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Debate Score:43
Arguments:34
Total Votes:49
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If there is no body, was there a murder?

Yes

Side Score: 28
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No

Side Score: 15
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If there is no body, was there a murder?

Hello G:

"Murder", is a legal determination. As such, it can mean many things.. It's an extremely malleable term. Can a jury find someone guilty of "murder" WITHOUT a body? Sure. Does being found not guilty of murder, body or not, mean an accused didn't actually kill somebody? Nahh..

So, here's my answer.. Even IF there's no body, a murder COULD have happened.. Even if there WAS a body, a murder might NOT have happened..

excon

Side: Yes
2 points

If someone was murdered then of course there was a murder, with or without a body.

Proving the case against the suspected guilty party will always force the prosecution to work harder.

There have been cases where suspects, such as Nat Fraser and Lindy Chamberlain have been convicted of murder without the body of the victim being discovered.

Side: Yes
1 point

If someone was murdered then of course there was a murder, with or without a body

But if there is no body then you can't prove they've been murdered you stupid imbecile. Do you understand literally nothing?

Side: No
Amarel(5150) Disputed
2 points

But if there is no body then you can't prove they've been murdered you stupid imbecile.

You do not need proof of something for it to have occurred. I can't believe this needs to be explained. If someone assaults you, and you can't prove it, you were still assaulted.

Furthermore, if someone committed a murder at sea in front of witnesses and they dump the body never to be seen again, but then they confess, then you have no body and a murder with a conviction.

Side: Yes
2 points

When I read the question I presumed it by ‘posed’ by someone with extremely limited intelligence, how pleasant it was to know I was right ......again

Side: Yes
1 point

When I read the question I presumed it by ‘posed’ by someone with extremely limited intelligence

It's funny how you make these accusations despite not being able to write coherently in your own indigenous language.

Side: No
Dermot(5796) Disputed
2 points

It's correct how you make these observations, have you noted also I’m not able to write coherently in my own indigenous language.

I have , I make allowances for it

Side: Yes
1 point

Is there a weapon covered in blood.Is there blood on the floor.Is there bullets on the floor holes in the walls a floors.Rope on the ground.This is a stupid discussion.I just described a few murder scenarios.But there is no body so it can't be proved by the cops.The cops need a body to prove that it is a mud er or suicide.

Side: Yes
0 points

Maybe. Is there a witness? Is there any obvious signs of a struggle? Is there any physical evidence that ties a suspect to a scene? For instance, say that person A goes to person B's house to kill him. Are person A's fingerprints in that house without any reasonable explanation? Is there a big splatter of blood on the wall? Did person C see person A carry a rolled up rug out the door with feet sticking out one end? Then it may not yet be a murder, but person A has some serious heat.

On the other end, if person A knows how to set up an accident or suicide, there can be a body and no murder.

Side: Yes
1 point

If the body is not found then too it can be a murder case. Why can't it be?

In movies and even in real-life too the investigating team often faces such cases where the murder has have happened but the body couldn't be found.

It is so obvious that the murderer to hide his/her crime could have possibly hidden the body somewhere or burned it or disposed of the body parts at different isolated places where you possibly can't even imagine.

So yes, I believe that even if there's no body found, a murder can be suspected.

Side: No
1 point

If the body is not found then too it can be a murder case. Why can't it be?

Because you can't prove that anybody was murdered.

Side: Yes