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Civil Rights would be violated No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
Debate Score:54
Arguments:53
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Would Girls not being allowed to join Boy Scouts violate their Civil Rights?

Join the debate on whether or not girls should be allowed to join the Boy Scouts, and whether or not it would violate their civil rights if they weren't

Civil Rights would be violated

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No, b/c they have Girl Scouts

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It's interesting. I just did a bit of reading on this subject and here's what I've found so far:

The Boy scouts have the Eagle Scout rank. Everybody knows what it is and how great it looks on a resume. The Girl Scouts equivalent to that is The Girl Scouts Gold Award and almost nobody knows of it. Outside of the Girl Scout community it's practically unknown so it doesn't have anything like the prestige that the Eagle Scout badge has.

So that's one reason girls want to be Boy Scouts.

The other reason is that many of the Girl Scout troops don't do any outdoor camping. Usually it's because the troop leader has no outdoor skills or one or more of the girls don't want to get dirty or sleep on the ground, so the girls that do want to go camping and don't mind roughing it and getting dirty are missing out on that experience.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
Imperium(41) Clarified
1 point

So simply alter the girl scout curriculum if its such a problem. Seems like a simple fix to me.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
Atrag(5556) Disputed
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Then the majority of girl scouts won't be happy. Boy scouts will always have activities that boys generally prefer and girl scouts will always have activities that girls generally prefer.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
2 points

Separate but equal is not equal. Boy scouts should allow girls and vice versa. Everyone should be allowed or we should all have a single scout group to allow everyone in.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
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Hello B:

Years ago, we had black schools and white schools.. People said that CAN'T be discrimination because separate IS equal.. But, it wasn't..

Eagle scouts are venerated.. Girls can't BE eagle scouts. That's discrimination..

excon

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

No girls should not be able to do what the boys do. Thats why they made girl scouts for GIRLS!

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
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By the basic of the boy scouts I think that boys and girls can be together as a group so I think it's better for the task for each and every in point of view even with girl scouts of the prevention in the scout groups of each of the fact that many people know boy scouts and girl scouts can work as equal.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

Because the to separate boys from the girls and show how girls cannot overcome boys scotts activities and games

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

Yes because in the bill of rights, 14th amendment, it says "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” Which means that no one not even the president can discriminate against women nor children of the female sex. What if a girl wanted to learn how to tie knots like nooses, cut trees, not make cookies and cakes and sell cookies.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
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Yes, because people have equal rights to do what they choose

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

Yes because girls should have equal rights just like the boys. They shouldn't turn you down because you have a vagina between your legs.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

Well honestly it's very sexist too not let girls join boy scouts and boys joining girl scouts. The girl scouts are based on what women like but there is some who are interested in doing stuff other the womanly activities. And boys might want to do other then manly things. They should be allowed to join whatever scouts they want to and stop being so damn sexist.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
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I think that equality should go both ways and that anyone can join any club they want girls or boys.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

No it wouldn't , if girls were not allowed join the Girl Scouts it would ......the world has gone fucking mad

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
jeffreyone(1378) Clarified
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the world has gone fucking mad

Since a book of principles was tagged a myth(unfounded) and flashed down our toilets; Bible.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
Nomenclature(1257) Clarified
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Since a book of principles was tagged a myth(unfounded) and flashed down our toilets; Bible.

Principles like murdering homosexuals and stoning fortune tellers to death.

(unfounded)

Founded. By, among other things, carbon dating and the theory of evolution.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
Dermot(5736) Disputed
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A book of principles ? 🤔 😂😂😂😂😂 surely you mean a book of bullshit ? ( that's where shit goes down the toilet ) .

There's also a lovely story in the bile / bible about a talking ass called Balaam, I think it should be re-named Jefferey 👉 👼🏿 = 🐴

Side: Civil Rights would be violated

Is it a violation of my civil rights if Muslims Against Israel doesn't let me join? No? Allrighty then...

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
Atrag(5556) Clarified
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Well the number one question for joining any organisation is: do you have a sincere desire to uphold the principles of the group. Girls joining boy scouts: yes. You joining Obama club, progressive for transgender etc etc etc: no.

Side: Civil Rights would be violated
1 point

No. To me that's kind of like saying that the civil rights of the boys in the Boyscouts is being violated by having to accept girls.

I do think Girl Scouts is a little drab, I'd much rather my daughter be able to be in a group with her brother where they can learn all sorts of outdoor things like camping, fishing, and the like. But it really doesn't matter to me too much what the Boy scouts/Girl scouts do so long as the kids are safe.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

No, and for many reasons, not just one...

1) They have alternatives (such as Girl Scouts)

2) Precedent is well set and I'm not aware of any who were crying foul about it

3) There are many studies which could be cited for justification which give merit to better learning when children are with their own gender.

4) I'm not sure the US courts would recognize that children have civil rights beyond that they not be abused. Don't most of the rest of civil protections kick in at legal adult age?

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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No they shouldn't be allowed to join boy shouts, girls have their own group and if they desire to do activities the boy shouts are doing they should just talk to their troop leader about doing the things that they'd want to do that the boys are doing .

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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No, because they have girl scouts. If they want to take part in the boy's activities they should ask the troop leader to make plans that allow them to the same thing as boy's. It really shouldn't be such a big deal If they don't like how the girls aren't allowed to join the boy's scout, they should make a scout that allow both genders.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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Man i think Thats its civil rights they got they girl scouts and they got they boy scouts and stuff that the boys do the girl can do it to thats why i think thats its civil right

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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They got one already there is no need to be in boys scout.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

No, because they already have a girl scout and if the girls wanna do what the boys do then they should talk to there leader and tell them what the boys do they wanna do

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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They have there own Girl scouts. So therefore girls trying to be in the BOYS SCOUTS want even look right.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

I feel like they don't have to full out stop having girl scouts, I feel like the Girls and the Boys scouts should come together and do adventures together, certain activities. But if a girl wants to be with the guys, let her. Maybe she just likes doing more physical things. Being judgmental as hell isn't going to solve anything really.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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I said no because they already have girl scouts, so why would they need to join the boy scouts? They could just do things like the boy scouts do if they wanted to be like them

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

Honestly, if a small group of girls wants to do outdoor activities then another leader should be able to provide what is needed or wanted. It's a simple solution.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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They shouldn't be able to come to the boys scout because they got there own if they want to do stuff like the boy scouts, they can do it by there self's.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

No not really because they have girl scouts for a reason for girls

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

Girl scouts should not be able to join boy scouts because they have their own group if they wanted to do the same thing that the boy scouts are doing then they should tell their scout master what they want to do.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

girls should not be allowed in boys scouts because , they have girls scouts for girls so therefore they can join girls scouts .

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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I Think no because they have girl scouts for a reason. If you want to join boy scouts you should talk to your scout leader and see if they will let you join with them. I just think they have girl and boy scouts for a reason.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

No, b/c they have there on scouts there is a separate boy and girl scouts for a reason it is not called a boy and girl scout they are serrate for a reason.

Natalie Griffin & Tyler Lear

10/24/17

3rd period

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

I don't think girls should be able to join boys scouts because they have girls scouts and boys scouts for a reason . Boys belong in boys scouts and girls belong in girls scouts , and thats it .

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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No because things could happen, and that will mess up everything you have to think of the consequences . I think things are good the way they are now. girls do they own thing and boys do their own thing.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

I don't think girls should join boy scouts because its GIRLS only and boys should stay in BOY scouts. girls should do their own thing just like the boys it should stay separated.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
1 point

it shouldn't matter that they want to be in i think its okay

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts

No. Because of two simple words: BOY SCOUTS. Boy. There is a Girl Scouts organization for a reason. So as to balance that equation out and create equality there.

This further demonstrates the theory that Feminism is no longer about equality of the sexes, but more about women wanting something, and using the argument of oppression to try and rationalize it.

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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What civil right does a girl have to join the boy scouts? If all the things they have (girl scouts, girls sports teams, etc.) isn't enough, when will they stop?

Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts
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For Pete's sake! Next they'll want to be able to get haircuts at our barber's shop. Isn't there any place left where a guy can get a break from girls?

Supporting Evidence: barber's (ibb.co)
Side: No, b/c they have Girl Scouts