Yeah, if people didn't give him the get out of logic free card we might say he's afraid the devil might call celestial bullshit.

You know. I Wish Satan would write a book to. Or at least have ghost writers like God. I'd like to hear what he has to say. Right now we have one guy going "That guy is super evil! No really, he's dangerous." and the other guy is like, bound to a chair and gagged. After much extensive research I have decided that hearing a story from one person is a shaky definition of the truth.

Right name calling. Ultimate move in a debate. Your the one saying maybe everyone in the world will want to die.

He's not special and he's kind of a republican in sheep's clothing, but he's only average. Not any worse than his major competition.

Well. Yes. If everyone wants to die then why must they live? Everyone gets there way and we do the planet a real solid by getting off its back.

why does not having a body make him non-alien. Those points are unrelated. Being alien is about where you are from, not what you are made of.

When did I say they had to be cripple? You just made that up now. Nice straw man-No-Jutsu. I can't see what difference there physical condition makes.

Not really. They where just raised in a theocratic way. Can't be helped. Its why I hate "Faith". The concept of being right becuase you feel right is a stupidly OP piece of political ammo.

"For major transactions in finance you need a public officer to witness, your signature, his signature, the official in-charges, and the professional actually handling the account."

Really? Are you sure? I thought I said something like this ^ before mentioning a doctor. A system of oversight to prevent abuse similar to the financial sector design I explained.

What he was advocating was not important. And neither is Rome's use of that tactic. Those are not relevant pieces of information. I don't think you know how a battle works. It not lord of the rings. You don't just have one big last man standing clash. Its a matter of fighting over days or weeks. Sometimes months. This is why leaders are important. Politics effect a number of things. Foreign resource intake. Officer assignment. What units are held in reserve as reinforcements and which are on the front lines. Soldier moral is greatly affected by the political relationship between the Generals. If you have to Generals who are politically at odds then the soldiers may desert or may not cooperate, food may be horded which weakens the formation. Thats especially problematic in places where your army isn't unified. Places like Greece.

Your really missing the point. Who does the killing is not important. Its the levels of independant oversight.

Well its not. But if you applied as a trained assassin they would probably arrest you for being an assassin. Assassins are not legal for unrelated reasons.

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You missed the whole point, its about consent and oversight. Above I explained an entire system of over site and all you got out of it was Doctor, the least important part.

Ok "politics has nothing to do with a battle" I am just going to toss over my shoulder and tell you to read art of war, or the five rings, or the CIA freedom fighter's manual, or any successful book concerning war. They can tell you why you are wrong so much better than I can. Bad administration is very often why armies fall.

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Also artillery is not as damaging as what they used to do. Greeks had a bad habit of, after destroying farmland, spoiling the soil. There are a number of ways to do this, but salt or oil after burning are popular tools. I've heard of something extensive as dumping the top soil in the ocean as well, but that one seems like it may be more myth than fact. If real at all, a last ditch solution at best.

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I think the Romans adopted this practice of ruining the soil like that, but I won't say they did because I don't know for sure.

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Point is it kills the roots of anything you plant for decades to come. With out modern technology you have to simply wait for the problem to fix itself and Nature is slow.

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And lets assume for a moment 100% of the land that was recovered. They still didn't have much land to farm with to begin with (hence the popularization of destroying farmland). Their armor is still made out of money that could have been used to to buy horses, ships, or fortification. They are still a distrustful political patch work. They still wouldn't use captured Roman items if they had iron in them since iron was seen as disgraceful. They even had a villain who's name translated into club man, who was looked down on for having an iron rod he beat people with.

A monkey could. Just state the obvious. For major transactions in finance you need a public officer to witness, your signature, his signature, the official in-charges, and the professional actually handling the account.

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With a slimier system in place to over see the trained professional actually putting the person down (because you want a professional doctor doing that, not just anyone) its quit improbable that this would be a method of murder. Its simpler and safer to murder the old fashion way.

I wonder how many of those games where in the victims rooms as well. This is like when they where like 80% of cancer patients in America chew gum. At the time over 90% of the country chewed gum so it was just retarded.That kid plays violent games because most popular games are violent and most kids (and male adults for that matter) play violent games.

I feel like your trying to troll me with that argument. I can't tell if your seriously putting this forward as an idea or if this is a joke.

Oh I know. But supporting individual rights means I have to hear them talk and can't just give them a go to jail free card.

If your gonna be Devil's advocate then you have to put forward and argument. Not a conclusion.

You don't really have a good time scale on recovery do you. With modern technology Europe is still repairing farms destroyed in world war one. A war that no one I will ever meet can remember. That with modern technology and the combined effort of all of Europe's resources.

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Now jump back a bit. Feudal Greece. A number of isolated City governments ruled by selfish Feudal lords who care little for the common folk as a rule and have little mobility in their mountain terrain. Not only that, but after Athen's hijacked the Deliem League and turned it into an empire All of the Atican civilizations have 0 trust and cooperation with their economic hub. How quickly do you think they recovered. Distrust in Greece tended to last centuries. They knew how to hold a proper grudge. Some of the Rivalries predate the Alpha Beta system of writing and lasted into the time of Rome, especially with Thebans

Despite how much I hate right wingers as people and religious fundies, I have to say that personal rights are more important. I believe dictators can rule well, and even better than democracies. However those dictators are few and far because real leaders in humans are few and far. Most humans seem not to have it in them.

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A Wise man said a person is smart, but People are dumb. The end should read a person is good or evil, people don't give a damn enough to qualify. I'd rather have dumb and apathetic at the wheel than Smart and selfish evil.

Its hard to justify not killing a person who wants to die in system where you can kill people who cannot decide. (Abortion) A dog is a dog because of his Genes. A man is a man because of his brain power?...I'll shut up as to not thread jack OP. But Assisted death being illegal is not justifiable.

I don't know if your brain was on vacation, but I'll spell it out. Guns are not the cause. They are the effect. Actually the American gun problems only spring up in times of strict rises in control. During the time of illegal land seizures by the government we had road gangs pop up, not because there where guns, but because they had no choice. During the war on drugs more gangs armed themselves and our gun violence rates spiked above the Prohibition era. Why? Because we forced a large grey market into the ultra competitive black market. Speaking of prohibition See War on drugs. You'll get the idea.

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So our regular gun violence follows a predictable pattern. Make a black market, gun violence goes up. As for the more unstable elements of society...well if your going to gun down a school full of children and kill yourself having a legal gun is not a big deal. And they are not hard to get despite what popular fiction might say.

Not so much defense as common sense. Its called a wheel principal. No matter how fast you are, even in mounted units, the further you are from the center of focus the slower you react. For example some of the outer planets move faster than earth, yet we have a shorter year because we have less space to travel. This is why infantry is so effective against mounted units. Despite their lack of mobility, as the center of focus they still have the practical advantage in reaction time and control the engagements.

Mobility in a phalanx is hard to increase. I would not say mobility won out in the over all war. Also attack a country just out of civil wars is very much like kicking a cripple. He may get a lucky shot in a beat you but by all rights you should win if you plan on keeping your self respect. You don't seem to get that wars have little to do with killing. Its more to do with cost. Romans wear cheaper armor. Greek armor is literally made out of the currency. Each Greek soldier represents a massive financial commitment, so if they die it hurts your coffers while quite literally handing your money over to the enemy. What more Greece is a terrible place to grow food.

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Raising the same number of troops is not the same as feeding, clothing, and housing them well. With those conditions better satisfied you have a better fighting man. The Romans geographical placement was well suited to providing them with these luxuries and that geographical placement (a large field of fertile land protected on all sides) is a large part of the secret to their success.

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The Greeks on the other hand have a terrible land with little space for growing food. Only between mountains could this be done. It was also true that during their civil strife much of this limited fertile land was razed already. It was not a case of superior fighting forces if you look at it from this perspective. Its actually a victory of a stable efficient Roman government that lacked the flawed and weak semi feudal Greek system of government that was littered with administrative weakness and internal strife. Real wars are not so cut and dry as a superior fighting force winning.

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To decide who is a better fighter entertainment is a better medium. Even before the Gladiators there was professional dueling in the classical world. The most famous example can be seen in the Aeronautica with the king who duels one man from each ship in a lethal boxing match. Why? Because before banks the main way one moved up the social ladder was buy defeating someone in war, or a duel and taking their stuff. You could make a lot of money very fast.

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However when Romans wanted to become great fighters and live in this sort of war economy they studied in Greece, not in Rome. It was generally acknowledged that Greek martial arts where better, and the iconic upward cut to pierce armored foes that many Roman fighters loved is Greek and best shows the influence. The original Greek sword for that is much more logical, a thin fencing weapon rather than a broad Gladius which one might not expect to encourage stabbing maneuvers.

Hardly super soldiers. When the anti nationalist hun farmers where sent out of Mongolia and made there way into Europe to make a farming community the Romans tried to seize their land. It didn't go well. Mind you these where not the Mongolian elites, these where the grunts so to speak. And since they had just lost against China I guess that puts Roman Legionaries at 3rd place tops. Rome was good for the area, but you have to remember, Europe was considered an intellectual back water until Portugal adopted Middle Eastern technology and philosophy schools in the late middle ages. This would lead to Europe's rise to glory. Europe's great success though was its willingness in the middle ages to adopt the culture of others and evolve. Europe's domestic work though was still small scale compared to the rest of the world though. Especially in military.

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You have to remember where Roman warfare originated. Its a rehash of the Greek warfare they adopted through various conflicts as well as trade. And where did the Greeks get it? Bye studying the strategies of north Africa. Phalanx warfare is a very ancient form of fighting that has sprung up in most major parts of the world at some time or another. However the reason it is so characteristically European is because they took so long to out grow it. Most of the world had moved on by this point to bigger and better things, to gun powder, to naval bombardments of the coast, to in china's case, Canon warfare like what you would expect in the black powder days of Europe. The reason everyone else had left this form of warfare behind is that it negates specialist combat. Personal skill usually does not count for much.

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When this is the reason under Napoleon needed large rapidly trained armies he reintroduced phalanx tactics even though the rest of Europe had moved on to the trench and pencil line strategies. It required him to train troops less so he could raise an army faster.

Oh God. This line. You sir, are a scholar and a gentlemen. Preach on.

A lot of people say Libertarians, or the government. I think its the Bar exam. Not that its bad, but that Lawyers take it. Just Lawyers.

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Wouldn't it be great if politicians had to take an 11th grade exam. I think alot of our problems would be solved. And we can have special cameo questions.

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Q:"Can rape get you pregnant?"

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A?:"Well according to doctors..." (<-even if he had been right he still would have lost equal points for generalization and lack of argumentative charity)

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Ok that was vindictive, but for real. I do think a political bar exam to make sure they where educated enough to take their positions would really help. At least then out politicians will know where babies come from, what socialism is, and that mac and cheese is not "Some black holiday food".

I'm glad to see people making allowances like you are. Anyways The Spartans and the other tribes in the area of Sicily worked to oppose the Athenian Empire but only domestically. With one exception they in the union with Sparta against the Delium League joined forces against every major non Greek invader in their history. So your half right about them not fighting as one unit until they where concord. But they would fight as 2 separate forces to oppose non natives.

Greeks and Romans had very similar combat strategy and where both heavy users of Phalanx warfare, which is a number intensive formation. Since neither had a great command of explosives or formation breaking barricades like the Mongolians (hence how they kicked so much Roman ass) and still used this primitive means of combat I would hand this off to the Greeks.

Yes, all America needs is ANOTHER preventable black market. I mean, the war on drugs was so effective. Prohibition was sweet. The War on crime in the 20s really calmed shit down. I think we are going to have to face the fact that cracking down on distribution in the regulated white market is not the answer. A lot of people bring up countries like Sweden or England who have strict gun control, but they also have great education, mental health options, and other social systems that make it so that there is always a better option then guns.

Your still giving him a pass on knowing this was coming before the first drop of water cause the first ripple. Also damning all to a struggle between salvation and damnation doesn't seem to support the concept of free will. So either he isn't all knowing, he can't give everyone a choice, or he is unwilling. There doesn't seem to be another option for an all knowing all powerful, pro freedom of action being. Oh right, also the bible makes a pension for slavery. Also not very pro choice.

They are...sort of. Its more about a dispute into if a certain profit was a profit and if a certain book belongs in the over all frame work...though so many of the early books where taken out it's hardly the same book anymore to begin with, the original had three gods. "God" wasn't even the top dog originally. Maybe he wen't Cratos on them or something Shrugs. Anyways, way off topic. Just call Muslims the OGs of Protestantism. They where doing it before it was cool.

He knew it was there. He made it. Humans evil at heart. He made that to. Satan is evil. 3 guesses on who made that thing. The point is if he is all knowing he saw this all coming and decided it was still an awesome idea. Why in the ever loving hell would you design something to fail and then punish it. Its like me breaking my kids leg, then punishing him if he doesn't snap back into shape even thought I know that is impossible.

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The fact is the only reason people give god a pass on this simple logic is because he is who he is. He can do it so it must be right. He has some kind of Vague plan. And yeah I read how the world is supposed to end. It's also comically vague and metaphoric. I just don't put a lot of stock in Christianity.

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As for reading that book, I literally had a whole class of it in Catholic private school. Honestly I have ditched a lot of the knowledge by now, but even in a saturated environment and with study it makes no sense. The only reason I remember Revelations was it was more interesting than a profits bones bringing people back to life. One arrow to kill a quarter of humanity? ^^ Thats going on the youtube montage. Mark of J eat your heart out.

The Kamasutra clearly illustrates a man with a strap on. Then again, that is a lot of girls.

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More on topic, I think it would be useful, but despite all the good stated by Peekaboo, the paladins do not really care about welfare. The care about offence and not being offended. This idea is to offensive so for whatever reason it must be wrong.

14 year old me had hair down to my back and a very feminine body despite being an athlete. I think I would have looked good in a dress...this is gay in the weirdest way. Homosexuality, hands down.

With the doubly screening layers of the State and the NGO watch dogs (You could say the parent, but if they are letting their child do pornography I wouldn't say they are too protective) I agree with the notion that the world would be safer for children with a strict and heavily regulated market as opposed to an unregulated black market. Lets face it, being anonymous on the web is just to easy. Between virtual machines, proxies, uber-proxies like Tor, and legal security software the tech savy pedos should not have a hard time staying out of jail. It would be best if they had to do there business where everyone could watch.

Saying a child cannot consent does not justify taking away any legal protection they could have. Its also important to note there is no real evidence on the mental effects of consensual sex across generations since any experiment or study would be both HIGHLY illegal and no reputable academics would touch it with a ten foot pole to save their reputations.

It has rules. They are set by the winner. The loser often loses sovereignty, how could they possibly legislate or prosecute anyone for war crime independently. Well there is the often ignored Geneva convention, and lets not even get into PMCs and how they treat war like a business.

Anyone can throw out any fancy theories they want. The fact is that in the politically stable democratic industrialized world almost unanimously success in employment, education, economic stability, health, and many more categories measured by the Few available Index run hand in hand with strong social programs. Sweeden, Holland, Germany, the list goes on and on. Unfortunately education and militarism seems to be inverse so military first world nations might want to hold off on the books until they get off war economies.

Silly really. It seems like many of the "mortal sins" are outdated biological imperatives. What kind of God makes a being natured then tells him to counter it for his own indulgence and amusement. At least the devil is keeping it real, saying what he means and doing it to. To bad O don't think every one who isn't the chosen is going to hell. If it is true then we have an all seeing, all knowing, all powerful god who had to screw up with a few billion humans to get what he wanted. He just seems to have the Zeus problem. "If he is all knowing how did Promithius steal fire?" "If god is all knowing, how did the serpent temp behind his back?"