What is so hard to understand about women?

In my experience, most of the time they don't know what they want.

And when they do, they never get to the point and tell you what it is.

Men are guilty of that as well. But women even more so.

That's why they appear to be irrational.

I guess this is referring to my 2+2=5 statement... actually, that isn't used by guys... I just used that to make a 1984 reference.

It's not lack of education that makes one think that way, it's lack of the ability to separate emotion from logic. Women have a harder time from doing this than men do, a much harder time. This comes from the 50,000 more connections between the left and right hemispheres of the brain that exists in a female's brain.

Are women completely irrational? Of course not, that's impossible. But the ability to reason is much more difficult in a woman than in a man just because of the natural biological make up of the two separate sexes. Men think much more simply than women. They think linear and focus on what makes most sense. Women, on the other hand, focus on emotional aspect of situations, causing an non-mathematical response to a scenario, which men can not understand. Since the response is non-mathematical, it's impossible for men to determine how exactly that happened because the female response will just not make sense to them. You'd have to have psychological understanding of the female to not get brain hurts when trying to make sense of their actions. This is why I use the term 2+2=5, because that is exactly how a woman's thought pattern appeals to men.

I have found in personal relationships that it isn't that women are irrational. They are just so goddamn annoying because they can't just answer a simple question. The irrationality comes when they refuse to answer said question and the guy tries to do his best with the lack of her input and she becomes irrational because he didn't do it the way she wanted. For example. Guy asks a girl over to watch a movie. she comes and he asks what movie. she says you pick... I don't care. guy picks his favorite, "Good Luck Chuck" the girl sees it and says why'd you pick this movie. guy says he just picked one he liked. she gets pissed and says why didn't you put on something we both enjoy. Simplest answer. Guy has no idea what girl wants because she won't answer the first damn question.

I find that with guys, like myself, we are very open with how we feel toward people and we will tell people whether of not we enjoy doing something. Like this one time recently that this guy was taking too long in the dining hall, so the girl he was interested told me that was should just leave without him. That's when I replied "How would you feel if we just left you by yourself like that?" and stayed. lol. I don't mind if I hurt somebody's feelings. I'm very forward.

Women, on the other hand, say they don't mind doing something (like seeing a certain movie on a date) and then bitch about it to their friends! I've heard way too many stories about that. Guy asks which movie. She says she doesn't care. He picks. She secretly hates it, but never tells him. She bitches to her friends. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I become more annoyed and annoyed seeing men say women are so irrational as if we accept "2+2=5." That's not irrationality, that's lack of education, and it sure doesn't apply to the majority of women.

I think there's been a misconception... women aren't irrational, we're rather seen as "emotional." Emotional to the point of "don't fuck with me." Which I guess I can see how the emotions can lead to a sense of irrationality, but do you men also realize we're mainly only really emotional one awesome week a month? At least, that's how it applys to me. I don't become irrational through it, but I do become an emotional "fuck off."

Therefore, I do think this 'women are irrational' statement being made by men is ridiculous and sexist and flawed. Men are seriously just as irrational a species.

Otherwise, I'm interested in hearing what you men find so hard to understand about women. So, we, women, can sit here and bring you enlightenment and solve all your problems.

No, we're not that irrational. We do on occassion make decisions purely based on emotion, without any basis in reason, but this is rare, and arguably occurs just as often in men as in women.

Irrationality is defined as " not endowed with reason or understanding (2): lacking usual or normal mental clarity or coherence". Women are endowed with reason and certainly have mental clarity.

And we certainly don't have numerical values that continue infinitely without repetition. Therefore we are not irrational.

We're no more or less irrational than man are but in a different way. Men think we rule with our hearts and women think men rule with their mind only. Nothing wrong with that because we need that balance in order to have good relationships. Women can certainly think every bit on their feet as a man can but I think she'd prefer not do unless she must. Look at all the brouhaha Mrs. Sotomayor brought to bear when she made that "Latina Woman" remark. Yikes, I thought they'd roast her for it. But they understood what she meant, thank goodness.

As one of 7 girls studying engineering among 160 boys, I must say I'm not comfortable at all when people come with the simplistic view of the world that "women cannot think as logically as well as men can". Taking this is a "truth" about how the world really works, we are implying that a man who has a harder time thinking logically than a woman, and tends to be more guided by his emotions, is less of a man, and that this woman is less of a woman. This implies that men have a tendency to make bad artists and women tend to be bad scientists.

I know what experts say about the differences on the way the brain works, but for me, this just doesn't seem to be really explaining the world I see around me. However, it's possible that I don't fully understand what they actually mean... I'd be glad if anyone can make it clear to me if I'm saying something stupid...

It seems to me that this "irrationality" of women is more due to nurture than nature itself. Back in Brasil, my female and male friends equally share the engineering classrooms. Specially in the top universities, it's about 50/50%. (I didn't manage to find much online data on this, so you have to trust me on this one until I get some proof, if you want...) My point is: here in Japan, where women grow up being treated as inferior in logical thinking, they seem to take it as truth and restrain from pursuing paths such as engineering (only 4 of the 7 girls in my class are Japanese). Whereas in Brasil, where women grow up learning to be more independent and equal to men, they don't seem to be as "irrational" as some might expect.

No since when you don't understand something it won't make any sense. Generally when something doesn't make any sense or seems irrational your missing part of whats going on. Hence its not being irrational its just misunderstanding what the problem is. If you can find out what the missing piece of information is then it won't seem irrational. Oh and when men aren't understood we are generally referred to as being dumb or an idiot its not just one sided. Its just that we generally identify the same problem differently. Men being dumb and women being irrational. Although sometimes men are just dumb and women are just irrational and vise versa.

The American Psychological Association says no:

http://www.psychologymatters.org/nodifference.html