Some even threaten lawsuit for "discrimination". So if someone has a genuine medical need for a service animal should they have to carry around their proof for it and submit it upon request?
Sometimes. I'm not saying every time. I'm not saying they should be challenged about it everywhere they go. Most people get the benefit of the doubt. But I know a co-worker for example who brings in a great big doberman reportedly because it keeps him calm. OK. And the dog is very nice, we like each other, so I'm not trying to kick that dog out. But I'm pretty sure the only reason that dog comes to work is because the man wants it to. In general, all you have to do to have a service animal is to say it is.
My issue is that my husband is deathly allergic to cats and certain dog breeds to the point he needs an inhaler to be in just the same room as one and my son is very allergic to cats. If we go to a store or (god forbid) a plane, and someone brings their service animal which happens to be one of those he runs the risk of having an asthma attack. I want to know if we have a hassle on something (like having to leave or change planes) that it's for a legit reason and not some jerk who thinks their right to have a pet supersedes my families health.
If you are afraid of anyone in your family having a asthma attack then you really should not have your family in the general public. Stop whining like the Progressive you are !!!!
Yes, because being concerned about family members suffering because some people are abusing a system meant to help those who really need it, is whining. Sure. Yikes. What a life you must lead.
Yes they are. But this discussion is more akin to whether a person parking in a handicapped space really is handicapped or instead somehow gamed the system, such as using their deceased spouse's handicap pass. Are all these service animals indeed legit? That's the question.
Listen to the Boston Diaper Boy babble !!!!!!! Hey Stupid what does your co-worker have to do with a service animal ??? Explain how really Stupid you are to all of us !!!!!!!!!!! Can you do that ????????????
Usually I'm really against banning, I think everyone should have their say. But your comments have little in them of substance and are more BS than usual. That, mixed with personal attacks to others, pushes the decision so, sorry, but you're littering this debate with trash. Grats on being the first person I've ever banned though!
If handicapped people whose disability is not plainly obvious, but are granted privileges and are given priority over the fit and healthy then they should be legally required to provide documented proof upon request by duly appointed personnel.
Well, I don't care what you say! Handicap people are required to have a handicap sticker or plate so it's not asking too much for a person to provide proof for the need of a service animal.... so there!
"Submit it upon request". To anyone that asks? No, that's stupid. Unless you believe people should be able to stop you in your car and request to see your license, or some similar circumstance.
People have the right to have their animals in their car, it's not a public place so that's not really an issue. I'm talking about stores, airplanes, and various places where people may have a concern about animals.
How is proving the necessity for a service animal being treated as a second class citizen? It's not denying them entry to something if they ARE disabled, it's denying the animal entry if they aren't and acting like they are. Much like having to have a handicap sticker on your car to park in the handicap parking spot.
I think you've got some assumption stuck in your head about what I'm saying and you're going off that versus what I'm actually saying. Please re-read what I've written and see if you need better clarification.
No. Not all disabilities are visible, we can't have a police state............................................................................................
Which is why I'm asking if they should have to prove it. I know quite well that not all disabilities are visible, my daughter looks perfectly normal and is autistic. But some people abuse the system and there are others who are highly allergic to animals. Should they have to suffer because someone just wants to walk around with their animal without an actual medical need for it?
Nope. Disabled people have the right to not be treated as second class citizens.................................................................................
Yet again, read what I'm saying instead of just commenting. Where did I say disabled should be treated as second class citizens?
Let me put it this way. If you see a car that is parked in a handicap parking spot do you think there should be something on there that shows it can park there? Or do you think just anyone can park in a handicap parking spot?
Right now there SHOULD be tags identifying a vehicle as one driven by a handicap person and there are special concessions made for that person, rightfully so. But they had to get that permission by proving they were disabled.
I am disabled. . I don't have to prove anything to anyone who asks, LIKE YOU SAID, that would bve a violation of ,my rights...........................................
If you are disabled , you do indeed have to prove it to certain people who ask as well you know , stop acting the drama queen and getting all uptight just because you’re incorrect yet again
No I don't. You are just an ableist.......................................................................................................................
Yes you did. You are denying disability rights. I have the ABSOLUTE right to privacy and not be treated like a second class citizen....................................
Yes you did. You will not change my mind on my rights........................................................................................................................................
It’s a typical tactic from this wretch who makes statements she can never back up and downvotes , bans and demands apologies just because she’s butt hurt over being corrected
No , incorrect again , my whole family are believers but unlike you at least they try to be honest , kind , and decent human beings , you’re just a hate filled bigot
I’m delighted you ban me from your debates as it’s what American “Christians “ like you and From Within do as in bleat on about freedom of speech in America but ban anyone who disagrees with your bigotry from speaking
Yet again you are completely missing the point of the debate in favor of what you have in your head. If you park in a handicap space you have to show evidence that you are handicap in the form of a plate or sticker or hanging tag. If you are bringing a service animal in and your disability isn't obvious (such as blindness) and you are asked by appropriate staff, you should have proof.
Too many people are just buying vests without actually having a medical need for their animal.
Ok let's clarify that the people asking would be representatives of whatever business the person with the animal is going into. Not some random person off the street. ok? Does that make it simpler? Maybe that's where we are getting stuck. I thought that was a given but it may not be.
If someone walks into a store with a service animal and their "disability" is not obvious, should they have to provide proof that they are bringing in their animal for a medical reason as opposed to they just don't want to leave the animal at home?
The comparison to this is a person in a vehicle that parks in a handicap space. Don't you think there should be something on the vehicle that indicates it's given special permission to park there?
Please answer those two questions that I put in bold.
You mean to tell me a blind person with a service dog needs an actual medical card ???????
What you need to do is have a list of animals you and your family are allergic to and make sure those people have a medical card ROTFFLMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!! That way you and your family are not offended