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"Rich Republican Justice Strikes Again", God Dam this Fucking Nation, I hope it Burns, You and everyone knows if this was a poor or middle class minority that killed some in TEXAS of all places, he/she would be put death , but sense this kid came from a rich family and the judge was a hard core republican this motherfucker get off with probation.
This is why rich republicans want government deregulation to pull shit like this with no backlash, to pay off the system in there favor, not because they want states rights, and if you think otherwise for one second you're a fucking idiot. This is the result of conservative politics.
Dude... do you only pay attention to the corrupt Republicans? Are you in denial that Eric Holder is corrupt? How about John Edwards? He's so corrupt, it's sickening. Nancy Pelosi... you'd have to be blind to not see how full of shit she is. Hell, even Obama is constantly accused of corruption! Which shouldn't be surprising since he's a politician from Chicago. Those are the big name politicians too, I can't even imagine what it looks like when you get to judges and the lesser known Democrats.
From 2006-2012 (2013's list hasn't been released yet), the Democratic party has received the title as Most Corrupt. I'm sure they did prior to that as well.
I see whats going on, sure are we have corrupt Demos/Libs but no fucking were near the level of conservative politics, those are the motherfuckers that were in support of slavery, anti civil right, industrial environmental pollution for profit, voter suppression, anti womens right, anti women voter rights and so on, conservatives no matter what the party is.
Demo or Rep means nothing its ideology and history tells us were there is conservative ideology there is major corruption and hindrance of individual freedom on all levels.
Bottom line it has noting to do with party but what that particular parties ideology is at that time, example, conservative Democrats during the time of Abraham Lincoln, my point were there is conservative ideology there is corruption, and if you cant see that you are blind, in denial or flat out delusional.
I see whats going on, sure are we have corrupt Demos/Libs but no fucking were near the level of conservative politics
Prove it.
those are the motherfuckers that were in support of slavery
Just about everyone was in support of slavery at one time. I'm not sure if you know this, but the Republicans and the Democrats used to be a single party.
anti civil right
Well, considering just about everyone supported slavery at one time, I think it's fair to say that almost everyone was once anti-civil rights.
industrial environmental pollution for profit
How is that just a Conservative thing? The Democrats didn't start being green until they realized it would win them votes. I'd say that the good majority of them are full of shit and could care less about the environment.
voter suppression
It seems to me like you're just pointing out political corruption in general...
Alright, I'll stop with your list... the rest just went along with the same pattern.
Demo or Rep means nothing its ideology and history tells us were there is conservative ideology there is major corruption and hindrance of individual freedom on all levels.
I like how you didn't even address the individuals I named. How about this... for every corrupt Republican you can name, I'll name two Democrats.
my point were there is conservative ideology there is corruption, and if you cant see that you are blind, in denial or flat out delusional.
You might want to check your own party before you start accusing someone of being delusional.
Ask any minority in America, I'm willing to bet that 95% of all will say they feel the same.
Just about everyone was in support of slavery at one time. I'm not sure if you know this, but the Republicans and the Democrats used to be a single party.
Dead wrong, it was the conservatives that wanted to preserve there way of living, and for two reason, money and bible, there were many people against slavery mainly the north and the progressives, but don't take my word for it, read up on it.
Well, considering just about everyone supported slavery at one time, I think it's fair to say that almost everyone was once anti-civil rights.
Wrong again, when you say everyone I take it you mean white people because I can tell you right now blacks did not support anti civil rights, also there were many whites that marched side by side with blacks during the civil rights movement, now maybe most of the southern whites were anti civil rights but not the north, FYI whites are not the center of the world or America for that matter.
How is that just a Conservative thing? The Democrats didn't start being green until they realized it would win them votes. I'd say that the good majority of them are full of shit and could care less about the environment.
I somewhat agree, both parties are victims of there own greed, however conservative always been about profit at all cost, remember the cigarette ads of the 1960's? yeah my point, remember the Erin Brockovich case? yeah my point, conservatives will lie or be in denial more then someone with a liberal/progressive mind set ,conservatives are likely to protect there self interest first and foremost, my reason is due to how there brains are wired, conservative are more likely to believe in God because God servers there self interest, so that being said a person who agrees more with the conservative ideology tends to be more self serving then a liberal or progressive by physiological nature.
It seems to me like you're just pointing out political corruption in general...
Alright, I'll stop with your list... the rest just went along with the same pattern
My balls, what party is trying to suppress voters? go ahead tell me?, because I know for dam sure you are not dumb, I consider you one of the more intellectual debates on this site, I have debated with you many times and you know for dam sure its not the democrats trying to suppress votes with voter ID laws. I know you are trying to protect your point but come on man really?
I like how you didn't even address the individuals I named. How about this... for every corrupt Republican you can name, I'll name two Democrats.
Lol ok I'll own you in two words, Tea Party
You might want to check your own party before you start accusing someone of being delusional.
Like my stance on religion I think its all bullshit, I just call it like I see it, as of right now the conservatives republicans are more delusional.
Ask any minority in America, I'm willing to bet that 95% of all will say they feel the same.
Except for the minorities who are Republicans.
Dead wrong, it was the conservatives that wanted to preserve there way of living, and for two reason, money and bible, there were many people against slavery mainly the north and the progressives, but don't take my word for it, read up on it.
Dude... do you think slavery only existed during the Civil War?
Wrong again, when you say everyone I take it you mean white people because I can tell you right now blacks did not support anti civil rights
Ha... well, no shit!
also there were many whites that marched side by side with blacks during the civil rights movement
It seems like you're only thinking of the most significant points in the history of civil rights. Do I have to be so politically correct for you to understand what I meant?
now maybe most of the southern whites were anti civil rights but not the north
Once again... you're only thinking of a specific point in history.
FYI whites are not the center of the world or America for that matter.
Wow... you're coming off like you think I'm some racist prick. When did I ever say whites are the "center of the world"? I never even implied it.
however conservative always been about profit at all cost, remember the cigarette ads of the 1960's?
Do you even remember the 1960's? LOL!
I didn't grow up in the 60's, but I know what you're talking about. FDR used to do cocaine... what's your point? Times have changed. I don't see how you think Democrats are any better.
yeah my point, remember the Erin Brockovich case? yeah my point conservatives will lie or be in denial more then someone with a liberal/progressive mind set
Remember Roland Burris? Remember Barbara Boxer? How about Barney Frank and Maxine Walters? Jesse Jackson Jr.? Charles Rangel? William Jefferson? John Murtha? Shit... I better stop. I was going to use some of those names for when you started naming corrupt Republicans.
My balls, what party is trying to suppress voters?
Do you really think that the Democratic Party is above voter suppression? Get real! Did they not try to suppress military voters?
go ahead tell me?, because I know for dam sure you are not dumb, I consider you one of the more intellectual debates on this site, I have debated with you many times
Well, I'm glad that you seem to think you have a better grasp on the topic. I clearly think that you don't, but that's just me.
While I have agreed with you in the past, you seem to be delusional when it comes to the Democratic Party. My goal is to help you realize that the Democrats aren't any better than the Republicans and that they are actually much worse in particular areas. While the same could be said for Republicans, it's also clear to me that you have an extraordinarily strong bias and choose to ignore the good and focus on the bad... and with the Democrats, you usually focus on the reverse.
you know for dam sure its not the democrats trying to suppress votes with voter ID laws.
Dude... do you think slavery only existed during the Civil War?
Hell no, thousands of years of slavery, but why is that? because conservative mind sets did not want to break traditions, progressive thinking would never accept slavery of any kind, as a matter of fact progressive thinkers got put to death in the past for (thinking outside the mainstream), However I do blame ALL slavery throughout history on conservative thinking.
Wow... you're coming off like you think I'm some racist prick. When did I ever say whites are the "center of the world"? I never even implied it.
Not at all man, I don't think you are racist, I just got thrown off by how you phased your post, in a nut shell stating "everyone" this to me sounded off, sounded as if people of color had no worth in society, that is how the people of that time felt that oppressed the freeing of slaves and the civil right, but I knew what you meant, like I said I don't think you are racist at all, I'm sure it just came out wrong, happens to me all the time.
Do you even remember the 1960's? LOL!
I didn't grow up in the 60's, but I know what you're talking about. FDR used to do cocaine... what's your point? Times have changed. I don't see how you think Democrats are any better.
As a matter of fact I do with the help of historical records and old video of that time, also times have not changed that much, we just know how to hide it better, "Ronald Jesus Reagen" administration was mixed up with south America drug King Pins (how funny though, his Wife was the founder of "Just Say No" campaign slogan) and I was alive at that time so....
Do you really think that the Democratic Party is above voter suppression? Get real! Did they not try to suppress military voters?
Lol bullshit lies straight out of Foxes mouth, if anything its the other way around I know many people serving and they talk, Oh and how about the conservative military command structure trying to cover up "RAPE" of the female soldiers?
Well, I'm glad that you seem to think you have a better grasp on the topic. I clearly think that you don't, but that's just me.
While I have agreed with you in the past, you seem to be delusional when it comes to the Democratic Party. My goal is to help you realize that the Democrats aren't any better than the Republicans and that they are actually much worse in particular areas. While the same could be said for Republicans, it's also clear to me that you have an extraordinarily strong bias and choose to ignore the good and focus on the bad... and with the Democrats, you usually focus on the reverse.
I guess we can work at opening each others eyes then, look I'm open to truth but you got to have proof to back it up, I'm not saying that what you are telling me is false info I just don't see it, and I do dig for truth, Like I said many times in the past I know that the Demos are dirty cock suckers too, but from my research and historical reading I came to the conclusion that what ever party or government embraces the conservative ideology they tend to me the most corrupt, more then just lies, but a hindrance of a humans personal freedom to live in peace.
Sure Demo's love to play God with over taxation, big government but so what, I'll take big brother any day of the week so long as I can fuck who I want, marry who I want, smoke what I want and not be enslaved or treated and different because of the color of my skin or economic back round, so I guess it's pick your poison and my poison is personal freedom.
So how are the Democrats doing it?
I don't know because they are not, or at least no proof as of yet so...
Hell no, thousands of years of slavery, but why is that? because conservative mind sets did not want to break traditions
Would you consider our founding father's to be conservative?
I just got thrown off by how you phased your post, in a nut shell stating "everyone" this to me sounded off, sounded as if people of color had no worth in society
Okay... so in other words, you DID think I was racist. Hmm... well, I'll have to go back and look at it. I certainly didn't intend to come off like that.
As a matter of fact I do with the help of historical records and old video of that time
Uhh... isn't that how every person born after the 60's gets their information on that decade?
"Ronald Jesus Reagen" administration was mixed up with south America drug King Pins (how funny though, his Wife was the founder of "Just Say No" campaign slogan) and I was alive at that time so....
I love how Democrats refuse to accept that Reagan was a decent president. Rather than coming together as Americans and saying, "Yeah... he was pretty good. We need more like him.", you'd probably vote an asshole into office just because he has a "D" next to his name.
Lol bullshit lies straight out of Foxes mouth
I don't even watch Fox News. You said that you research this stuff... how did you miss the Obama campaign's lawsuit against Ohio regarding military voter rights?
if anything its the other way around I know many people serving and they talk
Oh, good grief! Really? What do they say?
Oh and how about the conservative military command structure trying to cover up "RAPE" of the female soldiers?
How about the Democratic representative who was convicted of child rape back in 2000?
look I'm open to truth but you got to have proof to back it up
Okay, I gave you multiple names in my previous argument. Can you deny their corruption?
and I do dig for truth
Then one of us isn't digging deep enough.
Like I said many times in the past I know that the Demos are dirty cock suckers too, but from my research and historical reading I came to the conclusion that what ever party or government embraces the conservative ideology they tend to me the most corrupt
You really should focus on the 21st century. The Democrats have been named Most Corrupt every year since 2006.
more then just lies, but a hindrance of a humans personal freedom to live in peace.
This is why occasionally you need leaders from both parties to balance the situation out. Decisions that the Democrats have made while in office has helped the Republican party evolve. The Republicans aren't going to purposefully do anything to cost them votes, so the important social changes that the Democrats have made will stick.
Here is the thing, both parties are corrupt, both ideologies are corrupt and flawed, to sit here and point out everything that's wrong will takes years.
I would love to see a no party system, we just vote on the person not the party, I think more often then people do tend to just vote based on if they see a D or R next to the ballet box, I vote on who I think is the best person that fits my views, so yes I would vote for a republican if he is the right person that meshes with my views.
However that's not the case when we have party politics, Demo or Rep, candidates are not in control, who is in control is that particular parties agenda, and the reason I really don't side well with Rep is not that the candidate is a bad choice, its that I don't trust that parties religious agenda, and when we are dealing with a conservative controlled party (Rep) in this case I fear the wrath of the religious intuition's mingling in our government and that to me is a MAJOR no, no, if the Demo/Lib party was the party of bible thumpers I'm voting Rep for sure.
If this was the 1930's I would not touch the Demo party because that party was at that time conservative and conservative means religion, I want to stay as far away from religion having any influence in government as humanly possible.
Here is the thing, both parties are corrupt, both ideologies are corrupt and flawed, to sit here and point out everything that's wrong will takes years.
I think it would be worthwhile to compile a list of corruption from both sides, from this century and maybe a little bit of the 90's, and see which party appears to be more corrupt... but if you don't want to go along with it, then that's fine.
I think more often then people do tend to just vote based on if they see a D or R next to the ballet box
Yeah. Just look at the pattern. If we have a shitty Democrat for a president, a Republican gets elected next... or vice versa.
its that I don't trust that parties religious agenda, and when we are dealing with a conservative controlled party (Rep) in this case I fear the wrath of the religious intuition's mingling in our government and that to me is a MAJOR no, no, if the Demo/Lib party was the party of bible thumpers I'm voting Rep for sure.
Okay... fair enough. I'm not religious, you should know that by now. I just weigh my decisions based on who I think is the lesser of the two evils.
The reason why I tend to go after your political debates is because you post the most ridiculous crap and play it off like it is a typical Republican. It's kind of like if I were to post a video of a black guy robbing a bank and claim that all black people are criminals. People would be describing me in two ways if I were to say that... one would obviously be "racist", but the other would be "misinformed", and that's the word that comes to mind whenever I see one of your Republican debates.
conservative means religion
Uhh... maybe I'm getting the wrong idea with that statement, but just in case... you do know that's not actually true, right?
I'm going to leave this debate with a few quotes and final thoughts.
"I'm not saying all conservatives are racist but if you are racist you're probably conservative."
"There is a reason 95% of all minorities do not agree with conservative politics, and its not a coincidence."
"Most gays, atheist & agnostic people are not conservative due to religion being a conservatives guiding principle"
I know you side more with conservative politics and my bet is you at one point were a hardcore conservative, however I think because of your stance on religion seeing as you're agnostic conflicts with there core view so I'm guessing you call yourself libertarian as most ex conservatives do when they lose belief in God.
This is fine, I get that, but by protecting conservative politics you are only going to hurt atheist and agnostic people, open your eyes, those conservatives will hang you out to dry if they found out you no longer accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.
Again I will state both parties are fucked but I will not side with any party or ideology that uses religion as there core foundation to there political structure, siding with any conservative politics you are selling yourself out.
I know you side more with conservative politics and my bet is you at one point were a hardcore conservative
I only side with them for the sake of the debates. I supported Obama back in 08, so I've never been a hardcore Conservative or Liberal. I just choose based on which candidate I think is best.
however I think because of your stance on religion seeing as you're agnostic conflicts with there core view so I'm guessing you call yourself libertarian as most ex conservatives do when they lose belief in God.
I don't call myself anything. I hate politics LOL! I know that many conservatives are overly religious, but I also know that I'm rarely impressed by a Democrat. Obama for example. He ran on a moral agenda and ditched it once he got into office.
This is fine, I get that, but by protecting conservative politics you are only going to hurt atheist and agnostic people
Ugh... no I'm not. People have become so whiney, especially Liberals. It makes me want to puke. That's part of the reason I don't like them.
open your eyes, those conservatives will hang you out to dry if they found out you no longer accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.
Okay, I'd look at them and say, "Why do you give a shit? A vote is a vote."
Again I will state both parties are fucked but I will not side with any party or ideology that uses religion as there core foundation to there political structure
Sometimes you need to weigh the pros and the cons. Pro: He'll fix our economy. Con: He believes in God... but so does the majority of the world.
Sometimes you need to weigh the pros and the cons. Pro: He'll fix our economy. Con: He believes in God... but so does the majority of the world.
That's only a problem if xe tries to enforce xir religion on us, otherwise I'll judge based on xir policies.
Ugh... no I'm not. I think people have become so whiney, especially Liberals. It makes me want to puke. That's part of the reason I don't like them.
Yes, and political correctness just makes it worse :P
I don't call myself anything. I hate politics LOL! I know that many conservatives are overly religious, but I also know that I'm rarely impressed by a Democrat. Obama for example. He ran on a moral agenda and ditched it once he got into office.
Lol Cute, look I voted republican before, I voted for Bush the first time, pre 911, well I was a Christian back then but still, when i started to question my faith i started to see how much the conservatives oppressed people thanks to religion, i dislike conservatism only because of how much control religion has a hold on that ideology.
I would vote republican so long as we get rid of the tea party Jesus freaks and get back to moderate politics on things that count like progressing the country not converting every citizen to accept Jesus.
Yeah and for good reason, I support moderate republicans, like Chris Christie, but the Bat-shit Bacmann, Idiot Palin, Macho man Ryan, Sell out Rubio, Canadian born Crews and Fony Paul (not his dad i kind of like him) and the gang I do not support, those cock suckers are a treat to America and what America stands for, if they had there way every single public school would have prayer day and teach evolution is a lie, abortion made illegal in all 50 states and gays would be pretty much stoned to death, how anyone that is for freedom can support those dicks need to get there head checked.
I just felt I kind of got off track with my point as to why i dislike conservatism, its really all because of the religious hold, to me anyone who is blinded by religion tends to be blinded by important issues that i take dearly, in a nut shell "personal freedom" and because so (I might be wrong) to me seems that a conservative is more prone to corruption thanks to them believing in the good book of slavery, murder, rape, incest, genocide and so on, so I just figured i will stick to the real reason i dislike conservatism.
This is the reason i tried to not say Republicans because that can be misleading as not all Republicans are Evangelical bible thumpers that thinks the earth is 6 thousand years old and the the end times are near.
a conservative is more prone to corruption thanks to them believing in the good book of slavery, murder, rape, incest, genocide and so on, so I just figured i will stick to the real reason i dislike conservatism.
Actually, Christians are less prone to corruption. You said you were a Christian once... so were you more corruptible then? I bet your parents are Christians... are they more prone to corruption than you?
This is the reason i tried to not say Republicans because that can be misleading as not all Republicans are Evangelical bible thumpers that thinks the earth is 6 thousand years old and the the end times are near.
I know plenty of Christians. They aren't nearly as bad as you make them out to be. You must only be aware of the radical nut jobs.
Plus, you're an Agnostic! At least part of you probably thinks that they may be right.
Though I agree its ridiculous that the teen is getting nothing but probation there is more to the story of the Oklahoman woman. It appears she was a regular drug dealer and an undercover cop went to her house twice 2 weeks apart to buy weed totaling up to $31.
No matter, you are telling me weed, a harmless plant would get you 10 years in prison but vehicular manslaughter of 4 people gets you probation?
What the fuck kind of world do we live in lol, I dont care if this women sold $100,000 worth of pot there is no way in hell this should get you 10 years and a murderer gets off easy because there family has money.
I will say it again God Damn America, and we should be ashamed.
Those who knoew me on this site know that I follow no religions, however I LOVE this sermon, this shit gives me CHILLS and this is coming from a hard core Agnostic/ Atheist called Warjin.
Money does indeed talk. I am afraid though that the media will twist like they did with Snowden. Instead of challenging whether the legal system did the right thing, they are probably going to discuss something like whether teenage drunk driving is a problem instead.
MONEY BUYS JUSTICE'' IF THIS WAS ANY AVERAGE JOE'S SON'' FIRST IT WOULD NOT MAKE ANY HEADLINES'' WE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AVERAGE JOE SON WOULD BE AWAITING EXECUTION.. OR 4 LIFE TERM SENTENCE FOR EACH LIFE THAT WAS TAKEN..
2) IF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES,, AVERAGE JOE PARENTS WOULD NOT AS MUCH AS THEY LOVE THEIR SON ,WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE AGAINST HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY HIGH PROFILE LAWYERS TO SPIN THEIR CASE CREATING THIS NEW CLASS FOR THE PRIVILEGED RICH KIDS.
A NEW LOOP HOLE TO NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS.. ORDINARY PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO BE RESPONSIBLE..AND MAN UP WHEN THEY MAKE A TRAGIC MISTAKE LIKE TAKING 4 HUMAN LIVES, AT THE SAME TIME DESTROYING FAMILIES AND THEIR LOVED ONES FOREVER..
TO THE PARENTS. AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM''. YOU JUST THOUGHT YOUR SON NOTHING ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY '' ONLY THAT HIS LIFE IS WORTH MORE'' THAN THE ONES HE TOOK...
I HOPE THEY TAKE YOU TO THE DRY CLEANERS AND BACK WITH A HUGE WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT..HIT YOU WHERE IT HURTS....
This is absolute bullshit.The punishment does not fit the crime.Once they decided to insult the victims families with probation they gave him four years and didn't even consider probation for life .So he got a year probation for every life he took.If this was the other way around as if a poor kid killed four innocent people while driving drunk I think the verdict would've gone in a more appropriate direction in punishment.Just saying...
If there is any hope this kid to not be permanently fucked up, it's not going to come from time in prison.
Warjin, you're shoehorning politics into this for an excuse to have another rant (not debate) about conservatives. I looked at the video and read the article, but shockingly did not find anything about the judge being republican. If you can point me to it that would be great.
Bullshit, if this was a black kid he would be doing LIFE, and yes the judge was a conservative bitch that got paid off.
The kid should of got jail time, maybe not 20 years but jail time, why because that is LAW, Texas is quick to send a black or Hispanic to jail for dime bags of weed and give the death penalty if they commit murder, but the little rich white boy get off with a slap on the wrist, FUCK THAT, this is whats wrong with our system and has been for many decades, this is why conservatives will never take back America, the bigotry, favoritism and fucking pay offs.
(Yes, yes, yes I know Democrats are corrupted as well), but at least those motherfuckers are not open racist bible thumping rednecks, they at least have the decency to hind there racism and at least try to cover up there corruption, not that it makes it any better but as a minority this type of shit boils my blood because I went though it first hand myself when I was young.
Our system is fucked.
Oh and Mr. Bitch is a republican, link below, and yes people are asking for her resignation because of her verdict. She is a fucking disgrace to our justice system.
Judge Jean Boyd is a Republican judge who has presided over the 323rd Family District Court since 1995.
Bullshit, if this was a black kid he would be doing LIFE, and yes the judge was a conservative bitch that got paid off.
The kid should of got jail time, maybe not 20 years but jail time, why because that is LAW, Texas is quick to send a black or Hispanic to jail for dime bags of weed and give the death penalty if they commit murder, but the little rich white boy get off with a slap on the wrist, FUCK THAT, this is whats wrong with our system and has been for many decades, this is why conservatives will never take back America, the bigotry, favoritism and fucking pay offs.
Yeah, red herring. I'm aware that a minority would've gotten a much heavier sentence. I just don't see where you tie it in.
"should" is a weird word to use. Positive law isn't build on "should".
(Yes, yes, yes I know Democrats are corrupted as well)
That's guitar guy. I never even mentioned democrats, or at least didn't insinuate something about them.
Positive law isn't build on pay offs and bigotry because of the color of your skin or the status of you bank account, justice is blind remember that, or should be, the statue of lady liberty clearly represents that.
Positive law isn't build on pay offs and bigotry because of the color of your skin or the status of you bank account, justice is blind remember that, or should be, the statue of lady liberty clearly represents that.
Positive law:
1. statutes that have been laid down by a legislature, court, or other human institution and which can take whatever form the authors want.
Natural law is built off justice, it doesn't seem like positive law really is huh.
Also, now that we've established that the judge is republican, you're going to have to at least prove how exactly having those political views gave way to the individual's "corruption", and then how this makes conservatives and/or republicans this way.
Also, now that we've established that the judge is republican, you're going to have to at least prove how exactly having those political views gave way to the individual's "corruption", and then how this makes conservatives and/or republicans this way.
For that I would have to go into the history of conservatism itself, and have to go into the psychological mind set of a person who follows that ideology, for now Ill just link you a video on conservatism.
I saw the first half of this video before, I tuned out. Now I have finished seeing it, I don't how you've actually shown that people having conservative views are more prone to corruption due to it.
Not all conservatives are corrupt, my point is people that follow a conservative mind set tend to be fixed on there ways, they lack the mind set of progression or letting go of the past, (if it isn't broke for them why fix it),the conservative mind set is what leads to so much resistance, prime examples are the freeing of the slave, the civil rights movement and so on, and in today's America we can see this with the the attempt to restrict homosexuals equal freedom.
To be a conservative is to (conserve), for better for worse a conservative will be very reluctant to any change and at times hinders and harm others due to there underlining principal.
The bible is a perfect example of conservative thinking, it took us more then 2 thousand years for most humans to agree that slavery is wrong, this took so long because of the conservative mind set many people of the world held toward the owning of other human beings, I am sure many deep down inside knew it was wrong but they turned a blind eye in order to preserve there traditions, greed or flat out self preservation, this is what true conservatism lead to. (its the slow motion button in human progress)
Humans need to shed conservatism in order to truly reach our fullest potential, we as a human species would be exploring and colonizing other planets by now if it wasn't for conservative principals hindering progression throughout history.
So it is not that all conservative people are corrupt its that the conservative ideology harbors the corrupt more then any other ideology on earth, another example is extremest Islam, the KKK, Neo Nazi skin heads, and to an extent Hitler as he wanted to (Preserve)
You're misunderstanding what conservatism means. The point isn't simply to slow progress down, but to conserve what we have already. There is nothing in the ideology that says that we have to hold onto to everything as is and move as slowly as possible, if at all.
Conservatism means to conserve, because of this human progress is much slower, those that are conservative are reluctant to change, they do change but at a much slower pace, however I mainly dislike conservatism because of one simple fact, they embrace religion into there politics, if It wasn't for that I wouldn't be as harsh as I am toward conservative politics.
Conservatism means to conserve, because of this human progress is much slower, those that are conservative are reluctant to change
Okay, now you're just saying the same things over again. Conserving is not tantamount to stagnating.
I mainly dislike conservatism because of one simple fact, they embrace religion into there politics
It depends on the conservative. If anything, people pushing religion into government is not the real concern, it's reflective of the real problem with our society, which is the religion itself.
I agree so long as thats the case, (President John Kennedy was a hard core Catholic, but he knew to keep religion and government apart, unlike the Jesus Tea Party of today) as we can see with religion in today's government, religion has wayyyyyyyy to much power and pull, look what they are trying to do with gays, so at this point its to damn risky to trust any person with religious convictions in todays politics.
If I sense an evangelical bone in a candidates body I will not support no matter what, my democracy will not be at risk of being turned into a theocracy, over my dead body.
look what they are trying to do with gays, so at this point its to damn risky to trust any person with religious convictions in todays politics.
Like not allowing gay marriage? Well, while I do agree that gays should be allowed to get married, you have to wonder why they'd want to take part in a religious tradition in the first place.
What I'm trying to ask is what reasons do religious people have to not expand the influence of their religion?
America is not a theocracy that the reason, also we are a nation of many faiths accepting one over another is against the Constitution, America must be neutral, I for one am not for any religious influence in our government whats so ever, if I had my way i would remove "In God We Trust" from our money.
Of course this was a travesty and the kid should have gone to jail. But your rant should go both ways. How about all the liberal judges who give probation to child molesters. Those sick bastards purposely screw up children for life for their own sexual pleasure, and they don't give a damn.
Of course IF your a typical liberal you believe they should get help and avoid jail because its not their fault.
Warjin, you're shoehorning politics into this for an excuse to have another rant (not debate) about conservatives.
You god dam right, I hate them motherfuckers with a passion because I know how they think and what they are about, walk a mile in my shoes and you would too, or 95% of any other minorities shoes.
Well not really both my parents where born in Puerto Rico, I was born in PA, however what is a Puerto Rican?
Its a mix of native islander (Taino Indian), Black slaves (from Africa) and European Spanish (white) straight off of Christopher Columbus's Ships lol
Puerto Rico means "Rich Port" because the island was a "Slave Auction House" for black slaves stolen from Africa, from there they sold the Black, however hundreds of years of rape both of the native (Tieno Indians) and Black slaves we have me and your modern day Puerto Rican people : )
I have black thick hair (Indian DNA), Blue Eyes (European DNA) and an African penis (Thank God for DNA lol) joking but yeah you can see some facial features like full lips, wider nose, thick skin ,my grandfather was black, and i mean BLACK like cole, if it wasn't that he spoke Spanish you would think he was your average black man from Africa, my other grandfather had blond hair blue eyes, looked like one of Hitlers henchmen lol and both my grandmothers looks like Pocahontas, long black hair, red skin ect.
Warjin is a product of oppression, it's in my DNA what can i say : )
Supporting Evidence:
Taino Indian
(www.topuertorico.org)
Well not really both my parents where born in Puerto Rico, I was born in PA, however what is a Puerto Rican?
I know ginger Puerto Ricans. What's your point?
my grandfather was black, and i mean BLACK like cole
Like Nat King Cole?
You seem really proud of the Taino Indian in you. You mention it a lot. I'm Apache, which is way cooler... LOL!
Okay... so you have a diverse racial background... you still look white though. I just don't see how you could feel so oppressed. Can you provide some examples?
You seem really proud of the Taino Indian in you. You mention it a lot. I'm Apache, which is way cooler... LOL!
Okay... so you have a diverse racial background... you still look white though. I just don't see how you could feel so oppressed. Can you provide some examples?
Apache Booo lol joking man, the thing is most Americans are mixed and don't even know it, most blacks in America are brown not black like a pure blood African which i think my grandfather was.
The people over there <----- are only mad because it just happened to be a rich kid and now they are going all conspiracy theory apeshit about it. If this happened to a lower class citizen, then I am sure he would have been punished the same way.