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Muslim Bakeries Refuse Gays
You've probably heard how the left, the MSM and gays were apoplectic over a Christian Bakery refusing to get involved in a gay event, but you probably didn't hear about numerous Muslim bakeries refusing service for a gay function. Speaking of bias in the MSM and the left, get a load of this:
The word "Islam" means "submission." As in submitting to God's will.
The word Muslim means "one who has submitted to Allah's will."
It is only a small percentage of Muslims who are hateful and intolerant.
Just like us Christians. Most of us are tolerant and accepting. A few of us are bigoted and hateful and intolerant.
And just like the Koran, a person can find many "passages of hate and evil" in the Bible. But overall it is a Holy Book.
And I don't think it would be too difficult to find some links showing examples of Christians refusing service to Gays. In fact it should be a very easy task. Shall I do it for you? Give you some links? Or are you smart enough to realize the truth in what I said?
Islam bans every form of sexual relations but the one between a husband and a wife and not including "buggery" or anal intercourse.. but in the meantime Islam allows commercial dealing even with infidels and allows no one but authorities to inflict penalties on sinners or those who commit crimes
It makes no sense to speak on tolerance in a singular manner. You are asked as a citizen of the USA to accept what the government says. This is not tolerance. Tolerance requires an understanding of another life and to be compassionate towards there perspective.
The example in the video is nonsense. In Islam you are allowed to practice whatever you wish so long it is with discretion within your own home. It is forbidden in jurisdiction, i.e the governing body. (if Islamic at the time)The Governing body would acknowledge the individuals needs, but will not allow it as a law i.e Gay marriage would not be allowed.
The topics you are all talking about requires reading.
Quasi knowledge of a religion that 2. odd billion follow, is unacceptable. Ignorance is what most who argue on this topic are showing. There are branches of Islam such as economics, law amongst others that are not available to my memory at the moment.
"Religion of tolerance". That is a statement I haven't seen often, and one that, I believe, most Americans would not accept, and won't until the religion moves out of the dark ages.
That said, this is an obvious attempt to further spread religious hatred in America. Someone said: "Religion causes us to hate others that we wouldn't normally hate." This is America, and it's no more legal for a Muslim Bakery to do that than any other.
Blaise Pascal, a French physicist and Catholic Philosopher described what you are doing here: "Men will never commit evil so fully and joyfully as they when they do it for religious convictions." Helping to turn millions against millions is what many religions have done for centuries, and, here we are. Millions against millions! (As you "joyfully" join the party.)
I forget from the hypocrites on the Left, are you talking about the MILLONS of babies you support butchering for any reason up to birth when you elect democrats?
Oh, I get it now, it is worse for a Christian family to follow their faith and not cater an event that goes against their faith..... worse than supporting the killing unborn viable babies.
So you are also ok with forcing an African American owned family to cater a KKK convention?
As always, you are a waste of time to debate. Total bigoted hypocrite.
1) banning abortion would result in more abortions. I don't know how many times I'm going to explain this to you. When you vote for pro life republicans you're voting for more abortions and more dangerous abortions and more deaths from abortions. That's a fact. All of the data we have indicates that when you make abortion illegal the rate of abortion rises. In order to keep those numbers low you should have safe, easily accessible abortion and family planning funding. The best thing you can do is to have we'll funded planned parenthood clinics and sex education. The places that have these things have some of the lowest rates of unwanted pregnancy and abortion.
I would be ok with making an African American family to cater a KKK event if that family agreed to cater it and began a transaction with the KKK. If you enter into a business contract then decide to pull out then it's reasonable for the other party in that contract to have you hold up your end of the contract. But that family can absolutely refuse service initially before entering into a contract. Just like Christians can refuse service to gays. Why don't you actually read up on law, contracts, and the legal basis for the court cases you're going to talk about before making a stupid point?
People say the same things about guns. I don't think either argument is valid because neither is backed up by facts. If you could provide facts, I would change my mind.
Do you thinking spewing lies will change someone's mind?
Back before Roe, there were FAR FEWER abortions per year so the pro life laws WORKED!
THAT IS FACT!
Now do what pro choice people always do and tell us how it was not safe for the killers to go down back alleys to kill their victims. We had to make it safer for the killer, and spit on the right of life for the innocent babies being slaughtered.
Now ignore the facts as always and show everyone why you are on my auto ban list.
You just spewed another lie! The Left is doing all in it's power to force Christians to cater events they do not want to cater!
So far the courts have told the Left to shove it but now Hillary will be appointing yet one more activist justice to add to Obama's two activist justices, and soon our freedoms will be no more. All because of idiots who vote for these extremist control fanatics.
There were fewer abortions on record because it was a lot harder to get a legal abortion by a doctor. However the rate of self-induced abortions, botched abortions, undergound abortions, abortions abroad, and injuries/deaths from those abortions was FAR higher. There were just as many abortions happening as there are today but they were not done by licensed professionals and they were far more dangerous. The pro-life laws succeeded in doing nothing but make abortions more dangerous. Abortion doesn't go away when you ban it. Nothing goes away when you ban it it just becomes more dangerous. Hence why weed is prevalent everywhere despite being a schedule 1 drug.
I have no idea what point you're trying to make with the killer tangent. How did we make it safe for killers? Are you talking about abortion doctors or underground abortions? Can you please just use clear terms so I know what you're talking about instead of using dramatic fear rhetoric?
How is the left forcing Christians to cater events? All I know of is that one court case about the gay wedding cake. I have yet to hear of any others. A Christian business can refuse service. They have that right. However a Christian business cannot AGREE to service then back out at the last second because of discriminatory reasons. The court simply ordered the bakery to fullfill it's end of a contract it previously agreed to. It did not force them to enter into a contract against their will which is illegal.
Wait so we want people to have the freedom to get gay married and have abortions...but we're the control freaks? Not you guys who want to prevent people from getting gay married and have abortions...that makes perfect sense. Also it's interesting to note how you've concluded Hillary will beat trump. I'm not implying anything it's just interesting
How 'bout we make a deal. We either ban abortions and ban guns or we keep abortions and keep our guns, what do you say? In the hypothetical situation were you had to make that choice.
If I ever had to make such a ludicrous decision, I would of course choose making our laws protect ALL INNOCENT LIVES, not just your's and mind.
You see, the vast vast majority of people who lack the love and wisdom of God, are capable of all kinds of inhumanity. They hate any consequences to their self love promiscuous lifestyles, so they made it legal to kill Babies.
The fact of the matter is if you had to make the decision of keeping abortion, or keepng guns, you would choose keeping abortion.
Uh, if you couldn't tell that was a joke. But I was also curious to see which one you would chose if you had to make the choice. By the way, what do you think we should do about climate change?
Until the entire world gets on board with the high cost of implementing laws against carbon emissions, America's actions would DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop climate change even if it were proven that the increased greenhouse gasses were man made and not naturally occuring. Scientists do not all agree on the point of being mainly caused by man.
Scientists also say that these climate change laws would not reverse the green house gases aready up there.
America would be at a huge disadvantage and could not compete with the world market if only our companies were forced to create their products at much higher energy costs.
But of course the extremists in the Democrat party tied to their big money environmental lobbyists do not care about the harm to our economy or jobs.
So Progressive if you will please show us all a list of Muslim bakers that have been sued for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding ! I do await your list !
I just told you I don't have one. But what's your point? That because private individuals haven't sued Muslims that it's somehow progressives protecting their right to discriminate? That's just absurd. If people don't sue then they don't sue. That has nothing to do with what the progressive movement stands for
We need to be consistent and fair. If a Christian cannot refuse to provide a service to a homosexual simply because they object to them being homosexual then a Muslim cannot refuse to, either.
Nobody is saying it's okay when Muslims discriminate but not okay when Christians do it. Not okay no matter who is doing it. I agree Islam is shit. Christianity is shit too. Fuck both religions and fuck anyone who refuses service for peoples sexual orientation.
I fucking hate Islam. So stop comparing me to all progressives. And you don't have to like Islam to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorists and in fact the vast majority are not. You also don't have to like Islam to be against profiling muslims. You also don't have to like Islam to recognize that Muslims are really unfairly treated in america and a lot of the prejudice toward them is misguided.
Ok well thats because they're not progressives. They're just democrats. Also Obama isn't out king. I don't even like him that much he's way too right wing and corporatist for my liking but he's done some good stuff.
Obama is not a Progressive ? Oh Okay he is a Communist but anyway he supports Muslims and you still have NOT produced the list of Muslim Bakers that have been sued by the LGBT !
No Obama is not a progressive. And he's not a fucking communist either. Are you kidding? Name ONE communist policy he's advocated. Just one. Cite one quote where he says "the state should take over ALL means of production". Because that's what communism means. He has never said anything even remotely communist. He also voted for the bailout of wall street which is the biggest aid to the private CAPITALIST sector in US history. That is the exact opposite of what a communist would do.
And for the 3rd time there is no list of Muslim bakeries. That doesn't mean that it's never happened. Also once again, that being said what is your point?
