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Abortion

Okay here it is, the abortion debate.

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Hello abortion debate number 9374638382943739393...

I've said this all too many times; fetus is not conscious, no different to killing an ant, own personal choice, blah blah blah...

Read one of the other billion abortion debates for my opinion.

Side: For
2 points

This is actually only the 32nd debate on abortion.

That's right... only 32.

Side: For

I am for abortion but not if it is late-term, the things I feel that must be allowed is abortion after rape, abortion if the woman is not going to take care of her child, abortion if the woman's life is in danger, abortion if the baby is going to be disabled(if they wish) .

Side: For
1 point

A fetus is NOT a human, just a mass of tissue

Abortion is safer than childbirth

The number of abortions are relatively small

Nobody has the right to impose their morals on others

A woman should be able to control her own body

Abortion must be kept legal, especially for all the rape and incest pregnancies

If abortion is outlawed women will be forced to go to back-alley abortion clinics

Aborting an unwanted fetus reduces the number of abused children

Side: For
Apollo(1606) Disputed
4 points

A fetus is NOT a human, just a mass of tissue

By that definition, so you are you. So am I.

Abortion is safer than childbirth

HA! In the same way that murder is safer than living.

The number of abortions are relatively small

The number of murders are relatively small. Should we no legalize murder, rape, and theft?

Nobody has the right to impose their morals on others

Then why do we have laws against murder? child rape? torture? assault? grand larceny? etc.?

A woman should be able to control her own body

To say that a fetus is merely an extension of its parent needs some substantiation.

Abortion must be kept legal, especially for all the rape and incest pregnancies

Fair enough.

If abortion is outlawed women will be forced to go to back-alley abortion clinics

Should this have a bearing on its endorsement as legal by the state?

Aborting an unwanted fetus reduces the number of abused children

HA! In the same way that mass genocide prevents accidental deaths.

Side: Against
salmani(30) Disputed
3 points

your heart is a mass of tissue so why dont you suck that out and chuck it in the bin

Side: For
Trudistian(99) Disputed
1 point

A fetus is NOT a human, just a mass of tissue

No, we have a mind

Abortion is safer than childbirth

HA! In the same way that murder is safer than living.

No, it's less dangerous to abort than give birth, wth^^

The number of murders are relatively small. Should we no legalize murder, rape, and theft?

Fair enough

Then why do we have laws against murder? child rape? torture? assault? grand larceny? etc.?

Those are not morals, morals are more of opinions, these are really not opinions

To say that a fetus is merely an extension of its parent needs some substantiation.

A fetus is like a parasite, should a mother have no choice?

Should this have a bearing on its endorsement as legal by the state?

Yes, it could cause a lot of crime, which the state doesn't want, and it would be more dangerous

HA! In the same way that mass genocide prevents accidental deaths.

I suppose...

Side: For
1 point

That is a wonderful answer and I 100% agree. Even though they are not technically "alive" yet, so to say; it is still killing a baby. All those masses of babies killed is like premature genocide and should be illegal by mind, spirit and by law.

Side: Against
wolverinetre(238) Clarified
1 point

The number of abortions are relatively small

Sorry, I just wanted to clarify. (I'm very pro-choice).

You say this like it's a positive thing that the number of abortions had is relatively small. You said prior to that A fetus is NOT a human, just a mass of tissue

Why would you want less abortions if the doctor is simply aborting tissue?

Side: For
Trudistian(99) Clarified
1 point

This is just to state that if they're freaking out about millions of "babies" getting "killed", it's not true.

Side: For
1 point

Abortion is a way to prevent more poor families, suffering children, and used as back up when birth control fails.

I don't think anyone who used protection in sex should be saddled with a child. A child is a lot of work, and if you don't want the child then you both suffer for the next eighteen years.

Side: For
1 point

There is no such thing as safe sex, only safer sex ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Side: Against
Saurbaby(5579) Disputed
1 point

That is stupid... -__- We've made sex safe, you can be on the pill and using condoms and it's the safest sex ever. And if you're using both properly then you are having safe sex. So have as much as you want, in my opinion. lol

Side: For
1 point

A "thing" inside of a women stomach (cuz we all know that's where the come from) is not a true human being until it comes out into the world. Therefore science should have the ability to complete the task. There is no moral issue here. The problem I and most of you should have is the stupid teenagers who have sex think they have an easy way out. They should have to pay the consequences for their actions. I am still for abortion but there is one big problem I have with it.

Side: For

abortion should be a womans choice. once a certain time period has passed threw the pregnacny then it should not occur. but why bring a child into the world that someone does not want. just for it to be put in an adoption home to spend the rest of its life knowing that mommmy and daddy didnt want them. in my opinion its way better to prevent the suffering & over population.

Side: For

Thats if they even get adopted. Most kids put up for adoption end up shuffled around between various foster homes without ever getting adopted.

Side: For

For when it has no brainwaves, against once it's brain has developed and begun functioning. Choosing pure choice or pure life is asinine. This issue is not black and white.

Side: For
1 point

Family planning centers reduced 760K abortions in the year 2010, if anything the liberal agenda on the whole issue is more pro-life! What conservatives want to do is ban it all together and defund family planning centers so that women get back ally abortions where not only the baby dies but so does the woman.

Side: For
1 point

Damn, I clicked on here and saw Hades had written on it. Somewhat confused given he hasn't been on in nearly a year..!

Side: For

If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose.

If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.

Side: For
2 points

I've never met anyone who is PRO-abortion. No one is pro-abortion. Some people just respect others' right to have an abortion. I highly doubt that even those who get abortions actively promote them.

Side: Against
Saurbaby(5579) Clarified
1 point

One of my friends says she's pro-abortion, and I pretty much agree. I'm not for a choice, though I"m for that too, but I"m also for abortion in the way that it should be used more frequently.

Side: For
1 point

I'm confused. Why would you want it to occur more frequently?????? People don't really choose to abort a child, they resort to it.

Side: For
2 points

I am against abortion because it is practically kill the baby inside the womb. And that is a innocent child in the womb if you decide to abort the child you are basically committing murder and destroying a innocent life.

Side: Against
2 points

Abortion is wrong sure there are instances that people think that it is right but it never is you are taking a life away even if the baby is not alive yet you take away that oppertunity away if you say for instance get raped or the condom breaks give the baby up for adoption but still be apart of its life I have noticed that the people that say abortion is right are alive and their parents didnt go through an abortion

Side: Against
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

... ><

You realize you made the potential life argument, then without a period or comma in between, condoned the use of condoms.

Did it make you dizzy?

Side: For
1 point

Adoption is NOT a solution to unwanted babies. The majority of children put up for adoption do not end up adopted into a stable home, but rather get shuffled around various foster homes until they come of age.

This population is orders of magnitude more likely than baseline to end up career criminals.

Side: For
Saurbaby(5579) Clarified
0 points

First of all, do you know what a comma or period is? Because your whole argument is just one huge sentence... Break it up.

Abortion is wrong sure there are instances that people think that it is right but it never is

It's not right even if the mother will die during childbirth? Or if it is a fact that the child will be born with a disorder that will make it suffer all it's life and die in only about ten years after birth? It's still wrong then?

give the baby up for adoption but still be apart of its life

Some people are against adoption in the same way you are against abortion. They simply can't go through with it. And you can't always be apart of it's life once you put it up for adoption, nor do some people want to.

I have noticed that the people that say abortion is right are alive and their parents didnt go through an abortion

... This is the stupidest argument ever, if any parent did then it would irrelevant. And I have, on many occasions, which my mother had had another abortion when I was conceived. She suffered greatly by deciding to keep me and my twin brother, and I wish she had simply aborted us and lived a better life for herself.

Side: For
2 points

Abortion is NOT okay .

That's like me coming up to you and saying " Oh , there are too many people in the world . It's okay to kill you "

No . It's not okay .

Side: Against
Saurbaby(5579) Clarified
2 points

There ARE too many people in the world. So let's just terminate all the useless ones, there are a lot :)

Side: For
2 points

I believe that abortion cannot be justified because it is killing an innocent human being.

Every child is a precious and unique gift from God. We have no right to destroy this. Moreover, United Nations declaration says children have a right to protected before as well as after birth! And if it is not possible for your to have a baby, due to shortage of money or time... Nowadays many couples would adopt unwanted babies.

Side: Against
2 points

From the time of conception, a child is alive and to abort a child is killing the child. and if you are aborting because of medical reasons. you should let the child die naturally inside the mother. the dead child will then be absorbed by the mothers body.

Side: Against
1 point

Abortion is not advised as it dangers the new life of new humans living on Earth.

Side: Against
Trudistian(99) Disputed
1 point

There are already too many humans living on Earth. We don't need more.

Side: For
1 point

It's the girl's fault for not taking birth controls, having the guy use a condom, or using any other type of protection when having sex. I know that women have their own rights, but if they didn't use any kind of protection, and are underage, then it's their fault and responsibility.

I only agree to abortion if the women was raped and then became pregnant, other than that I am against it.

Side: Against
1 point

Abortion should be illegal by mind, spirit and law. First off, if you would want to KILL INNOCENT BABIES CREATED BY YOUR FOOLISHNESS, WHY ON EARTH DID YOU GET PREGNANT IN THE FIRST PLACE? You brought this baby into this world and it is simply stupid, illogical and mentally retarded of you to take him/her out.

Next, abortion is killing innocent babies. Think of all the great things that babies will achieve someday. Like Steve Jobs, etc. ABORTION = NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Against
1 point

How about no?

How about no way?

How about not a chance?

How about ABSOFRICKINLUTELY NOT!!

Side: Against