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 Is creationism real science? (39)

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Is creationism real science?

The Bible’s account of beginnings cannot be tested in a laboratory, so secular scientists—and even some Christians—believe it is not science and must be classified as religion.

Secular scientists claim that their view of beginnings (evolution) can be tested in a laboratory, so their view is scientific. For instance, they point to mutated fruit flies or speciation observed in the field (such as new species of mosquitoes or fish).

But this is where many people are confused—what is meant by “science” or “scientific.”

It is helpful to distinguish between operational science and origin science, and compare how each one seeks to discover truth.

Before we get caught up in a debate about whether the Bible or evolution is scientific, we have learned to ask, “Could you please define what you mean by science?” The answer usually reveals where the real problem lies.

Defining Science

People are generally unaware that dictionaries give a root meaning, or etymology, of science similar to this one from Webster’s: “from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens ‘having knowledge,’ from present participle of scire ‘to know.’”

And most dictionaries give the following meaning of the word: “the state of knowing: knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding.”

To see this in full visit http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n3/science-or-the-bible

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Learn what "Science" is:

1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

3. any of the branches of natural or physical science.

4. systematized knowledge in general.

5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.

Now learn what "Belief" is:

1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.

2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.

3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.

4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.

This is a great website! I recomend you read it even if you are atheist. I agree with it, do you?

Nox0(1393) Disputed Banned
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answersingenesis is reliable as answersinharrypotter

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Wow that's a lot of atheists I swear you can't have civil conversation about religion anymore. But any way on to this science isn't always what you can test science is the pursuit of knowledge its the quest for answers just because we look for answers in a different place dose not make us wrong. Science Religion it's all the same when you get right down to it its all about answers.

Nox0(1393) Disputed Banned
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Both gives you answer...Science gives you data refined from observation and experimenting. Religion gives you bronze age mythology and magical rituals.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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And whose to say the so called myths aren't correct? There are things even science cannot prove or disprove.

Elvira(3446) Disputed
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That's philosophy.

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Of course it is not science. Also as you mentioned the biblical creation in the description, I'm assuming that is the creationism you are talking about?

If that is the case, it has already been refuted by science.

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lol.

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What's so funny?

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This website goes over nearly every creationist claim you can imagine, and specifically addresses many of the claims made by AnswersInGenesis.org

trumpet_guy(503) Clarified
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Nothing was really disputed. It just gave the naturalism worldview, which is what the original website stated. I understand where your coming from though.

And so...another frustrated virgin found its way to a debate forum

Lynaldea(1231) Disputed
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Are you another personality as some other users on this forum?

LOL

Centifolia(1319) Disputed
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Whatever that means

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Operation science: using observations made in the present to figure out what happened in the past

Origin science: using observations made in the past to figure out what happened in the past.

Christians use origin science Atheists use operation science where's your "logic" now atheists?

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Origin science is only as reliable as its origin. Since the origin of biblical creationism is a pieced-together book full of fictional stories like Noah's Ark, it's not exactly a reliable source of information.

Thank you warrior, you know for understanding what this accually is. I find it funny that more atheist visited this then creationists.

warrior(1854) Disputed
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Yeah that is kind of funny isn't it? Then again I tend to stay away from religion debates myself I know there will be atheists there. And arguing with atheists is worse than banging your head repeatedly against a wall at least with the latter the head ache ends when you decide and walls don't down vote all your arguments.

Nox0(1393) Disputed Banned
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Origin science? What is it? :D ...another try to cover up Bible BS ... creationism, ID ...know BS ...trying new term? "Origin Science" :D

warrior(1854) Disputed
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Origin science is archeology, anthropology and paleontology lookin to the past to find out about the past.

Nox0(1393) Banned
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Creationism - pure ignorance combined with zero understanding of any subject.

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Have you even read the creationist view? I read the atheist view and realized that all it is, is a way for people to think that God is not.

Sitara(11080) Clarified
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While I disagree with your view, I find it morally repugnant that you were banned. I try to only ban if people really cause trouble. :'(

Nox0(1393) Banned
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Creationism is useless bullshit made up by fucked retards. .