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Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Does this God affect my life in any noticeable way? Can I get anything from it by praying? Does it have any way of communicating with me?

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Words have value. They help us understand each other. By how you describe yourself, you don't have a religion. "God" is you word for the universe so by definition you are an Atheist who likes to play word games.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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If your God is just the universe and existence then you aren't describing a God. You are an Atheist. The universe will exist long past the death of the last human and it will be indifferent to our extinction.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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What do you believe then? Are you a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, or what? You came on this debate to dispute what I said about the old testament and gave me some bullshit about Jesus and kept restating that God is the ultimate reality. That's just making empty statements with no useful information.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Just because I hate someone, that doesn't mean that I think they should be killed. Your religion will die out naturally with every new scientific discovery and every new generation. Time and education is our greatest weapons against religion.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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So your God isn't really a God? It's just the universe? That means you are a deist. Then why are you referencing the Jesus character.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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What you call vision is better described as religious beer goggles. It helps you distort reality so you can play pretend. I would rather look at reality and except it for what it is.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Give me one verifiable thing that your God has done. Just one.

I don't care how many properties you tack on to it. I can call a coffee cup God and say that the fact that I can hold it proves God exists. Give me one verifiable thing that your God has done.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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1b still doesn't apply to me because I can't be at war with an imaginary thing. My problem is with the believers because the believers are real unlike their God. I'm definitely not afraid of your imaginary friend because imaginary things can't do anything. That's why we know that Gods are imaginary. They don't have any noticeable affect on our world. We can't see gravity or the wind but we can see the affect that they have on our world. If it has no affect on our world then it has no properties that can be examined. If it can't be examined it is safe to say it doesn't exist.

My beef is with you, not your imaginary friend. Just like how I would have a problem with a mental patient flinging shit at me because the aliens in his head told him to.

I wouldn't trust a devout believer around my child for the same reason why I wouldn't allow a mental patient around my child. Statistically you have a higher possibility of harming my child.

You freaks have been a detriment to human development all throughout history. Book burnings, witch burnings, the burning of scientists, the torture of children in the attempt to preserve the dogma for the next generation. I don't hate your God. I hate you with every fiber of my being. I don't care if you are a nice person in life because you are promoting something that is one of the most toxic thing in our society. You are keeping the candle burning for future generations of Hitlers, inquisitions, crusades, and genocides.

You are the devils we should fear. It wasn't the Atheists who molested me as a child. It was a Catholic. It wasn't the Atheists that drove my wife to jump off a bridge 7 years ago it was her Catholic family that molested and abused her and told her that she was dirty and ugly. It wasn't the Atheists who snuck into her hospital room in droves to tell her that she is going to hell because she tried to end her life. It was you freaks.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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What is your evidence then? If you are so sure there is a God then you must have something incredible to back your beliefs up.

I don't believe in the Christian God because it is a character from a fairytale. It would be like worshiping Donald Duck. The Bible was written by ignorant savages who thought bats were birds and whales were fish. They thought Pi was a round number. They thought the earth was flat and that sprinkling the blood from a bird on someone cured leprosy. They worshipped a God who's power could be bested by iron chariots.

How am I superstitious?

Superstitious: having or showing a belief in superstitions.

Superstition:

1.excessively credulous belief in and reverence for supernatural beings.

2. a widely held but unjustified belief in supernatural causation leading to certain consequences of an action or event, or a practice based on such a belief.

You call me uneducated and then use a basic word without understanding what it means.

"When you point the finger, you got three pointing back at you"

When you are trying to sound wise, it's best not to put your foot in your mouth.

You enjoy acting like a sycophant to a imaginary magic man.

Sycophant: a person who acts obsequiously toward someone important in order to gain advantage.

synonyms: yes-man, bootlicker, brown-noser, toady, lickspittle, flatterer, flunky, lackey, spaniel, doormat, stooge, cringer, suck, suck-up

You tell me that I need to be more humble and own up to your God but you don't even know what it means to have humility because you can't even adequately describe it.

What you are is a delusional sycophant with no dignity or shame who believes in magic.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Go blow your imaginary friend Jesus some more you delusional sycophant. You are too weak to except that there is no ultimate justice and no ultimate reward. Bad people do bad things and sometimes they get away with it. Stop being do childish that you think you need a magic baby blanket to put over your head to keep the monsters away.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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I call you replies word salad because they don't have any intellectual value. I'm not a Christian. I don't believe Jesus actually existed as described in the Bible because there is no evidence that he existed. But even if he did, he still wouldn't have any right to pass judgment on us.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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I don't have faith in anything. Not even in myself. I have evidence that allows me to make predictions based on probability.

I know that there is the possibility that I may be wrong about something but when I am not sure about something I don't instantly explain it away with magic like religious believers do.

Faith is what you use when you are either too lazy or too stupid to look for truth.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Oh I get it.

You can never understand God's truth because you aren't one with the faith. God will reveal himself to you if you honestly look for him with your heart.

You are just thinking with your limited human capacity but God's the all knowing absolute authority.

What you are describing is a perfect method for creating a delusion.

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So you have gone full blown retarded on us.

Does that mean since Trump paints whole rooms in his house gold and he ramped up drone strikes all around the world and dropped the mother of all bombs on the poorest part of the Middle East, does that mean that he wants to be the unholy spawn of Smoug and Sauron?

You are unbelievably stupid and an embarrassment to your species.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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What the fuck is wrong with you? It's shit like this that makes me embarrassed to know that you and I are of the same gene pool. You don't think. You just regurgitate word salad all over me.

This is why people shouldn't be religious. Your religion retards your brain.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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That is just a bunch of preachy bullshit. What was I supposed to learn from it?

Are you just a walking echo chamber vomiting religious garbage all day?

You don't belong on a debate website because you aren't bringing anything to the table.

You are just a free roaming cloud of stupidity.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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That is a pretty big statement to make. Do you have any evidence to back it up? If you say something is true but you don't have any verifiable evidence to substantiate your claim then you are just talking out of your ass.

How can I hate something I don't believe in? What you call God's word is just primitive savages speaking for their God. You are learning from people who knew less than you do. That is reverse education.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Your feelings don't matter to me. Truth does. I'm tired of hearing religious people act like their religion is more superior to any other. You are just children playing out fantasies in your head. God's are like Santa Claus for adults. Grow up and stop holding society back.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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I'm really getting tired of the cop out of saying the word "interpretation." All that means in religion is that there are parts you don't listen to in the Bible and some you do. If I were to say " if a man lieth with another man as he would lieth with a woman, they have both committed an abomination in the eyes of the lord, and the punishment is death" how would you wiggle out of thinking that that means capital punishment for being gay.

What if I said" Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." What kind of mental gymnastics are you going to do to say that this verse doesn't say that not only can you keep slaves but also you can beat them as harshly as you want as long as they don't die from it.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Your culture determines how you choose to interpret the religious text that you believe.

There are some Muslims that blow themselves up for their religion and others that say Islam is force for peace. Just like how there are Christians that devote themselves to charity and others are killing their children in Africa because they think their children are witch's.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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You are probably one of those " only read the good parts" Christians or Muslims. The old testament condones slavery, rape, murder, child abuse, genocide, child molestation, and racism. What is the punishment for unruly children? Death! What is the punishment for being gay? Death! What is the punishment for shaving your face? Death!

You can't use Jesus to disregard the old testament because he said that he came to fulfill the law, not to change it.

The Republicans have a deep connection with the worst our society has to offer like the KKK,Nazi's, and white nationalists of all types. People won't vote against there self interests to that extreme.

This is a stupid question. I particularly don't care for Oprah all that much. I would go as far as calling her a cunt, but Trump is one of the worst people in our society. It's like asking if a paper cut is worse than third degree burns on 90% of your body.

I would have to say no. I'm sitting safely in my house so I don't see what I have to be saved from.

Is an asteroid heading for me or something?

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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CNN, Business insider, CBS, and Time Magazine.

I have also talked to at least a dozen Walmart employees to better understand what is going on.

There are 63 Sam's club stores closing or have already closed. All their employees are laid off or getting laid off. They said that they are going to convert about ten of them into distribution centers but this has affected over 10,000 people. Walmart has a long history of fucking over its employees but this is crazy.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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The bonus is only a one time thing and the max is $1,000 dollars. You only get $1,000 dollars if you have been working for Walmart for 20+ years.

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Evolution is the back bone of modern biology. It is a verifiable fact that living organisms will change over time. With every generation new mutations add information to the genetic code. Studying evolution helps medical professionals predict how actions we take now will effect the biology of the general population. One of the things they are concerned about is that thanks to the advent of modern C section procedures women with narrow birth canals who wouldn't have been able to survive natural childbirth in the past will become more common. Eventually it will be rare for anyone to be able to have a natural birth.

What kind of drugs are you on man?!??!!

I've never owned or needed to own a gun. I'm not some reactionary pussy who thinks everyone is coming to murder me.

I live in Louisiana so climate change is going to become a real problem in the coming years with every year being the hottest on record and hurricanes becoming more frequent.

I have great respect for the advancements of modern medicine do to scientific method. I would prefer not to have small pox or polio.

They also close 60 Sam's club stores without telling their employees. People showed up to work only to be told that they don't have a job anymore. You apparently are a very gullible person. No wait, you're just another right wing sycophant who doesn't like to use your brain. Nuance is just too far out of the realm of what your brain can process.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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That's what you believe, not what Atheist believe.

The big bang theory only addresses the singularity because we don't have any method of examining what came before. You believe that a magical anthropomorphic immortal spoke the universe into being with an incantation spell.

We are held accountable to someone. It's called society. Societies punishment is called prison. Christianity say's that there isn't necessarily punishments you will have to face because your God's justice is directly contradicted by the idea that he is merciful. Mercy is the suspension of justice.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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The crusades occurred from 1095 to 1291. There forces were 15,000 strong but in 196 years of their holy war 1.7 million people died. It was also during the time of swords and Spears, not machine guns and missiles.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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The problem with that argument is that Christians all throughout history and all around the world have and do use violence to propagate their beliefs. The only reason why you don't see Christians in modern times and in developed nations commuting horrible acts of genocide is because they don't have as much power as they use to. The Christian time of genocide was called the crusades. The Buddhists did it in Japan and China and the Hindus have done it to Christians and Muslims all throughout history. The problem comes about when one religion gains total control over a country. That's why the founding Fathers gave us the first amendment.

I agree, but that is the goal of all religions. Name one religion that doesn't want everyone to believe their dogma. Whether it is through converting others or having kids and raising them to follow the religious dogma, the desired effect is the same.

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I'm a Left Wing Atheist and although I don't care for there views just like I don't care for the Christians holding up the "God hates Fags" signs, I wouldn't want to take away their right to hold those views. This is America and everyone has the right to believe what they want. The only time it becomes a problem is when they try to impose those views on others and take rights away from people they don't agree with. Your Rights stop as soon as they encroach on mine.

Your question is formed incorrectly. A religion is a faith based belief that some form of self continues to exist after you die. You can be apart of an Atheistic religion like some forms of Buddhism or Taoism.

I do think human cloning should be legal but I am a bit biased I guess.

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I don't get it. It just sounds like a bunch of contradictions. I guess I would have to read the book but if this is a direct quote then I would have to say he was just insane. Nazi's weren't socialists any more than North Korea is a Democratic republic.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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You are talking about polytheistic paganism like voodoo or tribal God. They are not historically respected because they don't have longstanding religious texts. That means they are passed down through word of mouth. Have you ever played a game of telephone? Try doing it over hundreds of generation's. They are just put under a blanket term of polytheists.

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It's impossible to be a Nazi and a Leftist. Nazi's are fascists which falls on the the extreme authoritarian right of the political spectrum. The extreme authoritarian Leftist are Communists. Calling a Leftist a Nazi is like saying that person is 100% white and 50% black. I've watched someone call another person a Nazi communist. That's like saying that person is 100% white and 100% black.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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That's funny coming from the biggest snowflake on this site.

Yes, and the old testament didn't exist when the Rig Veda was written. That is why Hinduism is the oldest religion still being practiced.

The Islamic religion started in the year 610 CE so it has existed for 1408 years.

The word "Atheist" was used by the Romans to describe Christians because to the Romans, they didn't have a God because they worshipped a dead guy.

Revelations doesn't give the date of fulfillment, doesn't mention the names of any countries outside of the middle east, and it doesn't mention any modern people. It's just a mash up of vague incoherent nonsense.

It's so vague that you could never tell when it was being fulfilled. That's why the Christians thought it was the end times in every century since the first century.

You are just apart of another generation of nut jobs that us normal people have to deal with.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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You have massive victim complex. Mao and Stalin formed a religion of the state. People of every religion have committed genocide against everyone else or each other at one time or another. You are taking something that has always been and called it a fulfilment of prophecy. That is the very opposite of a fulfilled prophecy. A prophecy is a very specific prediction that can only be fulfilled by that one event.

Is a prosecutor trying to make a one legal system where ever defendant goes to prison whether they are guilty or not?

To make a country work you need people from both sides of the political spectrum giving there perspective. Or countries problem is that both leading parties are right leaning. This has created an imbalance.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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Usually that only happens if the baby is past due, the mother can't pass the baby naturally, or she doesn't want to deal with the pain of giving birth. If they got that far then obviously they chose to keep it. Abortion is about the mothers choice of whether she wants to be pregnant or not. It's her body. If my wife chose to abort our baby, I would have no right to tell her she couldn't. It's not my body. My wife has extreme physical problems and they gave her an 85% chance of dying from the pregnancy. Her pelvis is more metal than bone and she broke two screws in her spine carrying our baby to term. She is the bravest woman I know, but I wouldn't have thought any less of her if she decided that she didn't want to go through with the pregnancy.

Wolfgang666(174) Clarified
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The quote you used was " you are just trying to minimize loss of life".

You cut out the context. The context was" if the mother died".

I said every fetus has the right to live. That means if the mother is dead then your only option is to save the baby. I said this because that is the only reason why you would cut a fetus out of a woman to save it.

You asked "Do you see a difference in terminating a pregnancy in order to destroy the fetus vs terminating a pregnancy in order to save the fetus?"

I couldn't conceive of any instance where you would have to terminate a pregnancy in order to save the fetus because by definition the womb is basically the healthiest place to keep a fetus that isn't ready to be born.

Your questions was idiotic.

I already said that every fetus has the right to live, but there is a second clause. It doesn't have the right to live at someone else's expense. If the mother is dead then saving the baby is the most logical option. There is no right that a dead person has that would justify letting someone else die.

As it pertains to abortion, the fetus doesn't have the right to use the woman's body against her will to stay alive. If it lives, good. If it dies then that just means that it was using that woman to stay alive, which it doesn't have the right to do if it is against her will.

You can twist what I said all you want. That just shows that you can't defeat my argument as it was stated.

The only reason why you would have to do that is if the woman is dead or the fetus is having health problems that needs to be treated right away. In that case you are just trying to minimize loss of life. I already said that every fetus has the right to life. It just doesn't have the right to live at someone else's expense. If it comes out and lives, good. Whether it lives or dies is irrelevant to the fact that a woman has the right to choose what goes on in her body.

Some of them might have but on the whole, no. The Bible is irrelevant. They saw people that were having a ruff go of things and they helped them out. You are arguing for correlation and not causation.


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