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 Socialist Paradise:British National Health Service Cancels 50,000 Surgeries (80)

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Socialist Paradise:British National Health Service Cancels 50,000 Surgeries

In a stunning move the British National Health Service which operates the government-run medical system ordered the cancellation of over 50,000 “non-urgent” surgeries in every hospital across England leaving sick patients in limbo as they wait for procedures. The order came on Tuesday, as hospitals dealt with large crowds stemming from a winter outbreak of the flu. Some patients were forced to wait 12 hours standing in the corridors as seating areas became overwhelmed. British Prime Minister Theresa May offered an apology on Thursday during an interview with Sky News. "I know it's difficult, I know it's frustrating, I know it's disappointing for people and I apologize," she said as she visited patients at a London hospital. The NHS offers "Free Government-Run Health Care" to British citizens making up about a third of England’s budget. Unfortunately, this move has caused the health care quality to drop in recent years.

One doctor described treating patients with "battlefield medicine," while others have said that the hospitals face "third world conditions” as the medical staff became overwhelmed with patients coming in with flu-type symptoms.

Since Britain initiated a government-run health care system the overall quality has steadily dropped even as leftist politicians propose similar systems for the United States.

As sick patients wait for a diagnosis from their physician, they may find themselves on the receiving end of a cancellation instead of a treatment to cure their ailments.

"British Single Payer" system is not quite the Socialist Paradise as the Leftist dream it should be ! 

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Socialist Paradise:British National Health Service Cancels 50,000 Surgeries

Britain is socialist? That's news to us. Britain is currently being governed by hard right wing Conservative capitalists, so how do you figure socialism is responsible for the lack of funding they are giving the NHS?

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Lack of funding ? Wait a minute here so free government-run health is not free it has to be funded ? Really now !

The NHS offers free government-run health care to British citizens making up about a third of England’s budget.

That funding must not be enough for free health care ! ROTFFLMMFAO !

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Lack of funding ?

Yes, lack of funding.

The NHS is about to ration its services due to lack of funding

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-england-rationing-services-cuts-hammond-didnt-go-far-enough-a8082156.html

NHS faces 'mission impossible' with lack of funding

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-03-19/nhs-faces-mission-impossible-with-lack-of-funding/

Wait a minute here so free government-run health is not free

Free means that the customer does not pay. Are there any other words you don't understand the meaning of other than immigrants, socialism, NHS and free? I would like to know in advance of any further conversation.

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The main reason for this shocking situation is that the U.K., has been swamped with 10s of millions of foreign nationals who avail themselves to the nation's free national health service, otherwise known as HEALTH TOURISM.

These health tourists come from African states such as Nigeria but mainly from the E.U., member states of Eastern Europe.

God help the politician or media publication which is foolish enough to highlight the impossibility of treating the ever increasing numbers of parasites choking Britain's health service which was once the envy of the world.

Theresa May's conservative government simply won't throw £billions into the bottomless pit of the National Health Service as they liken such a measure to throwing raisins to an elephant.

A blind man on a galloping horse could have seen this coming from a mile off but the prevailing P.C. brigade and E.U., liberals in Brussels make the publishing of the true cost to the nation impossible.

If and when a true left wing government is elected in Britain we'll see the National Health Service improving through unaffordable irresponsible borrowing and a reduction in the nations self defense budget.

The last time a 'SPEND SPEND SPEND-BORROW BORROW BORROW' left wing Labour government was in power the country couldn't afford to pay the interest on the eye-wateringly enormous loans never mind pay back the principal sum'

When the conservative government was returned to power they introduced so called austerity ( or in other words- living within one's means) and were immediately accused of cold blooded heartlessness by the very left wingers who had brought Britain to it's knees in the first place.

NicolasCage(505) Disputed
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The main reason for this shocking situation is that the U.K., has been swamped with 10s of millions of foreign nationals who avail themselves to the nation's free national health service, otherwise known as HEALTH TOURISM.

Incorrect. "Health tourism" makes up 0.3% of NHS spending.

Theresa May's conservative government simply won't throw £billions into the bottomless pit of the National Health Service as they liken such a measure to throwing raisins to an elephant.

They won't increase spending because they want the NHS to collapse. It's more profitable for them that way.

If and when a true left wing government is elected in Britain we'll see the National Health Service improving through unaffordable irresponsible borrowing and a reduction in the nations self defense budget.

Why do we need to spend £45.4 billion on something which doesn't affect the lives of the average Briton? All we need is to lower that budget down to £40 billion and give the surplus funding to the NHS, and it'll be adequately funded. No borrowing required.

When the conservative government was returned to power they introduced so called austerity ( or in other words- living within one's means) and were immediately accused of cold blooded heartlessness by the very left wingers who had brought Britain to it's knees in the first place.

The issue is that they began austerity without implementing a plan for those who would be adversely affected by the cuts.

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Oh look the same story ive seen parroted on at least a dozen right wing news sites. What they dont tell you is this same health crisis is taking place all over the world including right here in the US. This year's flu has been especially contagious and is especially resistant to immunization. Thus the health impact has been much worse. People are being turned away from ERs for non-urgent care right now.

The UK has a high elderly population compared to the US which has made this flu season even worse on their ERs. As a result they moved back 50,000 NON URGENT surgeries so they can deal with the more pressing health emergencies first.

This is just common sense. You have a ton of people who need care and cannot wait. And you have some people who do not need care right away and can wait. Who do you treat first?

Every healthcare system on earth rations care. Every healthcare system on earth prioritizes care and resources to some people over others. This is not some unique thing to socialized medicine.

The difference between our system and theirs is their system prioritizes care based off of need. Ours prioritizes care based off of the size of your wallet.

Hence why 20,000+ people die annually due to lack of care in the us.

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EXACTLY. Additionally, many of those postponed surgeries wouldn't even have been scheduled here in the first place, since those people wouldn't have had the insurance.

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This year's flu has been especially contagious and is especially resistant to immunization

The flu is progressive. See what progressivism does to people?

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Whatever the government gives you they can also take from you and that is still not enough evidence for leftists in the US.

AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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Thats an argument for creating a more accountable government with transparency and good elected officials. Not an argument against single payer healthcare.

If the only argument against single payer is that you dont trust your elected officials enough to do it, then you need to elect some better officials so you can do it. Not just give up on it

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Socialist are good at accounting and transparency ? British single payer system does not work so give me an answer to that failed system !

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then you need to elect some better officials

There are none on the ballot to vote for or we wouldn't have elected these.

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Great Britain is trying to tell all western countries to be like them when they don't even know what toothpaste is. That's weird.

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Great Britain is trying to tell all western countries to be like them when they don't even know what toothpaste is. That's weird.

Your bigotry in this matter indicates a low level of education and a complete ignorance of the facts. Several dental studies have proven that British people have the best teeth in the entire world.

http://puresmiles.co.uk/uncategorized/4224/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32883893

More than likely you are one of these American morons who believes that unless someone has fake teeth which glow in the dark, their teeth are therefore unhealthy. If so then my condolences to your family for raising such a dolt.

Cocopops(347) Clarified
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It's amusing to note how Americans seem to have more, and whiter teeth than any other nation on earth.

Maybe one of the misplaced features of American society is that they place an exaggerated emphasis on people's appearance rather than their intellect and ability to contribute positively to the welfare of their country and the nations of the wider world.

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Brits have awful teeth. In London it is awful. Even Muslims in Pakistan have better teeth. I know it's not the British's fault because their dental system is junk, but their breath is scary.

OmegaPan(710) Disputed
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You insult others a bunch. Did you know that this is a sign of how you talk to yourself in your mind? You need to stop the negative self talk before it is too late.

OmegaPan(710) Disputed
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--"American morons"--

"The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category." (Adolf Hitler)

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The British are all gay. It's why they need hyper masculine Muslim men to come in and help up the population.

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Government run health care is just window dressing by the Democrats. It's all about Government control of everyday people's lives.

Read what Paul Gallagher wrote about the NHS in 2015.

The UK has one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world according to a damning new report which said the nation has an “outstandingly poor” record of preventing ill health.

Britain was placed on a par with Chile and Poland as countries still lagging behind the best performers in survival following diagnosis for different types of cancer. The UK came 21st out of 23 countries on cervical cancer survival, 20th out of 23 countries on breast and bowel cancer survival and 19th out of 31 countries on stroke.

Antrim(1287) Clarified
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From the moment people in Britain start work their tax includes 'national Insurance Contributions, N.I.C.,which includes the funding of health care and social services such as unemployment benefits.

Yes, you're correct, Brits do pay for their health care but, encouraged by successive governments,have been labouring under the misapprehension that it is free.

Like most government managed institutions Britain's wasteful National Health Service is the epitome of slovenly inefficiency and offers the worst of both worlds.

This money sponge offers poor value for money and wholly inadequate patient treatment and care.

What needs to happen, but for political reasons, will never will, is that the N.H.S., be partially privatised and, apart from accident & emergency admissions, a system of means testing of all patients.

In most cases the sick visit their doctor or hospital almost apologetically as they feel that the treatment they are receiving, or hope to receive is free, whereas they've been paying towards it all their working lives.

The Conservative government despises the NHS and wants it to be privately owned. It's utterly underfunded, and needs billions more to function properly.

The deterioration of the National Health Service isn't because of socialism - it's because of a lack of socialism.

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A flu is a cold right? Why are people going to the hospital

They postponed non-emergencies due to a spike in flu cases - know who else does that?

- the US...

"Please don't bring your healthy children — especially your newborn babies — into the emergency room," Lockler said. "And if you don't have what I call a true emergency, this would not be a time to come to the emergency room."

https://www.today.com/health/nurse-bluntly-lets-people-know-how-avoid-flu-hilarious-video-t122147

"R.I. hospitals divert patients after ERs are swamped"

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180103/ri-hospitals-divert-patients-after-ers-are-swamped

"San Diego hospital opens surge tent after area flu cases quadruple"

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/san-diego-hospital-opens-surge-tent-after-area-flu-cases-quadruple.html

"Hospital Overrun By Flu Cases Having To Turn Them Away"

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/01/08/hospital-overrun-by-flu-cases-having-to- turn-them-away/