Global Warming: Man or Myth
Now, most of the folks I've met on here have bee pretty intelligent, sensible people, but this is going to be interesting just the same.
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How many of these links did you look at? I just click on a few but did a little research with their first comment and here is my debunk to you and the site, in regards to the #1 argument about the sun. Please read this article:
If you don't want to read the entire thing just skip to the end labeled discussions. And you'll see that this argument of Man or Myth is a very close one but again we still don't know enough to claim one over the other. Looks to be 50% man 50% other that is causing this shift in temperature.
I love it when you make the "flat earth" argument! I suppose the same goes for the 600 scientists who recently signed a petition voicing their disagreement with the ipcc's alarmist conclusions and even showed up at the recent Kioto 2 conference to protest and try to get their voices heard.
2 of them are Nobel Award winning scientists.
Before you make the typical argument that they are all secretly working for Oil Co's, the same could be said about those scientists that support the man made GW argument, after all, that's how they get funding for their research, scare the daylights out of the politicos and enough of their constituents and they throw endless amounts of funding your way.
Seriously? Global Warming is most definatley real. All of the people who are out there that say, "oh...but it's cold" or something to that effect to put out that they believe there is no global warming need to look at the facts. Yeah, it may not be a huge problem now, but in the future it's going to be a big problem if we don't take the time to try to set up something to help fight it.
If you don't believe it, look up some stuff about it. Im not 100% on the real numbers, as it has been a while since I have looked at them...but the earth's temperature is slowly rising. Something to the effect of 1 degree celsius each yeah. That may not seem like a lot...but it is going to add up.
Lets say that we don't know if global warming is real, but we all know it is. If we dont know, we can only choose one of two options...take action or not take action.
If we take action the two outcomes would be
:if GW is real and we take action, we lose money and have no real losses:
:If GW isnt real and we take action, we lose money, but still no losses and danger:
:If GW is real and we do nothing, we have major problems. We could have major economic problems and a recession and possibly a depression:
:If GW isnt real and we do nothing, no problems at all:
The above scenerios are the main points of a video on YouTube, "The Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See." I reccommend that anyone watch that and listen to the man's theory.
Read a bit more and you will learn that Global Warming is a form of Climate Change, as is any other natural process that the earth goes through to rejuvenate itself. However, as this is a debate, logically the issue being discussed would be the ABNORMAL level of Global Warming that the earth manifests. These patterns of differentiation from the norm is where the question of MAN OR MYTH comes in.
Oh yeah?! Well....., bite me :P
To say that man is the only factor in global warming and that we should only focus on how to fix this single factor is being short sighted and potentially dangerous because it keeps us from looking at other factors (like the eminent magnetic pole shift reversal) and solutions.
Global warming is not a myth, obviously. Whether it was created by man or simply exacerbated is the real question. Warming trends have happened cyclically throughout the history of the planet, but this particular warming is far more drastic, rapid, and sudden than any other, according to core research.
There is no way that global warming is a myth.
HERE is a classic example of selfish corrupt pollitics and their climate change copouts .
NOTE: How they cut this from the air just as Peter was about to name names.
Please chech out TMA.
And please help save Peter from our corrupt government.
NOTE; This is not a request for donations.
I'm pretty sure that it had to warm pretty fast to melt the ice that covered almost the whole planet during the ice age and it would probably me safe to assume that humans and countless 1000's of other species are alive and thriving because of it.
Are you aware that water vapor is responsible for approx. 75% of the green house gases in the atmoshphere?
Maybe we should get rid of water since it is the biggest culprit.
Did you also know that the earth's temp has not increased in the last 7 years? In fact, it has cooled in the last 2.
Also, Mars has experienced warming in recent years, along with a few other planets, I wonder how that happened without us being there.
The US Army says it's not caused by man.
Hell, NASA says it's not caused by man.
So do about 30,000 scientists who have been begging for a debate on the topic.
More money has been put into research that says man is the cause than research claiming it's not man.
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Only going to say Myth on the premise that I do not agree with the title Global Warming. I really believe that the choice to use "Global Warming" was a scare tactic. As for other Man issues revolved around the increasing defamation of the earth, that is a real issue. I'm tired of people throwing out names and titles just to get attention. let's get to the REAL issues at hand. here are some links to explore:
here is the ipcc written report 2001: http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_
and the list goes on and on and on...if you'd like more e-mail me.
Here's another explanation for Global Warming that does not include man.
Here's some evidence from NASA that supports this view:
"According to NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, in 1998 something changed the Earth's gravitational field which moved the magnetic poles closer together. The NASA article explained that as the ice on the poles melted, ocean currents moved water toward the equator, which factors researchers believe to be partly responsible, in conjunction with shifts in atmospheric patterns, for this ongoing shift in the Earth's magnetic field."
To say that man is the only factor in global warming and that we should only focus on how to fix this single factor is being short sighted and potentially dangerous because it keeps us from looking at other factors and solutions.
can you please list the source you have for his evidence. We need to establish some integrity. Many on this debate site just say what they'd like with no evidence. I know it might take longer but that's what separates the kids from the adults. Does anyone but myself see this?
The side you are supposed to be defending is that Global Warming is a myth.
It is common sense that Man isn't the ONLY cause of Global Warming, but the case that Man IS a cause of Global Warming brings the whole MYTH concept as something that needs to be questioned.