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What are your socialist thoughts on socialists being nihilistic fascist scum?

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So, Karl Marks didn't like communism. So, why are conservatives always connecting socialism to communism? Hitler didn't like socialists, so why are conservatives always connecting socialism to fascism??

They all three can be connect to nationalism … what Trump says HE is.

There never has been a "perfect" political system, but MOST have their good points. It follows that we must take the good points of "most", incorporate them into THEE best of them, democracy, and make a "more perfect union" with fairly regulated capitalism, separation of church and state, social programs to protect those who need protection and to prevent poverty, a FAIR tax plan for everyone, and the right to believe whatever you want to believe. This atheist doesn't really sound like a communist, does he??:-)

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So, Karl Marks didn't like communism

Karl Marx literally wrote "The Communist Manifesto"...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheCommunistManifesto

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So, why are conservatives always connecting socialism to communism?

Because Communists literally connect Socialism to Communism...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX6SppTVAAEVGu7.jpg

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You are correct there. Communist have always done whatever they wanted. I don't like communists … or nationalists, or socialists, or fascists. But, as my "grammaw" used to say, there's SOME good in everybody, you just have to find it. I'm sure there's SOME good in YOU, Bront … I just have to find it ….. ;-)

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Hitler didn't like socialists, so why are conservatives always connecting socialism to fascism??

Because the creator of Fascism literally connected it to Communism and Socialism...

Benedetto Croce wrote that Gentile "... holds the honor of having been the most rigorous neo-Hegelian in the entire history of Western philosophy and the dishonor of having been the official philosopher of Fascism in Italy."[15] His philosophical basis for fascism was rooted in his understanding of ontology and epistemology, in which he found vindication for the rejection of individualism, and acceptance of collectivism, with the state as the ultimate location of authority and loyalty outside of which individuality had no meaning (and which in turn helped justify the totalitarian dimension of fascism).[16]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni Gentile

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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You can find ANYTHING in Wikipedia to make about ANY point. If you still don't think for yourself it can get very confusing. Wikipedia is handy, but, I have my own thoughts.

Yes, fascism has its own totalitarian dimension, as does communism, as does an oligarchy, as does several other "strong leader" societies. (They're so nihilistic ;-). That's why I lean towards "Demokratia", as the Greeks called it in 500 BC, or "self government by the people." It's obvious Trump (and you), doesn't like that shit.

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Nihilism is great for creating death cults and tyrannical overlords. Marx basically tried to eradicate religion to make room for the one he created.

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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While TRUMP uses tyrannical cults to create an "overlord". Trump tries to eradicate all but ONE religion, the one that "created" HIM!

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While TRUMP uses tyrannical cults

If Christianity is a tyrannical cult, your party is oozing with said cult. Interestingly enough, you claimed Jesus was a beautiful Socialist, just to turn around and claim the Mexicans' and Blacks' religion is a tyrannical cult in order to slime a group with their same religion.

to create an "overlord".

So show Trump being an "overlord".

Trump tries to eradicate all but ONE religion

He's literally the most pro Jewish President in history despite not being a Jew...

The one that "created" HIM!

The media who used to praise and love him?

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