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Debate Score:13
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Is it morally ‘right’ to allow people to go abroad to pursue radical idealism?

For a research project about radicalization I came to the point where I would like to know, what others think about people who leave their country of origin to join a battle based on radical thoughts, therefore I would like you to answer the following question:

Is it morally ‘right’ to allow people to put themselves and/or others in harms way by allowing them to leave their country of origin and pursue their radical thoughts?




Thank you very much in advance for your response.

Yes

Side Score: 7
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No

Side Score: 6

I don't know which I'm going to side with until you answer this. Define radical?

Side: Yes
BlueEyed15(140) Clarified
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It probably means drastic, extreme, major, absolute, etc etc etc

Side: Yes
ghostheadX(1105) Clarified
1 point

I know "radical" implies revolutionary liberalism at a drastic extent. So what you said is only a piece of it. I was asking because I'm sure it can get more specific than that. What is "radical idealism?"

Side: Yes
1 point

If by pursue radical islam you mean to fight against then yes their intentions are good.

If you mean to join them then no, I believe they should be de-radicalised and then assisted to portray the fallacy within radical and extremist religious and militant beliefs

Side: Yes
1 point

Depends on the country since morality changes with the culture; so does what is considered radical.

Side: No
daver(1771) Clarified
1 point

Fundamental moral values like: don't steel, don't kill, don't screw your neighbors wife, are common across all cultures.

Side: Yes
flewk(1193) Disputed
1 point

1) Stealing doesn't even exist in some cultures since the concept of property is not universal.

2) Killing is also subjective. Capital punishment is definitely not universal.

3) Monogamy is also not universal.

Just because you believe your views are correct does not mean they are universal. Expand your perspective. Walk in someone else's shoes.

Side: Yes
1 point

Moving beyond the assumption of moral validity (a premise I disagree with), the notion that any agency has the moral authority to prevent someone from traveling freely absent any crime having been committed is tenuous at best. This is especially true where there is inadequate basis from which to conclude that their travels will necessarily culminate in the commission of any crime governable by domestic law for citizens and/or international law. Assumption of guilt before innocence is fundamentally antithetical to the moral legitimacy (ha) of the agency in question.

Side: No
1 point

Allowing people that are say for example EU/British/US citizens to go abroad and join the jihad is allowing them to take part in treason. It is also allowing them to join the greatest evil we have in the world, one that if defeated will allow much more peace and prosperity to ensue.

In the 20th century, we had the great communist experiment that failed and we also had European fascism. That fascism has been destroyed and now the world is much closer to peace than it was in 1900.

In this century fascism is on the march again, but not in Europe, the new face of oppressive fascism disguises itself as morally pure Islam. They have clear and unequivocal goals to curtail freedoms borne of the western enlightenment and enforce sharia law.

To oppose it is not to oppose religious expression but to oppose a cruel and unwavering form of political Islamic fascism.

Side: No

But no one can stop an adult from doing so. I am just scared what will happen to someone in a foreign country.

Side: No