Anyway, what the hell do you mean
If it is in italics then that means I didn't say it mate, it means I am quoting.
I think that you forgot the word, not.
I forgot nothing. You just don't understand how to read quotes.
Have you seen Army training?
Marine Corp holds the toughest physically demanding boot camp, that is not debatable.
Lance Corporal Jackson told me
Tertiary biased information.
Are you actually a Marine anyway?
Sorry mate I am a bit confused, did you end up turning your paragraph into statements which were betwixt me and LTyossarian?
That makes this whole situation extrememly confusing.
What is the time frame mate?
The slim xbox percentage is the one you have to use now for the failure rate. Always go by the newer as the older is the reason they made the newer.
55% Failure is only taken of those who reported either favorably or unfavorably. Hey I have a question for you: if you had an xbox and it crashed on you would you report it to Microsoft? Yes you probably would. If your xbox didn't crash would you report it to Microsoft? No you probably wouldn't.
Your statistic is flawed and invalid.
If you had read my earlier post, you would know that some women who work as translators, dog handlers, signallers, and many other trades, often work alongside infantry units, even elite ones such as paras or marines.
I read it originally only a few days ago, my debate turned from you over to Zombee and had completely forgotten your mention of this.
However as for linguists they are prized possessions. If they are working in the field they are doing so within an office.
signallers
I am not familiar with the Tech school of a signaler, or dog handler. My questions for you are of these average women who are holding jobs that have no need of a restriction based on sex: when you say they are working in the field do you mean they are doing the physical tasks of lets say a Marine? If a soldier is wounded and weighs 200 pounds is the female linguist already physically strong enough to carry the soldier to safety? Is this dog handler trained to give cover fire with an M-16 while lobbing grenades over 30 yards? Is that signaler ( as a requirement of their respected Tech school ) required to do the same physical activities as that Marine infantrymen was during his Tech school like say run a 6 minute mile?
Don't tell me about yourself, tell me about the average woman who takes up these jobs. Does BMT ( which has an easier workload to graduate ) make a woman who is anatomically not as physically strong as a man ( on an extreme average ) automatically able to carry out tasks that for the average woman are not actually physically possible?
My motion: a waiver for those specially qualified.
And as for the graduation standard, why are you asking me that?
I addressed that above.
I believe the standards should be the same, but did i make the rules?
There would be a much lower demographic of women in the military.
I think you will find, that whilst the fitness requirement for women is considerably lower, many women, myself included, would have passed even if we had been men.
What you are saying exactly is this : If I had been a man I would have still passed the physical exam.
What you are saying is incoherent, what you meant to say I hope was : I think you will find, that whilst the fitness requirement for women is considerably lower , many women ( including myself , could pass the physical requirement of a male soldier even though we are women.
In which case I have no dispute there.
There is a handful of females that can be a special operative, but that is a handful. My proposition is that the job of special ops and jobs of that caliber of physical activity are not listed as a choice for women as not the average woman is physically capable of being in Spec Ops. What I am saying is that a waiver should be administered if a female passes a male graduation standard for physical fitness.
It is fair and equal and would keep the drop out rating of women spec ops to an extreme low.
homophobe
Hating/Being scared of a person due to who they are as a person is not ok in any form, the one being persecuted cannot help who they are. If you were an African American and someone hated you because of that you think that both the persecutor and the one being persecuted are equally wrong?
Yes. Not gay as in i take 'it up the bum' gay but gay as in 'you're a fag', gay.
You didn't differentiate at all, and I feel that even if you had your statement would have been incoherent.
neither of them can help who they are.
You are an ignorant person.
They already have this same work load as an average infantry soldier, as well as say, being a translator.
Women already have the same workload as an average infantry soldier? Then why might I ask are their requirements to graduate lower than the requirements of men?
And what does being a translator have to do with anything?
I think you will find, that whilst the fitness requirement for women is considerably lower, many women, myself included, would have passed even if we had been men.
What in the hell are you talking about?
Even if you had been a man you would have passed?
I'm sorry but I don't understand where you are going with this.
but how many people would pass those courses if they do not have the hands on experience
Every person within the virtual medical field must still physically pass all tests required of their field of interest, as in an EMT would have to do all necessary physical tasks before being certified.
Why was this a dispute?
even if they are fairly rare.
Which is why I said offering the job to all female applicants would be ludicrous when a waiver can be released to any female who meets the necessary requirements of a combat specialized soldier. To hold a whole 8 weeks of training for only a slight minority ending up graduating would be a useless waste of government spending. Whilst the elite women can merely get a waiver which allows them to fall into rank next to any man.
hahaha is this an air force DEP talking shit?
No, I'm not.
Marines have the toughest graduation requirements son... so wake up.
I never said they didn't, though Navy Seals hold onto that title. For regular enlistment sure Marines do have the toughest BMT.
No it wouldn't the Marines are the best as far as being physical goes.
Humans differentiate from eachother. Though the different branches teach us that teamwork is essential, it does not change that one person is different from another. You say your average Marine can do 60 push ups a minute, I am sure we can both find people who can surpass that limit with ease.
As far as I'm concerned mate, we as members of the military are swearing to protect our country. Arguing over whose branch is better isn't worth it.
Every man that is in the military had to pass basic military training, and that in itself shows a mans worth.
That is an excellent and valid point.
What I was trying to convey is something such as a morbidly obese man might have a picture of when he was in the prime shape of his life, or possibly someone having a profile picture that isn't even them. That is what I meant by false representation, not when a person puts off a front that they are somebody whom they are not. Though the way I worded my statement made such a conclusion indefinitely logical =\
female bodybuilding has a healthy following
Did you mention this due to me mentioning it earlier?
These women are undoubtedly as strong, or stronger, than the average soldier.
That is a bold statement, one which you are obviously not giving the average combat specialized soldier very much credit.
Your average combat infantry Marine is trained to hold the physical capability of running a mile in a half within 9 minutes, and run a solid 40 minutes straight.
I feel that your average female body builder would have trouble accomplishing such a task.
There are many different physical requirements of an infantry trained soldier, ones that I feel a female would not have the capability of accomplishing. The extremely limited few who do hold those capabilities can get a waiver, however the majority of women joining the military should not get to apply for such a job. It should be a request that is judged on a physical capability basis.
It seems like most of the women interested in such roles would be fairly likely to be physically qualified for it.
If you look at the requirements upon graduating between a male and female recruit you ought to note a noticeable difference. They are not as physically qualified as a male is, regardless of equality: a female trainee upon graduating did not have to meet the same physical requirements as a male trainee.
The military is an amazing opportunity for men and women alike, however I adamantly feel that some jobs should be reserved for men, unless a woman falls into the category of an overly physically qualified female.
There is absolutely no sexism present within my argument, any that is perceivable was either a mistake on my part or was a comment which was inevitable.
No I am not in the Army, I am in the United States Air Force E-3 currently in the DEP.
The Marines have the toughest boot camp out of any of the other branches.
That doesn't make the Marines the best branch, not even the best at push ups.
The Marines are the strongest both mentally and physically.
That is a biased misconception. I could say the same for my branch or any other branch, and it would still hold the same level of credibility.
do you think kids under the age of 18 should do drugs
A more specific question would be much appreciated.
I will assume that you are asking about drugs such as Marijuana, X, Zanex, basic hallucinogens, stimulants, and depressants AKA drugs that get you high in some sense.
No kids under the age of 18 should not do drugs, it is bad for the developing mind. Once they are in their mid twenties I could care less, however before their mind has fully developed messing around with different drugs can be detrimental to one's development as well as being possibly fatal.
13 year old america female
In all honesty ( and I am being totally truthful ) most of the ideas discussed on this website are over your head. I would suggest sticking to debates where you can post something valid on, I would also suggest re-reading your posts as when you write as sloppy as you do people tend to decide you have no valid point to make.
This will be my last post on this subject, as we are off the debate topic.
Had the intention that was perceived by you was to promote creationism I would have most likely clicked "dispute" opposed to "support".
I meant that ignorance is bliss in the sense that those whom are consumed by the ideals of creationism find themselves ignorant of the livelihood of those around them who happen to not follow or denunciate their personal path. It is these people who violate the basic human rights of others whom find themselves in not only feeling a sense of accomplishment after a good picketing, but find that they themselves have done something for the betterment of mankind. Which is where I believe the phrase "ignorance is bliss" applies to such people.
