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Winding a video back is Time Travel thanks for that Nom when are you getting your Nobel prize?

Nobody on this website was/is/has been stupid enough to pretend that reversing the evolution of a quantum particle back across four dimensional space-time is the same thing as rewinding a two dimensional image on a TV. Oh, my apologies. Nobody except you I mean. You're a ridiculously thick Irish cunt who LITERALLY doesn't know the difference between a computer programmer and a quantum physicist.

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We take Socialists seriously. That's why we reject their ideology.

But you lost the war, Bronto. The Russians captured your beloved Berlin in 1945. Nobody cares what you think anymore. They haven't cared for 75 years.

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Revelation describes Marxism and warns us about Marxism 1800 years before its invention.

Oh God just shut up Bronto you irritating Nazi lowlife.

German communists, socialists and trade unionists were among the earliest domestic opponents of Nazism[50] and they were also among the first to be sent to concentration camps. Adolf Hitler claimed that communism was a Jewish ideology which the Nazis termed "Judeo-Bolshevism". Fear of communist agitation was used to justify the Enabling Act of 1933, the law which gave Hitler plenary powers. Hermann Göring later testified at the Nuremberg Trials that the Nazis' willingness to repress German communists prompted President Paul von Hindenburg and the German elite to cooperate with the Nazis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist masskillings#Germany

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List of Nom dupe accounts

That's nice. Let's believe the pathological liar with over one hundred and fifty confirmed alt accounts who twenty minutes ago was literally quoting Hitler speeches.

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The obvious thing in your statement is you don't deny the claim.

The obvious thing in your reply is that you don't understand the meaning of words. Open Google and look up "fake news", then come back and tell us if "fake news" is real. If someone calls something "fake news" and you come back with, "you don't deny the claim", then you expose yourself categorically as an illiterate fucking imbecile.

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Your own link.

His own link entitled "democratic socialism"? That link? The link whose title makes absolutely clear that you are completely wrong? Is that the link you are talking about?

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Everything you say or do is immoral because you're a cancerous little Nazi whose own children hate him.

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With extremely dark, brown skin.

Everything you say, write or imply is a fucking lie.

“I’m Mexican!” a “bewildered” Godinez said he shouted while being attacked and called a “white supremacist.”

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/12/18/im-mexican-marines-bewildered-after-being-called-nazis-beat-up-by-alleged-antifa-mob/

Furthermore, there is no proof any of this mob had any connection to Antifa, so you are lying about that too. Basically, you're a fucking liar.

12 people with alleged ties to antifa

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/12/18/im-mexican-marines-bewildered-after-being-called-nazis-beat-up-by-alleged-antifa-mob/

The outcome of this trial has not even been decided. What a fucking joke your neo-Nazi propaganda is, Bronto.

You lying, cancerous little cockroach.

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Atheists do NOT believe in a deity, nor do they believe in Satan. If they were practicing Satanism then they by default would NOT be Atheists. It's seriously that easy.

Absolutely Mint. Bronto is in Nazi propaganda mode again.

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I'm pretty sure Nom condemns him.

He's a blathering, bigoted moron. I don't dislike him on a personal level, it's just that -- like many on this site -- he's thicker than toothpaste and has absolutely no idea about it.

Earlier MathFan attacked me on the basis of his own prediction that I don't like Tommy Robinson, therefore I must be a dick. And it really was a prediction, because he's never asked me about it.

MathFan clearly has not researched this guy enough to notice he is the ex head of the English Defence League, which is literally classified by the Metropolitan Police as a terrorist group. They are an obnoxious bunch of right wing yobs who used to go out in large, intimidating mobs and film themselves abusing Muslims. MathFan evidently has only seen the new, more polished version of Tommy Robinson since the twit got out of prison.

Oh, and if that weren't enough, he was also a member of the BNP, which is a literal fascist group.

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You should try arguing against my position rather than against your predetermination of my position.

Your "position" was a very purposeful deflection of the point. You tried to misrepresent a commonly accepted divide between right and left into something pertinent only to you personally, on account of the fact that I had used you as an example of this rule in action. As I explained the first time, by falsely claiming this divide does not apply to you personally, you do not counter the fact that the divide exists and proves that change is not value neutral.

Why are you responding exactly as I predicted you would respond? One would expect anybody with half an iota of intelligence to do the opposite.

Then again, that's not you, is it?

Well, you’ve accepted one part of my argument, good job.

That's the second time you have misrepresented the same quote by purposefully omitting the second half.

I want you to remember this conversation the next time you claim my assertions about your dishonesty are "baseless".

You are laughable, Amarel. So wrapped up in your own ego that it makes you vulnerable and weak.

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“Obviously change is value neutral“

Don't deliberately misrepresent my quotations, Amarel. What I said was:"Obviously change is value neutral -- if you automatically discount all forms of change which are not value neutral." Milk is also black. If you automatically discount all milk which is not black.

Ultimately, you must always resort back to misrepresentation because you are not intelligent enough to structure a credible argument. That is just the cold reality of the matter.

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I have direct contact to alien demigods

I want you to think really hard about whether this is actually true.

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The only other discoveries or inventions I have ever heard attributed to Muslims are the Astrolabe and Algebra.

Coffee, clocks, cameras, universities, planes, surgical tools, maps and musical notation.

Give these people the credit they deserve.

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You miss in just the right way to make me want to keep explaining simple shit.

No, that isn't true either. What is true is that your ego won't let you accept the fact that you have been proven wrong by me in public. Hence, you are going to continue to distort language and reason until the conversation becomes incomprehensible or you feel like you have won.

First, I’m not arguing for “no change”

Openness to change is a commonly accepted dividing factor between the left and the right, Amarel. The right are considered to be traditionalists and the left are considered to be innovators. Your faux denial that this dividing factor applies to you personally does not counter the point that it is still a common rule.

Second, you are arguing for the change of certain things

The change of certain things is still change, so I was clearly correct in my assertion that you would inevitably resort to struggling against semantics. Obviously change is value neutral -- if you automatically discount all forms of change which are not value neutral, as now appears to be your argument. If indeed one can even continue to call it an argument. At this point it is just narcissistic heel-dragging.

Admit I'm right. I dare you.

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I said temperature because it is value neutral, just like change.

If change were value neutral then I would not be on the left wing arguing for change and you would not be on the right wing arguing for no change. Obviously change is not value neutral.

The amusing thing is that I know you genuinely believe I am the one of us who is the idiot.

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I didn’t say climate, I said temperature.

I did not claim otherwise. I used climate as an example of why you are wrong to assert that temperature is value neutral. Temperature is not value neutral because some people prefer it when the weather is cold and some people prefer it when the weather is hot. Hence, temperature is not value neutral. Different temperatures are valued differently by different people.

You seem to perpetually be backtracking your way out of the stupid things you say, Amarel. Last stop is always semantics.

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Nom your whole schtick is accusing people of lying because what they say doesn’t match what you accuse them of thinking, feeling etc.

Translation: Nom pointed out I am a liar, therefore I am going to prove him correct and lie about who he accused of being a liar. He didn't accuse me, specifically me, of being a liar. Oh no no no. He accused people of being liars. Yes, that's it!! If I use the word "people" instead of "me", I can discredit him by pretending he is talking about EVERYONE. Let my evil games continue!!!

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Temperature is value neutral.

You are just absurd. Some people prefer hot climates. Other people prefer cold climates. Hence, temperature is not value neutral.

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When people loose context, they act irrationally.

It is "lose" context. And it becomes very easy to lose context when the other person arbitrarily changes it mid-argument. You introduced a reasonable concept of people who simply want change for change's sake, and then you swapped that context for a completely different one of everybody who is "anti-establishment" or "anti-Status quo". Hence, you were very overtly engaged in the classic "bait and switch" fallacy. Being anti-establishment is not the same thing as wanting change for the sake of change. You purposefully conflated those two ideas to better promote your silly right wing propaganda.

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Before ignoring this deceptive hypocrite, I will set things straight.

I wrote absolutely nothing which was deceptive. The fact of the matter is that you are a militant Christian idiot so your opinion is quite obviously not neutral on the matter of Christianity.

God says in the Christian New Testament that you will know a Christian by their love!

And in the old testament he orders his enemies and their children slain in the most horrible ways possible. The fact that you are deliberately omitting information which is part of your own belief system in order to defend that belief system proves that you are crazy.

You are very literally dangerously insane.

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If contemporary Christians were burning young girls at the stake

Not if. They are demonstrably still doing it.

Christian militias in Central African Republic 'burnt witches at stake', says UN report

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/centralafricanrepublic/12018588/Christian-militias-in-Central-African-Republic-burnt-witches-at-stake-says-UN- report.html

Even if they were not still doing it, 300 years is absolutely nothing. That's literally three, maybe four people ago. If you have good genes in your family and live to be one hundred then your grandfather might easily have been involved in burning young girls he thought were witches.

I'll be honest too. You are not doing a good job of convincing me you are that much different today than you were back then.

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I disagree. A thing that is value neutral may have a value neutral converse.

There is no such thing as value neutral. Value is relative to the observer. It is not something which exists objectively or independently.

The problem you have is that, while your language is complex, the actual ideas behind that language are not logically congruent or consistent with themselves. This makes it evident that you use language as a smokescreen to obfuscate the lack of merit in your ideas, whereas you should be using it to communicate your point as simply as possible.


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