My point exactly. Thre is nothing that can be done to stop terrorism only a change in foreign policy or whatever else their pissed off about. But they've cleverly reallocated the finance to support another casue. In this case money earmarked for catching alleged terrorists is being swindled to beef up anti drugs squads. Your no safer becasue the terrorists are getting away (unless they were state sponsored in the first place) and their looking to catch drug dealers instead.
No terrorist has been caught and they've laid most of the profiling staff off at the airport after three years of catching no one - don't get sidetracked.
Islam is not a religion in cIslam is not just a religion in the Christian sense of the word, it’s a system of self governance. It holds each individual responsible for their own actions. There is no “The Mosque” as there is in Christianity the centralized institution “The Church”
Jews believe themselves to be Gods chosen race, Christians believe themselves to be Gods children and Muslims consider themselves to be Gods slaves. 95% of the populace before 9/11 could not even care less that Muslims have been living alongside them without a complaint for years. Now that the Western economic system has collapsed, as it did during the crusades, Muslims countries have become the place to pillage for resources and the means to extract them has also decreased. Religion is providing the cover story as it did back then.
Nothing said or “revealed” about Islam has any basis in fact and most has been dismissed or disproved but the mob mentality means people don’t listen to answers and are supportive of what they see as action against an enemy out of sight. The democratic system is destroying it’s own civil rights and liberties just as it did during Nazi Germany were the Jews where blamed for everything and all rights were taken away from the populace “to tighten security.” Not a single measure today is aimed at Muslims only but the populace as a whole, it’s important to remember that, so you can’t blame religion for that.
As for the rest. People don’t like being insulted and when you’ve just had a drone missile hit your village and kill your whole family because someone was allegedly fighting for the wrong team your not going to be happy are you? It’s this fight fire with fire attitude that is causing a lot of the friction not religion. During my visit there a lot of the people were taking up arms not because of religion but for lost friends and family and the belief that “if they thought I was a terrorist before their actions have just made me one now”.
Islam always was and will be a system. There is no word for holy war in Islam the closest is Jung ul muqada which you will not find in any scriptures or religious text. The concept of total war is alien in Islam as it’s a missionary religion and the only one not spread by the sword. In the Quran it says categorically “La Iqrah fid-Deen” (There is no compulsion in religion) (Surah Al-Baqara, Ayat 256) So any talk of a secret take over or psychological warfare is down to reading too much Dan Brown and secret societies novels.
Neither. it's politics that creates wars. Every war ever fought has been over kingdom or resources. It's well paid historians who want to rewrite history to fit their views that lead to the current crop of "history rewriters." If you look at current wars like Afghanistan and Iraq and compare them to something like the crusades. Their very similar not only in attacking Muslims in their countries but that the invaders countries have excessive needs and the country their attacking has the resources.
The crusades were fought because the Church and the Kingdoms were not making enough money, but to get cheap soldiers fighting used the religion excuse so they could pay them less as “God would repay them 100 fold” if they fought on the kings (so the churches) side.
Nowadays, most weapons and soldiers are from Christian countries so it pretty obvious that if they weren’t so willing to make money by selling guns to the highest bidders, criminals and terrorists would not be so well armed.
What God or Dawkins has to say on the subject is lost to these people but they won’t hesitate to hide behind the religion or freedom or speech excuse when it suits them. The Arabs call these people “Mushriks” and there is no equivalent word in English but it’s sort of like turncoats who will fight for the winning side as long as it’s profitable and advantageous to them but will not allow the total extermination of the other side in case they need to switch back over to them. Nasty people in other words.
Neither. it's politics that creates wars. Every war ever fought has been over kingdom or resources. It's well paid historians who want to rewrite history to fit their views that lead to the current crop of "history rewriters"
Is it religion that creates wars or bad people who are blinded by religion?
I get upset by people saying that Christianity causes wars,
But really, I believe it is the people who belive God
wants them to fight WHEN HE DOES NOT!!!!!
I want to see what other people belive about the subject.
Depends on your definition of moderate. What people really means when they say moderate is “fits in with current times” which is not the purpose of religion at all – do not lie, cheat, steal, kill never gets old. You don’t choose to break the speed limit today because you felt like it, you obey the law or use the given system to have it changed, people with grudges against religions are usually the type of people with inflated self worth or were abused so feel they must strike back at the faith rather than the person.
Most people do not know how to stand up for their religion or themselves so to deflect some of the heat they choose to blame the extremists.
Democracy allows for slavery and advocates violence. The very first democracy was the Athenians who put their women in burkas, did not allow them to vote made them property of their husband and it was permissible to hit her instead of the man. Democracy also funds itself by selling mercenaries and weapons to other faction usually opposing ones -not much has changed today. Women are exploited and abused by men, soldiers fight in foreign wars for promise of cheaper resources for their economies and weapons are sold to anyone willing to match the price.
In fact it’s the most violent and manipulative system of government there is but because it allows free reign to people with money no one wants to close the system down until they have “had a shot at the top,”
Religion is the cornerstone of every civilization known and unknown, no time exists that religions have not fashioned it’s cultures, laws and policies. People struggle with it’s concepts because they cannot take the time to read through the whole of the material to get the picture and like a new gadget want it working now without them putting in any effort.
Lastly religion is honest about human nature - politics and social theory isn’t. You can be as nice as you like to Charlie Manson he’s not going to become a productive member of society. In any religion a man who lies, cheats and steals cannot be considered for any post – in a democracy they elect them to the senate.
Nope, it's "according to" only. The originals (if they were even written as Jesus never wrote a word) are long gone. Though some say the vatican hold fragments but becasue they differ so much from modern teachings it exposes the faith as a human creation.
A picture is worth a thousand words as they say.
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Neither is better as without a human teacher and some decent advice your not going to learn anything. Technically books are more able as you need no power to read them and most are supervised works. A computer allows any idiot to post anything and call it fact. Plus computers have quite a bit of problems on their own. virii, crashes, etc.
The war of independence is the worst thing that’s happened to America it seems. As it’s just been fighting every other country in the world since becoming republic of Britain. If you compare what the founding fathers wanted and what it’s become they would revolt!
A homosexual can't "marry" as no religion accepts it. A piece of paper stating marriage or individuals deciding to "bless" a union does not change the fact that a marriage has two purposes. To reproduce within wedlock and increase the congregation of the faithful - neither of which a homosexual can do.
Depends on the intent and circumstances. If the boss is stingy and doesn’t pay or treat his employees well then within reason a small amount of payback can be forgiven. In fact revolutions and wars are the result of unjust thefts. However, if it’s simply to fulfil yourself then it’s wrong. Look at it like this. If a guy comes in and cleans out your house and accounts but decides to give you back your mementos if you let him have the rest of your stuff would you agree to it as your now officially poor?
It's a common miconception that Darwin said humans evolved from apes. In fact he just said they MAY have common ancestors not one formed the other.
The "evolution inquistition" is admanat to drag science through the mud and move the goalposts if needs be to prove something that cannot be. These guys have been caught out before look up "piltdown man"
Next they'll be saying Lead and Hydrogen are equivelent to Gold simply because of same atomic mass.
Humans are omnivores not herbivores or carnivores so vegetarianism is a preference choice. Firstly humans cannot digest vegetable matter well as only true vegetarian animals have celluase in their gut. So people who are consuming only non-veg are wasting food. Secondly meat contains all 8 essential amino acids, vegetables the best you can manage are 6 amino acids. Of the 30 or so documented people who have lived to 100 only 2 were vegetarian and not complete either.
There are also around 10-15 groups of vegetarians, you get vegetarians who eat chicken, fish, eggs etc. Strict vegans will not even use animal products like wool. Another thing to remember is that your either a normal eater or vegetarian as normal people also eat vegetables (something a lot of vegans seem to forget). If the world turned vegetarian it would die of starvation as cattle would over run the populace and only a small part of the land mass is even arable to grow food. The culling of all animals to make way for crops would be horrendous to watch.
Lastly a vegetarian is not a person who loves animals but a person who hates plants so much he wants to slaughter and eat them!
Your getting mixed up with your ideas of God and religions. Firstly, God is beyond understanding – philosophers for centuries have tried- because the minute you understand God he ceases to be God. The closest we can come are attributes and our understanding of them, in your case benevolent – meaning helpful and well meaning.
A policeman can be seen as benevolent but if he does not possess the ability to punish and apprehend then he’s an expensive watchmen and of no use to the people but aid to wrongs. Similarly you can’t just put the attribute of benevolent on God and say if he’s only kind then why does he punish?
People have a choice and they follow fate but their choices can affect their fate if they put in the right efforts and intent. So it doesn’t matter what religion or denomination you follow as the actions of a decent person will be the same and their intent and efforts will direct people towards the middle path and they will strive themselves to follow too. Those that have managed it perfectly are called The Prophets and from the few that are well documented we know that all said the same thing: Do not lie, cheat, steal, kill etc.
Ignorance is not an excuse as religion is the cornerstone of every civilization known and unknown. No true religion goes against the basic tenets of The Commandments but politics changes the messages over time and the religion becomes detached from it’s original teachings leading to the decline of the civilization and the religion.
No one is guaranteed “salvation” anything and no one knows the fullest extent of their actions either. So killing an alleged thief may be seen as something good but it was not proven so you have in fact exonerated him and condemned yourself. It’s not random factors at all but a fine line between doing good and understanding what your doing – you can’t blindly follow and expect to be right and more than back any horse and be right every time.
As for the hell scenario – it’s silly to think it’s too harsh a punishment. Charles Manson is still alive and still has no remorse over his actions. Will he change tommorrow do you think? In a year? In a millenia? So if the guy isn’t going to use his will in the right way to change himself when he can, then an eternal punishment is not harsh as he’s going to be like that for eternity anyway.
It's overdue. Technically it should have ended when it became owned by it's creditors but it's all fiat money now. In the past a country/civilization would crumble and be supplanted when it ran out of money; now they just repackage and sell that debt on while fiddling it’s taxpaying public. This is a cancerous existence as the publics children will pay for the excesses of leaders and merchants who have secured their own futures at the expense of everyone else’s.
Right now it looks like the axis of America, Britain and Saudi Arabia will be supplanted with China/Russia, India and Iran providing the energy needs. The only problem is the currency – the dollar if dropped will kill off the world biggest consumer the US but neither China or Russia have the universal currency appeal to replace it and it would create a vacuum. Maybe if the Euro gets itself together or China decides to make a move as the world biggest creditor it could take top. The only reason everyone keeps the US is that it’s convenient and it makes a good fall guy for all the worlds ills.
Then again gold and silver have always been universal currencies and the UAE has the most available in the world. It is the worlds “China” in energy exports so it could become the kingmaker if not the king.
Depends what kind of Christians, as there are so many factions. Some are harmless, some are useful and some are violent terrorist/criminal fronts. For example, The Jehovah’s witness sect is fairly harmless if you know how to handle them. The Christian convents are the basis from which modern schooling has developed and it’s where curriculum based teaching probably originated. The banking system was also first developed by the Christian Templars as a means of moving money around securely for use elsewhere. Then you’ve the IRA and Lords Army one is a criminal paramilitary group the other a child soldiers mercenary network. All are Christian but which would you rather have?
Selective abortions have always been permissible, mothers life being in danger and the baby being stillborn being the two extremes. The issue is more should casual abortion be allowed in place of shouldering the responsibility for your own irresponsible behavior? The answer there is a definitive no.
If you don’t want to have kids then use contraceptives or be responsible. People hide behind excuses like “Oh, what about a rapists child” or “it’s my body.” A rapists child is still a child and you’re the states “human farm” not your own individual. There are always places things can be done at your own expense –this should be one of them if your country doesn’t allow it. Having taxpayers back and fund such matters when there are more sensible things to be spending money on is not helping anyone in the long run.
