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Im afraid he hasn't lost any voters, because if this were to be a factor to switch sides, then Im guessing the reason has to be patriotism, right? Loyalty to your country. Which means if anyone were to switch sides, it would be a patriot, and someone who sees the unwillingness to pay taxes as a lack of loyalty to ones country.
EXCEPT THIS IDEOLOGY DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE ON THE AMERICAN POLITICAL RIGHT WING. Patriotism (which usually is a right-wing ideology) in the united states is not so much about being loyal to ones country as it is alienating the body that governs it. So if anything, more american "patriots" will vote for Trump when they see how badly he disresepcts to his own government.
I think the truth is anybody with reasonable sanity, intellect and conscience would never have voted for Trump in the first place. He's begun a fascist cult and when people are brainwashed into a cult it doesn't matter what you tell them because they just won't listen. The leader is always the victim. Either the media is lying or there's a Communist plot to oust him. We've seen this all before in Germany.
Well I'd agree with you on the part where the tax leak will not loose voters, but I disagree with you that Trump is a fascist, he is a populist. Trump gains his support from the common american while putting down elitist groups (aka the media and left-wing politicians) which is not a fascist, it's a populist, especially considering that he is much more pro states rights, not the federal governments rights.
Except when he tried to control the entire countries covid19 strategy. That's the thing with Trump, he is neither this nor that, because he is simply not consistent. You cannot count on him, he's like impulse buyer at Target.
Well I'd agree with you on the part where the tax leak will not loose voters, but I disagree with you that Trump is a fascist, he is a populist.
Populism is how the fascists obtained power in the first place. Jesus Christ, why are you people SO STUPID? Have you literally never opened a history book?
I'm confused. I've seen you deny things in history and science books. You might as well just joing the flat Earth cult. There's no chance that you wouldn't like it and start jerking off to flat Earther porn.
That's obvious. You've just claimed a national anti-fascist group is fascist. You're one of these complete retards who just believes any lie which comes out of Daddy Trump's mouth, however ridiculous it might be.
Why don't you and Fuhrer Trump both take action against the "fascists" using your favourite anti-fascist group, The Proud Boys?
The thing I just find so utterly baffling about Americans is the ease by which you can convince them of the exact opposite of physical reality. Trump has spent his entire life living in financial privilege. A thirty second clip of anything he says is enough to illustrate what a spoilt, entitled little brat he is. He has spent his entire presidency attacking the working class media and anybody who disagrees with anything he says, yet somehow his voters are trying to sell him as a working class hero standing up to "elitist" journalists on salaries of less than 30,000 dollar a year.
If he hasn't lost voters with downplaying Covid during a critical time, STILL downplaying Covid against the recommendation of all his advisors, his sexual assault scandals, questionable business dealings scandals, his University scandal, his numerous attempts at limiting or negating freedom of speech, and all of the scandals surrounding his personal choices in people (Manafort, Cohen, and many others)...nothing is going to sway the voters still hanging on to him.
You must be unfamiliar with Biden , who took $3.5 million from Russian oligarchs. But you're a phony, so it's barely surprising that you like a man who is everything you claim Trump is times ten.
Trump supporters always deflect instead of reflect.
Regardless of what you think, if Trump was a Democrat I would have just as much disdain for him as I do now for how he's dealing (or not dealing) with things. I don't like either option for Reps or Dems, but you'd know that if you got your head out of Trumps arse long enough to pay attention.
Regardless of what you think, if Trump was a Democrat I would have just as much disdain for him as I do now for how he's dealing (or not dealing) with things. I don't like either option for Reps or Dems, but you'd know that if you got your head out of Trumps arse long enough to pay attention.
I hate to play Devil's Advocate, but I doubt you are free from blame either. You get on your soapbox a lot because you are always looking for the holier than thou argument.
Yes, you are right that the US election has become an international mockery. But you aren't prepared to take an honest look at your own beliefs and how they have contributed to the problem.
I'm curious. What do you consider a 'holier than thou' argument?
Let me clarify for you. I do believe you are holier than a lot of other Americans. The point I was trying to make is that -- in my opinion -- you are still way off the mark when it comes to recognising how society functions, why things are as they are, what you can do to change them, and what is productive versus what is counter-productive.
Let me clarify for you. I do believe you are holier than a lot of other Americans.
Still needing clarification. If having an opinion, even a strong one, on something is holier than thou, then I guess we all are. Unless you mean holier as in I'm more religious? I'd have to disagree with that but that's why I'm still wondering about that.
you are still way off the mark when it comes to recognizing how society functions, why things are as they are, what you can do to change them, and what is productive versus what is counter-productive.
I have absolutely admitted there are some aspects I don't know enough about, I've also admitted to having strong opinions on what I've experienced. I'm not going to pretend I know all of what is going on in England or Iran or even Mexico and fancy myself an expert on how their society is but I will say I understand how the society I live in daily functions.
Sometimes it's really hard to figure out if you're trolling or not. Obviously I wasn't sure if my opinion was accurate which is why I've asked you twice to clarify, and twice you've dodged. If you read the rest of what I wrote...."Still needing clarification. If having an opinion, even a strong one, on something is holier than thou, then I guess we all are. Unless you mean holier as in I'm more religious? I'd have to disagree with that but that's why I'm still wondering about that."
Sometimes it's really hard to figure out if you're trolling or not. Obviously I wasn't sure if my opinion was accurate which is why I've asked you twice to clarify, and twice you've dodged
A holier than thou argument is you telling me what I mean when I write things like you know better than I do. Does that clear it up for you?
That's rich. If you want to know what "Holier Than Thou" means then Google the term. Do you think someone employs me to answer your stupid deflections of the point?
What do you consider a 'holier than thou' argument?
Where did I say I didn't know what Holier than thou means? I was asking what you considered a holier than thou argument for clarification. If you can't clarify then just say so. Otherwise this is a redundant debate.
A holier than thou argument is you telling me what I mean when I write things like you know better than I do. Does that clear it up for you?
That's more assumption or hasty generalization perhaps, something you are not innocent of either. But then it happens to anyone, which is why I asked you to clarify twice.
I will say I understand how the society I live in daily functions.
You haven't got a Scooby Doo how it functions. You were just blaming the media in your other post, but the media just follows the rules of the system. It isn't a charity. The media is there to make a profit.
Are you arguing just to argue? I never said they weren't.
For reference I believe this is the one you are remembering In part I blame the media for the perpetuation and growth of an "us vs. them" mentality, but our current 'leader' has strengthened that mentality by consistently screwing up and then blaming others and claiming to be a victim. I would love to see an honest candidate that doesn't resort to consistently attacking the 'other side' and who would actually work to try to mend this country. I don't know if or when that'll happen in my lifetime but I can hope.
Are you arguing just to argue? I never said they weren't.
This again is part of it. When you get legitimately criticised you blame the other person. You race to justify your own biases while you simultaneously criticise everybody else's. In other words, you are a typical Liberal.
The issue with what you wrote is that you aren't legitimately criticizing my debate, you may be criticizing me but eh, whatever. You made a comment that implied something inaccurate and then built off that inaccurate implication. Now, as I'm not a liberal, and you've tried to justify your own bias about me, are you using an example of what you are saying I do?
You made a comment that implied something inaccurate
You are simply laughable. Obviously it wasn't inaccurate, was it? Because you are preaching at me like you are my Kindergarten teacher. You're hopeless. Shut up please.
