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Debate Score:70
Arguments:50
Total Votes:88
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Do some people deserve to get assaulted?

Do some people deserve to get assaulted? (e.g. slapped, punched or raped etc). 

Yes

Side Score: 30
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No.

Side Score: 40
2 points

It depends on your definition of assault. I would expand self-defense to include defending someone else, i.e. your friend, a guy in a wheel chair, or an old lady with asthma... etc.

Side: Yes
2 points

Can you stop a person who is in the midst of assaulting someone, from assaulting someone, without assaulting them? I mean you could negotiate them down, but you'd have to be O.J.'s lawyer good to do that.

The reason I picked this side is because even though talking can stop a person from assaulting someone, it's not the most efficient, and in more serious assault cases, the most efficient is the most safe for the initial victim.

Side: Yes

Agreed. If you see someone hitting someone else, you hit them and pulls them off. You stand up for the crippled guy in the wheelchair, with asthma. Or you turn that jerk into the police.

End of story.

Side: Yes
1 point

You sometimes meet people in life and think "fuck, that person deserves a good slap, punch or rape etc". This is further compounded when they tell you that it has actually happened to them more than once in their life. You kind of have to think - well if it occurred to other people, maybe they do deserve it.

Side: Yes

Of course some people do. Can anyone honestly say they wouldn't like to see someone like Jihadi John to get a good kicking?

Side: Yes
Paradox44(736) Disputed
1 point

Nobody is entitled to anything. Nobody deserves anything. I believe Jace has already stated this quite well on the other side of this debate.

Side: No.
1 point

Just saying that doesn't make it true. He hasn't even bothered to explain why.

People DO deserve things and that's the end of it. If you kill someone you deserve to be killed yourself and no amount of nihilistic bullshit that you or he spouts can change that.

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

This is precisely why the notion of "deserved" is so fallible. It allows for the conflation of emotional gratification with the idea that pursuing it is morally defensible. That someone wants to assault someone is not a legitimate basis to conclude that the person they assault "deserved" it.

Side: No.
1 point

What about self defense? I think people have the right to defend themselves.

Side: Yes
2 points

No one deserves anything, whether harmful or beneficial. The notion that we deserve anything in life is a fallacy of assumption.

Side: No.
2 points

Are you absolutely sure that there are not absolutes? ;)

Side: Yes
Jace(5222) Disputed
1 point

I was not discussing absolutes, so I have no idea what you are on about now.

I am also entirely disinterested in engaging with you any further at this point on account of your recent conduct. Anticipate no further reply from me to you on this thread or elsewhere in the near future.

Side: No.
ProLogos(2794) Disputed
2 points

That's untrue.

Because gravity exist, If you jump straight up, then you deserve to fall straight down.

Because stomachs can't hold an infinite quantity of food, If you eat too much then you deserve a tummy ache.

Because our bodies flow with blood, If you cut yourself, then you deserve to bleed.

Side: Yes
Paradox44(736) Disputed
4 points

These aren't things you deserve, these are things that just happen naturally. If you jump you don't deserve to fall down, you will fall down. If you eat to much then in most cases you will have a stomach ache. If you cut yourself then in most instances you will bleed. Replacing the word deserve and will will not help you in this debate.

Side: No.

No. Assault is only acceptable in self defense. Things like rape are never okay though.

Side: No.
ghostheadX(1105) Disputed
1 point

Even raping a rapist? You said so in your hypocrite debate. No one says that should be you though.

Side: Yes
1 point

I do not support the rape of anyone. I just think it is hypocritical for a rapist to whine about being raped. I never once supported rape, and I never will. Bear not false witness.

Side: No.
1 point

Assault is only acceptable in self defense

Would identify at least one cases where someone deserves to get assaulted, right? So why is this on the 'No' side when you yourself have made a statement to the opposite?

Side: Yes
Atrag(5666) Disputed
-1 points

So the two times you were raped you don't feel you deserved it just a tiny bit? I can certainly understand someone giving you a good hard slap when you start with your bullshit rude and irrelevant comments... Maybe raping you is a bit far but I can certainly sympathise with some kind of assault.

Side: Yes
1 point

I did not deserve to be raped. No one deserves to be raped. You are disgusting for saying that.

Side: No.