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Yes we should No we should not
Debate Score:51
Arguments:42
Total Votes:63
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Should we give money to beggars?

In any large city people are concerned about beggars. They certainly look disadvantaged and on cold nights our hearts go out to anyone sleeping rough. But are they really so hard up? Are they playing on our sympathy? Does all the money we give them go on drugs? Should we be giving our change to beggars?

Yes we should

Side Score: 28
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No we should not

Side Score: 23
3 points

well it actually depends...you see in my country, almost half the beggars are well dressed..even better than we are, yet they beg for money which make them seem like hypocrites i mean..how can we know for sure that they are real beggars who need the money to survive...in that case keeping our money to ourselves is better. also on the other hand, some beggars are under the control of rich greedy people who torture them then send them on the street to collect money and they do not take any of it to themselves..instead they are forced to give it back..so it really depends on the beggar i mean he does not have to be so filthy with ripped cloth but by point is you need to be careful who you give ur money to!

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Humble(21) Disputed
1 point

So you mean we should give money to beggars then what about justice? Is it right when someone find money after a lot of efforts but others beg it. What does giving money mean? It means you want to help these beggars but don't you think that the money which you give make them lazy. You could help him or her in other ways too. For instance, you can find jobs for them that majority of beggars are jobless people.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
101kakashi(350) Disputed
1 point

its a nice idea you got there, but you see, if we give such opportunities to those who are beggars yet are capable of performing jobs, dont you think, that maybe they will not fulfill it perfectly? i mean, they are beggars because they think that begging gives you more money than jobs...no taxes no nothing, its all for yourself, besides, don't you think that maybe they tried to get jobs but do not have any qualifications? allot of beggars are ignorant, weak and ill. nowadays, in my country specially, most of those beggars belong to mafias, so if you want to give them a job, you will be partially responsible if they either mess it up or end up doing something unpredictable..so why should you take the risk of presenting a beggar to a job that might end up hitting you in the face? im not saying that all the beggars are bad or evil...but you also need to be careful while doing that. On the other hand, when you said "what about justice...efforts" i do not think that is injustice..you see, you are giving them money on your will..no one forced you to give them money..you can simply walk away...i dont think it is right to find jobs for them..what if they prefer begging over working? it is not your right to choose for them now is it? why would the money you give them make them lazy? they are begging arent they? they are walking all over the street arent they? maybe they cant do any job...maybe they cant perform normal tasks as normal people..maybe that is why they resorted to begging in the first place? you said that...the majority of beggars are jobless people..why do you think that? i agree some of them might be lazy...but what about the rest..maybe they tried to get a job but could not... you cant assume that they all are jobless because they want to be, or they are lazy, you should always think outside the box...expand your resources and think of all the options they have. not everyone wants to be a beggar...but that could be the only way they could survive.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should

yes, who knows what people have been through, sure some beggars use the money for drugs, but they need to eat too

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Isfandak(10) Disputed
1 point

Yeah you are right. They need to eat too, but as you said most of them use this money for alcohol or any other drinks. Mosy of them do not spend this amount of money to eat something and not to be hungary but instead they use it in such bad things.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
Facadeon(509) Disputed
2 points

That is a bad generalization.

Oh, some of them drink alcohol- now let's let them all starve!

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Humble(21) Disputed
1 point

You are right my friend, but in order to find money to eat something you should not beg if you are not healthy or have some physical problems then it is OK.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
2 points

im sorry what

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
2 points

Im voting on the yes side, although I dont usually give money itself, I offer to buy them food. If they truly are hungry they will accept. And Im not talking about a fast food meal, because its possible someone else may have already bought them a meal and they arent hungry again, yet. I buy them things from the store that can be used later. I have done this a few times. It will last longer. I could never turn my back on someone in need just because they "might" not be for real. I have been hungry before, I know the feeling, I cannot and will not take the chance of letting a person go hungry if I can possibly do something about it.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
2 points

Everyone have their own way to support themselves. We need a balance in current society. So I think we just pay for the valuable dignity that the beggar lost.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Humble(21) Disputed
1 point

You know nobody wants to see people torturing from hunger but its their own fault. If you thought majority of beggars are homeless people.They did something wrong and they are suffering now. Moreover they don't think to find ways how to become a normal people. Inversely, they think how to forget this moments of suffer and the begged moneys which they collect spend on abusive drugs.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not

Not all who receive misfortune receive it because they are terrible people. In fact, most in this country do not receive it because they are terrible people... but I won't go on a tangent where I dispute all of eudaimonism.

In conclusion, yes, beggars should be given money for their suffering.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Humble(21) Disputed
1 point

We did not say that beggars are terrible people. We are saying that beggars are emotionally depressed and we should find the ways how to avoid from this problem and how can we do this by establishing special policy that can help this beggars get rid of trouble.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
1 point

Not all of you gave such an impression of what you believed, but some of you did, as well as yourself to an interpretive extent.

And there is a way to prevent poverty, but it would require limiting wealth, which is something generally your side of the argument would not believe in attempting (though I will not presume that you yourself are against such an idea).

Which inevitably means, not giving them anything and not using an obvious preventive method causes you to limit your generosity towards these people significantly. What solution is there then, to assist them, if you do not in believe that they deserve their torment?

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
VENUSJUDGE66(65) Disputed
-2 points
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
3 points

You, whomever you are, are a terrible person. Or a troll. Though, trolls aren't much better then the kind of person you may be emulating.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
1 point

Yes, we should. Although it is not our responsibilities, we should still be thankful because they are asking things nicely from us. Begging is a lot better than robbing someone, isn't it? At least, somehow, it is still honorable and understandable.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
1 point

IMO we should. Yeah i agree that they must try thier hands in some hardworking work but that's almost equal to impossible today. Keeping this point in mind with some sense of humanity, i would definitely go with this motion.

346 days ago | Side: Yes we should
1 point

It is obvious that most of beggars are lazy people who does not want to work and I think we should not give them money because as you give someone or a beggar money he/she will be lazy in place of giving money to them we should provide them by job.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
1 point

I agree with you HUMBLE... And I want to add that instead of these beggar we should help the families which have some economic financial problems and cannot supply themselves. I think to do this way is better than giving money to beggars....

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
Cambriel(709) Disputed
1 point

Excuse me, you said that most beggars are lazy people.. but actually, in my country, people are starving and no matter how hard they work, the payment that is given to them is still not enough to support their families. Beggars, not only beg, they try to work too, even if it is only small time jobs. Not all countries have the same countries as yours wherein you have a lot of jobs to provide for these people. Some people here are also uneducated because they don't even have enough money to buy their own food for one day. People here in my country, want to work, so they could eat, but unfortunately, not enough jobs are offered because we are not as rich as the country you have.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
Jawkins20(132) Disputed
1 point

It's weird your screen name is Humble yet you disagree with helping out those that humble themselves and ask for money. I have never observed it to be obvious that most beggars are lazy, I have experience quite the opposite that they are in a tight spot and are truly grateful for the help. Plenty of them actually will work for food, or money so please don't throw out a statement like that, when you can't possibly know all the beggars in the world. If you don't want to give to the needy that's your choice, but don't give others a bad taste in their mouth about the homeless.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should

There is every reason to believe that a majority of panhandlers are lazy and only looking for a handout.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
1 point

Only if you want to give money to beggars. Not all homeless people are lazy drug addicts. Some may not intend on being homeless very long either. I've always thought it is better to give them food than money though.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
1 point

I agree with you that we should give the beggars in place of money something which they cannot sell because as we know mos of them are homeless and addicted. If we give money to that beggars they will not use it for his or her benefit they will use it in vice versa in bad things like drinking or abusive drugs.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not

This was a tough decision for me.

My main reasoning for the choice is that the need to keep beggars from spending their money on things such as drugs or other harmful substances. By giving beggars money, you are giving them a resource for anything, and will not necessarily help them. Although trust is important, many people are beggars because they have hurt themselves already, any money may add salt to the wounds.

All in all, while money should no be given to beggars, it is alright to give them products such as food, blankets, or clothing.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
1 point

I absolutely agree with you it will be bad for beggars cause it not only influences psychologically but also physically as you mentioned money is a resource of anything. Drinking is a physical example of most beggars which i have seen and caused even their death.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
1 point

I am saying NO because first we have to understand who really are the people who beg.

First we have to complete our knowledge about 'Poverty' and 'Beggars'

As you mentioned most of those peoples are 'Alcoholics' OR 'Drug Addicts'. But these two are not the only reasons for 'Begging'

We cannot see a person lying helpless on the streets. We want to help them. But still we cannot. And even when we do, we feel guilty for ourselves when we find that our trust was broken.

So I think, we should give them money, only after 'knowing completely about them.'

And more, the question is not limited to only money. As I said above there can be various reasons why people fall down to the extent of begging.

Educated people don['t beg. They ask for help sometimes, but not everytime.

So I think we should be more 'serious' about the issue of 'poverty' itself, then just giving money to the beggars.

We should know the situations of poor class of the society in our countries.

What benefits are they getting by our Government.

We should ask ourselves that are only Rich people allowed to enjoy everything in every country?

And we should also ask ourselves that is being Poor a terrible crime?

1 year ago | Side: No we should not

Depends. well some of them are tricksters

1 year ago | Side: No we should not

I WOULD SENTENCE THEM TO HARD WORK SORTING TRASH IN A LAND FILL AND THEY CAN FIND SOMETHING TO EAT THEN , WORK AND BEAT THEM TILL THEY CAN'T WORK ANY MORE AND DOZE THEM INTO THE LANDFILL , HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
Revolt(200) Disputed
1 point

THEY SEE ME TROLLIN

THEY HATIN

PATROLLIN THEM THINGS IM TYPIN ON MY QWERTY

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
1 point

As others me too support the view that we should not give beggars money . Rather than that we can provide sort of things to them like food , clothes , etc. If he really is a needy person / beggar , he'll accept it . If you really wanna help'em it's not required that you've got a single option of offering them money . He can use money to buy alcohol , drugs but he can't use food , clothes etc. to buy such illegal things . So i will go for not offering them money .

346 days ago | Side: No we should not
0 points

As I know most of beggars are addicted and majority of them are homeless who sold all the possession such as home, car, furniture etc.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not
Cambriel(709) Disputed
1 point

If you give them money, of course they would still buy their food for the money that you gave. At one point, they will get hungry, and then do you really think that drugs could sustain this hunger?

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
-2 points
-2 points
2 points

I gave this a down vote and a counter argument even though I am on the other side of the argument. This does not contribute to the conversation, nor has any logic behind it.

1 year ago | Side: Yes we should
1 point

I support you, but you cannot achieve your goal in a strict way. We should make a clear decision of how to avoid these problems facing in our cities. How can we do this? By explaining clearly in a way that we also want to help them. Our purpose is not to let them go and do just dirty job as you mentioned but ,in fact, to become a normal class of our society.

1 year ago | Side: No we should not


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