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Debate Score:37
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Total Votes:38
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US government shuts down for the first time in 17 years.

Well folks America is Shut Down, no pay for government workers, but real the fucked up thing is the ones behind this shutdown still get paid, all politicians, wow what a scam this country is, what a joke, the clowns running America still get paid but the workers and many other things get shut down.

How do you feel about this shut down, and will it effect you and your family?

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I am pissed at Obama not because the shutdown will affect my family, but because people say lawmakers don't lose their pay...while that is true, Obama Care is why the shutdown is happening, and it has the same issue. All lawmakers including numero uno the President himself are exempt from Obama Care. So The president doesn't have to move to the exchanges, get poor health care and pay penalties? WTF is that all about?

This is what I say...If Obama can't live with his own rules, then maybe he shouldn't be president!

http://www.ldjackson.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/obamacare-exemptions.png

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Cartman(18192) Clarified
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Has there ever been a bill before that was passed and the opposing party decided to shut down the government to block the bill that they weren't able to stop when it happened?

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Most of the US didn't like the idea. This a democracy, you can't just push your way or the highway because you like the idea. America didn't want this.

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My mother works for the state, I am not sure if this will effect her but I think it might, I remember back in when we had the last shut down, I remember her telling me she wasn't getting paid, and when they did pay her after the shutdown was over, they paid her back pay but here is the kicker, they taxed the shit out of her check so in the end she lost money.

I remember when this happen I was like 15-16 years old, as a matter of fact I think we got our cable and a few other things cut off because of this. I'll ask her tomorrow for more details, this sucks balls for people that are caught in the middle of this political war.

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That is what happens when you work for a gang of bandits. Congress is fighting over where to spend their loot that they stole.

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It didn't need to happen, Congress and the Presidency are just holding each other at fiscal gunpoint until one of them gives in. Why is it that the branches of the U.S government can't collaborate with each other like civilised people?

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The branches of the U.S. government would have to be made up of civilized people.

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I didnt even know you could do this, how ridiculous and childish.

Plus because of the republicans decision, many struggling people will be even worse off. Plus it has worldwide effects including making our stock market start lower. I'm getting real tired of your shit america.

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kmn1297(32) Disputed
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The Republicans actually came up with a budget. Blame congress for fighting it and Obama vetoing anything he doesn't agree on.

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Vaan(167) Disputed
2 points

A budget that excludes and antagonises the other party. I blame the tea party for being meddlesome. The president is allowed to veto its one of his powers.

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I'm just pissed that Congress still gets paid. If I were a congressman I'd want some extra paid time off too.

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Homeland Security happens to be the department with the least cuts. Tsk. NSA. Tsk.

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Im in the national guard so i thought i wouldnt get paid, but read up on it and says i do...so now i rescind my argument...no i dont care

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It is complete bullshit that these mobsters, cough, politicians get paid for screwing the American people. That makes them prostitutes.

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No because my family has no correlation between the government.

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I don't even live in America (and proud of it) .

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2 points

I share your sentiments. However, we must consider that if this American folly continues it will affect the economies of the rest of the world, considering the amount of banks, pension/insurance companies and private investors have bought U.S Treasury Bonds on the understanding that it is a "safe" investment. Hopefully after this the rest of us will learn not to be so foolish with our investment choices and leave America to wallow in it's own economic breakdown.

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Some government employees have to just work without pay.

Lulz since government is a monopoly on force. Talk about labor unions, amirite?

So anyway, I don't see this effecting me at all. I still can't smoke a joint in public and I still can't start a business without facing many fees and taxes.

This government shut down is just a temporary lack of spending of theoretical dollars. When it starts back up everything will still be going down hill.

Now a permanent shut down... that could actually fix things.

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Technically, it is only a partial shutdown, but partial shutdown is better than the perpetual looting.

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2 points

Well I have not heard about it so i guess it won't be effecting me.

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Finding out whether or not that im pissed is irrelevant. What is done is done.

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