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I dunno many Bible verses, but the one I like is about treating your neighbor as you would yourself..

You pretend your neighbours are Jewish too? Awesome. What do they make of your mental illness?

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In fact, if a truth dies, The Truth doesn't die.

You sound like Rudy Giuliani, mate.

Interviewer: "Truth is truth."

Rudy Giuliani: "Truth is not truth."

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It is your position that you evolved from pond scum

No it isn't. Don't tell me what my position is, psychopath. And you didn't claim I had "evolved from pond scum". You called me pond scum in the present tense.

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The problem with this definition is...Why would a self-sustained chemical system (capable of undergoing Darwinian evolution) acquire consciousness (the ability to modify its environment)? ;)

Well, no. It isn't a problem with the definition because the definition doesn't mention consciousness. You added that part yourself. It is however, a very good question. The scientific answer of course is that consciousness is a genetic mutation which greatly assisted the survival of our species.

BUT...

It leads onto some far more interesting questions. For example: why is life self-sustaining? What explains the survival of life before it became conscious and hence decided it wanted to survive? Physics bends towards chaos, not order, so why did life continue to survive and grow?

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What psychopathy, pond scum?

^ This psychopathy.

The psychopathy that causes you to describe non-believers as "pond scum", on the sole basis that they don't want anything to do with your wackadoodle religion.

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The problem with there being a creator is, who created the creator?

In fairness that isn't a problem because you're implying an infinite regression must necessarily exist in order for anything to be created. It works against atheists too if you think about it. For example: the problem with computers having a creator is who created the creator?

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OP's claim is BS. Christians give a lot to their own churches, not to charity. OP is conflating these two concepts and the different motives involved.

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The Left hates Bible believing Christians because we show their true colors.

You claim you believe the Bible, but you deny all knowledge of the first half of it. Do you mental illness much?

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There must be a public exorcism to rid him of whichever unholy entity has corrupted his mind. It's the only way.

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Tell me the verses in the Christian New Testament

Tell me which Christian Bibles don't include the Old Testament.

GhostOfNom(166) Clarified
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I said verses in the New Testament

Of course you did. It is only natural that you would not want to be confronted with the psychopathy of the first half of your holy book.

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Hi bronto. So, no rebuttal to the 50 million hungry people in your country? Just a bunch of mindless link drops to far right blogs? Cool.

A leading economist explains why capitalism has failed

http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/the goodfightpodcast/2018/06/aleadingeconomistexplainswhycapitalismhasfailedandwhyonlythe.html

Has Western capitalism failed?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14972015

American capitalism has failed us

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/04/american capitalismhasfaileduswereoverworkedunderemployedandmorepowerlessthaneverbeforepartner/

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Hello again, hater

Honestly. Get some psychiatric help.

Speaking of my DNA test, you say it has been interpreted by human beings to mean something it does not mean.

Yes, which is very obviously correct. You are deliberately conflating a scientific test for historical genetic markers with the idea that your DNA is "Ashkenazi Jewish". The data has been interpreted by the employees of the website to mean you are "Ashkenazi Jewish" because of the "preconceived biases of the investigators". The precise mistake they have made has been explicated to you dozens of times, but of course you never listen or acknowledge being debunked. You simply reply with smear attacks, misrepresentations and false accusations because you're a nasty little fascist who pretends to be a liberal to make himself feel warm and fluffy inside. It had previously been believed that the Ashkenzis were descended from the original Jewish tribes of the near east, but the latest scientific research refutes that premise as false. The same scientific research I have been linking for weeks and you keep ignoring:-

While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe.

https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

Most of the world's modern Jewish population, as well as the Yiddish language, come from Turkey and not other parts of the Middle East, according to a new study.

Dr Eran Elhaik of the University of Sheffield used a computer modelling system to convert Ashkenazi Jewish DNA - the Jewish communities historically located in Europe - data into geographical information, which revealed that 90 percent of Ashkenazi Jews descend from the Greeks, Iranians and others who colonised northern Anatolia (now northern Turkey) more than 2,000 years ago before converting to Judaism.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/most-jews-descended-ancient-turkey-new-study-2107639949

Honestly mate, I'm done with this conversation because you're an unreasonable cretin who has been smearing me with lies for weeks just for bursting your little fantasy that you're genetically Jewish. Grow up you child.

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Even saying that it's a means of interpreting data is saying that it exists

No, it is a way of saying the data exists. It is not a way of saying that colour exists, because colour is our interpretation of that data, not the data itself. Capiche? If I program a computer to play a video game, then the video game cannot exist unless the computer interprets the code.

We aren't talking about aliens here

You might not be talking about aliens. I referred to aliens because I was making a point in which they became a useful analogy.

Do me a favour and stop replying to me. You're stupid and it's a waste of my time reading your posts.

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Hello hater:

Oh for God's sake shut up you delusional retard. You understand that in two words you've just proven him right?

Oh??? Let's examine your "scientific evidence", shall we??

No, let's not examine YOUR MISREPRESENTATION of the scientific evidence. Let's examine the actual scientific evidence:-

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

That one sentence proves you are wrong. If you were intelligent and your brain functioned normally, you would acknowledge this and simply move on. However, it is clear that you are so emotionally invested in convincing other people that you are Jewish, for your own selfish reasons, that you are unprepared to behave reasonably. You are not Jewish, and the evidence proves this. Hence, you are only embarrassing yourself by misrepresenting the facts.

I have a DNA test

Which has been interpreted by human beings to mean something it does not mean. The peer-reviewed article I linked explains this in great detail, but you keep refusing to acknowledge it:-

Obviously, what kept Jews identity were their language, culture, tradition and religion. Thus, whatever their biological hereditary kinships, both the trans-generational vertical, and intra-generation horizontal relationships are secondary consequences. However, the increasing reliance on scientific reductionism in biological thinking of the last two centuries eventually culminated in turning the evidence of DNA sequences into the essence of the characterization of Jewishness rather than its consequence. Samples examined for the distribution of biological or molecular markers all depend on the preconceived biases of the investigators.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

You don't like it.

False. The results of your DNA test are factually inaccurate, and I have demonstrated to you that they are factually inaccurate.

Your continued conflation of DNA testing with the idea that you are somehow "genetically" Jewish is a bizarre fallacy. Judaism is a monotheistic religion with absolutely no connection to biology. Further proof of this is found in the fact that the group of Jews you claim you are related to converted to Judaism extremely recently. There is no biological relationship between them and the religion they converted to and hence there is no biological relationship between you and the religion they converted to.

This of course is undeniable, which is why you are so cripplingly stupid to deny it. Caps lock isn't going to change the science you mentally ill, intellectual troglodyte.

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Still not one intelligent, rational atheist has raised his or her ugly head.

You are using atheism as a qualifier to determine that someone is unintelligent and irrational, which means your reasoning is circular, you are the irrational one, and you almost certainly need professional help from a mental health expert.

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Then I take it you're part of the "personal reality" crowd.

I think you're misunderstanding what he said.

Look, you can't say color exists for one person and doesn't for another.

He didn't say that. His argument was that colour doesn't really exist in the first place. Colour is the way our brains interpret certain types of data. An alien species might feasibly not interpret the data the same way.

The fact that you can't visibly see it doesn't affect the fact that it objectively exists.

The only evidence you have for its existence in the first place is sight, so I'm afraid your premise contradicts itself. You want to remove the only evidence we have of the existence of colour, yet simultaneously conclude that colour exists objectively and independent of us. That's quite literally retarded.

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I'll tell your mom. She'll be so proud.

Nah, tell your kids first. Oh wait.... Sorry.

ROFLMAO

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Answer the Q, mental midget.

I did answer the question, moron. You asked if he had done anything objectively wrong, and I used your objective code of morality to illustrate that he had not.

Boy, there's no end to your silliness tonight, is there?

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I used deductive logic

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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Not according to the Bible. As long as he takes at least some of the kids home to use as sex slaves then he's well within the boundaries of the scripture and hence has done nothing wrong. Supporting evidence:-

Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

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The comparisons are silly. Theism has long been the default state of most of the world

So what? That doesn't make the comparisons silly. Most people watch TV. Is there a word for non-TV watchers?

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Bronto, why do you post this complete bullshit? Who exactly do you think is going to be fooled by it? The websites you link are literally like mobile phone burner numbers. They post fake news one day and close down the next.

Erick Erickson does not have a great track record with fact checkers. (7/19/2016) Updated (4/6/2017)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/red-state/

Oh well, I am SHOCKED to discover this.

1 point

Metaphorically blind is what I mean

You have absolutely no idea what you mean.

in that they can't accept or "see" undeniable proof of God.

Ah, I see. Well, you are metaphorically blind because you can't "see" my invisible robot ninja friend called Dave. Dave the ninja. How stupid do you feel now? Dave the ninja could kill you dead and you can't even see him!! What a moron you are.

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I can get the analogy you're making. The blind man can't see the proof because he's blind, as an atheist can't see proof of God because the atheist is also blind.

If atheists are blind then how do they get to work in the morning?

GhostOfNom(166) Clarified
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it was a monumental psychological joke.

Lol. You are a monumental psychological joke.

1 point

Implosion?

Now where have I heard that word before?

Let me think......................

Dummies
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Good luck with that one.

If you refuse to learn you refuse to get smarter. Why would you refuse to get smarter? That's dumb.

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It is hilarious how that description made me think of you.

Not really hilarious, but certainly ironic given the premise that you are a narcissist.

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This thread is about WHY you're obsessed

Yes, because the fallacy you have decided to double down on this time is Freudian projection. You are trying to flip your obsession with telling everybody that you are Jewish (you do it approximately every ten comments or so) into my obsession. It isn't even as if you don't have a point, but my obsession is simply with making other people understand when they are wrong.

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"When fascism comes to America it will be draped in the flag and carrying a cross".

I'm paraphrasing, so forgive me if I didn't get that exactly right. The point is wtf are you talking about Communists?

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Hello hater:

Hello mental health patient.

I've got science.

False. You do not have any science. The wording used by the Israeli company which conducted your alleged "DNA test" is debunked directly by the articles I have linked which you keep refusing to acknowledge and/or accept. They explain the specific mistake which the company conducting your test made, but you keep ignoring this fact and calling me names. That is not science. That is called being a retard who refuses to be reasoned with because of personal bias.

My science is three letters, DNA

Obviously you are grossly misrepresenting the facts again. The existence of DNA does not prove that you are Jewish and the science linked in the OP illustrates that DNA cannot be Jewish. You are simply repeating a word which doesn't mean what you are implying it means, which is stupid and misleading. The article in the OP is part of the Frontiers in Genetics peer-reviewed industry journal, so frankly I don't understand why you'd be such a retard as to ignore what it says and keep repeating exactly what it debunks. It implies that you are lying deliberately about being Jewish, rather than simply being mistaken.

When I ask you to explain my DNA, you tell me that the DNA company is run by a Jew

The entire company is Jewish. It's an Israeli company. Obviously, Israelis are religious Jews and hence you are conflating the opinion of religious Jews with science. Do you understand the difference between religion and science? Would you go to a Catholic if you wanted a "scientific" opinion on evolution you frigging IDIOT?

Get out of my thread, you mentally ill twit.

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Therefore, I am STILL bound by my clearance.

Nobody believes anything you say anymore, you fake Jew twit.

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THOSE Jews were atheists.

Oh, I see. Done a full census of the religious beliefs of everybody involved in the 1917 Russian revolution have you?

Stop making retarded blanket statements of fact based on nothing but your own religious bias, you irritating Zionist liar.

Living in religious societies that by and large feel victimized by communism or its effects, many Russian-speaking Jews and their leaders have either remained silent on communism or downplayed the Jews’ role in it.

https://www.jta.org/2017/11/06/news-opinion/world/what-was-the-jewish-role-in-1917-russian-revolution-moscow-museum-gives-a-full- picture

Why do you suppose Jews live "in religious societies" if they are not religious?

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Every word you write drips with intellectual dishonesty. It is not up to others to "deny" completely unsupported claims which you or anybody else makes. The science says that there are no genetic markers for Jewishness, which is -- funnily enough -- also what reason says, given that Judaism is a monotheistic religion, not a biological race.

You are not Jewish, it has been proven that you are not Jewish, but since you are such a mentally unstable idiot you believe that screaming "DNA" and "JEW HATER" in the faces of anybody who challenges your intellectually redundant claims, classifies as some form of validation.

The "obsession" you describe is with finding out why you are denying the scientific evidence which is being repeatedly linked for you illustrating that you are not Jewish. For example:-

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

Female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe

https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

There is absolutely ZERO genetic relationship between you and Judaism, and the solitary argument you have to the contrary is that you paid a private Israeli ancestry website to conduct what they claimed to be a DNA test. Since this private Israeli business used the words "Ashkenazi Jew" to describe your DNA (hence disqualifying themselves as scientists in the first place) you have decided to take their erroneous use of semantics quite literally, and have simply ignored the scientific explanation of why they made this error:-

Obviously, what kept Jews identity were their language, culture, tradition and religion. Thus, whatever their biological hereditary kinships, both the trans-generational vertical, and intra-generation horizontal relationships are secondary consequences. However, the increasing reliance on scientific reductionism in biological thinking of the last two centuries eventually culminated in turning the evidence of DNA sequences into the essence of the characterization of Jewishness rather than its consequence. Still, in spite of repeated efforts, there is no agreed upon criterion to identify Jews, and samples examined for the distribution of biological or molecular markers all depend on the preconceived biases of the investigators

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

Oh, well let's see now. A group of Israeli Jewish capitalists having "preconceived biases" about Judaism? Never. Outrageous.

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No really, coward. Just take a guess. Do you think all clearances must be renewed, or not all clearances?

I don't need to take a guess because I have now twice proven that your claim (i.e. "we cannot both be wrong") is false.

Here's a thought. Why don't you grow up?

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Either all clearances need to be renewed, or not all clearances need to be renewed.

Would it help you understand if I type it in capital letters?

IF HIS SECURITY CLEARANCE NEEDS TO BE RENEWED BUT NOT ALL SECURITY CLEARANCES NEED TO BE RENEWED THEN YOU ARE BOTH WRONG.

Christ, you're so effing stupid.

1 point

Moron, as it does not answer the OP, it is a red herring

No it isn't you science-denying retard, because your OP is itself a fallacy of omission.

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No red herrings or straw men

It isn't either a red herring or a straw man. You are trying to criticise atheists for believing in science without acknowledging how far science has moved the world forward, or that your own method of telling truth from fiction is reading the Bible. You're a hypocrite at best and a retard at worst.

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How do you know what others' senses and reason are or even exist apart from your senses and reason?

Oh yeah, I never looked at it that way. You're absolutely right. Therefore everything I have ever learned is wrong and the universe was created by an invisible bearded sky fairy who knows everything and put science here just to test my faith. Good one, moron.

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This is one of your most common responses. Has it ever worked?

It only works on people smart enough to understand why their argument is logically indefensible.

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Science relies on your senses and reason.

No, not mine alone. Science is reproducible.

Shut up.

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Either a clearance requires a renewal, or it does not.

He claims it doesn't need to be renewed because it isn't high level enough.

You claim all security clearances need to be renewed.

If his security clearance needs to be renewed but not all security clearances need to be renewed then you are both wrong.

Understand, dopey?

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So an open Communist

All this sentence needs are the words "and Jew" tagged onto the end and it's literally a generic Hitler speech.

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before jumping to conclusions

Oh, the pure unadulterated irony of your comments, MathFan.

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You could attempt to learn their point of view

Ah, but you assume that the OP has not done that already. In fact, you rather bizarrely assume that understanding the Conservative worldview is not precisely what prompted his question in the first place!!

I prefer facts to assumptions. Assumptions get you killed.

1 point

More science:-

"The new findings contradict previous assertions that Ashkenazi mitochondrial lineages originated in the Near East" said coauthor Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in the U.K.

https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

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An yet, we are saying opposite things. Some paradox.

Evidently, you have not considered the possibility that you are both wrong.


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