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Debate Score:53
Arguments:52
Total Votes:54
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Is "Eye for an Eye" a good Criminal Policy?

Would, instead of imprisoning people, America just 'did unto those who did unto others' be a better way of dealing with the criminal element.

That means in general. Theives have their property repossed, assaulters get beaten up, killers get killed.

Two pigs putting money in a human bank.

Yes it is

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No it isn't

Side Score: 30

Currently smoking marijuana is illegal. So that would mean that the law on that would be "A bowl for a bowl" so I could become a cop, catch people smoking weed and then their punishment would be to smoke me up.

Side: Yes it is

My opinion is that it would. I feel criminals don't fear a cushy jail cell, where they are surrounded by their brothers in crime. What my mother used to do when I was younger was give me some form what I did to anyone else back, instead of simple grounding. So fights, got me spankings, stealing got my stuff taken (oh no, not my nintendo lol), among other things. The result was I feared what would happen to me for doing something to someone else, so I became a moderately good kid.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

I believe an “eye for an eye” is a just method in approaching criminal affairs. After all, criminals who commit a crime rarely experience the tragic pain the victim or victims’ family have to endure. For example, one of my classmates was murdered; he was minding his business, and unfortunately got in the crossfire of a shooting. The person who murdered him was sentenced to life in prison without parole. Some experts, including Sen. John McCain claims, “[Prison] crushes your spirit and weakens your resistance more effectively than any other form of mistreatment.” However, any logical breathing individual can plainly see the fallacy in that- prison is supposed to be a rehabilitation center, in which inmates are incentivized to break and redefine their bad habits. Solitary confinement grants one the opportunity of an education, job, game room, television, shower, workout center, and three square meals a day until that inmate is let free or dies. Those benefits are more than what most Americans who are not felons receive today. An eye for an eye can serve to replace the flawed prison institution and exhibit a more aggressive and ethical approach. Society is nothing more than animals that need to be put in their place, which is why have rules and regulations. We are always being watched by elites and when one of us does something mischievous, then that individual needs to be the sacrificial lamb to set an example. In other words, a murderer should absolutely get murdered, unless that murder was in self-defense. If it wasn’t in self-defense, then the murderer should solely bear his/her own responsibility and accept the consequences. Ghandi said, “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind” but if we don’t take the necessary action and continue to slap the wrists of the careless, then the world is just going to close its eyes from all light because it will be easier to look at than the pain.

Works cited

"Gandhi Mahatma Quotes." Brainy Quote. (2011): n. page. Web..

Gawande, Atul. "The United States holds tens of thousands of inmates in long-term solitary confinement. Is this torture?." NewYorker. (2009): n. page. Web. .

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Yes. I don't think that many people who commit crimes are afraid of jail. If they were, they wouldn't do it. Also, I don't think that sitting in jail can equal to a lifetime of pain they caused someone. It's only fair to punish people by doing to them exactly what they do to others. It doesn't make sense to make someone sit in a room as a punishment, it doesn't do much to them. It does stop them from doing it again, it does take away their freedom, but it doesn't cause the same pain they caused someone. And only that would be fair. Plus, it would make criminal offenses much rarer, since I'm sure rapists would think twice about doing what they do if they knew it was going to happen to them/their daughter/their mother.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

It would. It would make the law feared by criminels. Less money will be used too.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

One should experience what one do unto others to prevent them from making their mistakes again.

Side: Yes it is
3 points

Would you suggest that rapists be raped ?

Side: No it isn't

Actually yes. I understand the question is supposed to be the 'wow factor' type, where no one should even consider it. Yet I actually agree this would be sound. If a rapist is violated I feel that knowing firsthand what, what they are doing to people feels like, that they'd stop.

Side: Yes it is

I'm curious... who would be doing the rape to said rapist?

Side: Yes it is
1 point

All right, but what if someone rapes two people. Do they get raped twice? And also, there is no way to set the circumstances to be exact.

Something else: What if you kill two different people? Then, the idea is you get killed, maybe in the same way you killed them. But what if you killed them in different ways? The idea of "Eye for an Eye" simply stops working after a point.

And something else to think about in the rape situation: How do you plan to rape them back? Hire someone? What if the original rapist fights back? Then are they punished for more crimes?

I see where you are coming from, but I don't really buy it.

Side: No it isn't
2 points

No. I was raped, but I would never rape my rapist because rape is always wrong.

Side: No it isn't

Exactly so.

Rape is ALWAYS wrong.

Doing horrible acts to someone shows a depravity that I personally wouldn't like to see this country descend to.

Side: No it isn't
1 point

Thank you Elena. Two wrongs never make a right. :)

Side: No it isn't
2 points

"An eye for an eye, makes the world blind"

-Mahatma Ghandi

Justice isnt about righteous punishment, not returning the favor.

Side: No it isn't
Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
1 point

What is righteous punishment, I thought it was for rehabilitating the criminals so they don't perform more crimes.

Side: Yes it is
Centifolia(1319) Disputed
1 point

Justice has an equation:

(Crime + How it was done) - Reasons = Justice

What if the criminal was insane? What if he was defending himself? what if he was blackmailed? Every single factor is studied in the court of justice, my friend.

The philosophy of "An eye for an eye" isnt justice at all. But a judgement clouded by emotions

Side: No it isn't

I just read what Quocalimar said and wonder what his mother would do to him if he had sex with someone without her permission...

It doesn't really work and is very hypocritical.

Side: No it isn't
Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
1 point

The thing is, my mother gave me a taste of what i was doing to others. I don't know what she would do if I sexually assaulted someone, but because I had my things taken, for taking other people's things, I couldn't even imagine what would happen if I were rape someone, therefore I'd never do it.

It doesn't really work

Do you know this doesn't work? Honestly if you do, that tidbit of information would be a great benefit to your argument, that up to now, has been nothing but an emotional appeal ground in no logic.

It...is very hypocritical.

What's wrong with hypocrisy? People would truly see that you can only combat wrong with wrong. What do you do if someone attacks you, do you take the hypocritical approach and attack them back to show them they shouldn't do that, or do you turn the other cheek as Jesus says you should?

Side: Yes it is
1 point

I am no hypocrite because I am no pacifist and I am an Anarchist and wish to abolish any and all laws and regulations in place.

Unless you are of the same ideals, you would be a hypocrite to slaughter a murderer.

I have actually been beaten up many times and intentionally gave the fight up to get the guy in trouble by suspension.

I had bruises, he did not, he won the fight and I won the war. It's called strategic thinking.

Side: No it isn't
1 point

i think governments should work harder to install ethical values in the population rather than overly scaring people into behaving, just a thought and probable impossible task

Side: No it isn't

No. If society deteriorates to the level of the criminal, then we are over as a civilized society. Who is going to rape and sodomize child molesters? For example, if someone raped and sodomized my sister, to be truly fair, you would have to rape and sodomize the rapists sister. How would that be fair? Also where would you get the "decent" non-criminal members of society to perform these heinous acts? Would you volunteer to rape someone? I certainly wouldn't. There is no such thing as true eye for eye justice. It degrades humanity as a whole.

Side: No it isn't
Quocalimar(6470) Clarified
1 point

If your sister is raped, sorry to say it, but you are not the direct victim. If she is sexualy assaulted, her assailant would be sexualy assaulted, maybe by machine or something else uncomfortable.

It's not a literal exchange of exact punishment for crime, it'd be something similar to, or to get as close as possible to showing them what they did was wrong, first hand.

Tortures get tortured, serial killers also get tortured, parents who starve their children, get locked away and starved.

Side: Yes it is
elenadiamond(20) Disputed
1 point

Where would you find someone to do these things? Machines require humans to maintain and operate them. Serial killers get tortured? What if they killed quickly? The point is, if we degrade ourselves as a society to the lowest of the low, then we are lost as humans.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Hypocritical for one and we wouldn't really want to promote that.

Also, some people are mentally ill and were not well treated... I don't know. Just think about that one.

Side: No it isn't

As for being hypocritical, I don't think that'd be a major issue. So what if we are hypocritical if the criminals learn or stop, then so be it.

As for the mentally challenged you raise a good point.

Side: No it isn't
1 point

It's barbaric and useless. It would cause more crime .

Side: No it isn't
1 point

There's always that thirst for complete justice, but it ends up being hypocritical. It's punishing people for committing a crime by committing that exact same crime.

Side: No it isn't
1 point

People who commit crimes are punished, why?

Because crimes are wrong. And if we did unto the criminals the exact same thing, aren't we committing a crime too?

Punishments should be reasonable and also must be inclusive of the thoughts of the person at that time, as well as the factors following to the crime.

Side: No it isn't

Two wrongs don't make a right. And, retaliation through another act of violence is not the answer.

Side: No it isn't