Again, the controlling Left taking our freedoms to run our private business as we want.
If you were an African American family owned busness, would you want our big controlling Government forcing you to allow KKK conventions in your place of business? That is how a Christian family owned business feels for example when they are forced to cater a Gay wedding reception. Christians want to see their children in Heaven some day and try to raise them with Christian beiefs and try to protect them from the political correct worldly lifestyles that go against the Christian faith. It matters not if you disagree with them raising their children in the Christian faith... IT IS THEIR RIGHT! It is none of your business, do you want Christians telling you how you should raise your family?
What kind of controlling Government would force private businesses from their freedom to cater who they choose? There are penty of catering businesses who would gladly take the money from Gays. There is no need to force people to go against their faith. The arrogance of the Left is mindblowing.
I would agree that restaurants should not keep Gays or anyone else from eating in their place of busness because that would not be lifting up Gay marriage, or other agendas to any particular group such as the KKK.
When I watch the Liberal media spin these current stories of Arkansaw and Indianna, it is so obvious the Liberal bias and the judgmental morons pushing their bigotry towards Christian beliefs, through the news.
Please spare me your ludicrous lies of how Christians hate Gays, or are homophobic, or judgmental, etc. etc. Christians love all people but that does not mean they must expose their children to lifestyles that the Bible says is a sin. If you were a Black family, would you want your kids helping to cater a KKK meeting exposing them to the hate and bigotry? The Bible teaches parents to protect their children from worldly sins and for you to think Government can force them to go against their faith, only proves everything I say about arrogant controlling Liberals. Christians are simply standing up to their personal reigious beliefs and rights, and HOW DARE YOU judge them for this.
If an Atheist business did not want to cater a Christian wedding, and expose their children to Christian beliefs, it would be their right to do so. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM no matter how much you want to force your agendas.
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" That is how a Christian family owned business feels for example when they are forced to cater a Gay wedding reception. " Homosexuals are not "anti-Christian" the way that the KKK is "anti-African Americans", so false equivalence. " Christians want to see their children in Heaven some day and try to raise them with Christian beiefs and try to protect them from the political correct worldly lifestyles that go against the Christian faith." Denying homosexuals service has nothing to do with Christianity, or getting into heaven. The bible does not require Christians to deny homosexuals service. ". It matters not if you disagree with them raising their children in the Christian faith... IT IS THEIR RIGHT! It is none of your business, do you want Christians telling you how you should raise your family?" It has not yet been determined if that is actually a right of theirs. Chances are the courts will be deciding that within a few years. Ironically though, you want our children to be subject to your prayers, which has an impact on how the kids are raised. "What kind of controlling Government would force private businesses from their freedom to cater who they choose?" Almost every single state in the country. "There are penty of catering businesses who would gladly take the money from Gays. There is no need to force people to go against their faith. The arrogance of the Left is mindblowing." Again, the bible does not require Christians to deny service to homosexuals, so this is not going "against their faith". "I would agree that restaurants should not keep Gays or anyone else from eating in their place of busness because that would not be lifting up Gay marriage, or other agendas to any particular group such as the KKK." Wait, so you think that only SOME businesses deserve to deny service? And you want to determine that based on political issues that YOU have issues with? "When I watch the Liberal media spin these current stories of Arkansaw and Indianna, it is so obvious the Liberal bias and the judgmental morons pushing their bigotry towards Christian beliefs, through the news." Far less obvious than the bigotry against homosexuality is in the places in question. "Please spare me your ludicrous lies of how Christians hate Gays, or are homophobic, or judgmental, etc. etc." When you deny service to a group of people on grounds that are not included in the Bible, then what other conclusion do you expect people to make? " Christians love all people but that does not mean they must expose their children to lifestyles that the Bible says is a sin." Then maybe they should not be opening businesses that cater to the public. Oh, and a sexual orientation is not a lifestyle. " If you were a Black family, would you want your kids helping to cater a KKK meeting exposing them to the hate and bigotry?" You keep asking these hypothetical, but there are PLENTY of people out there who would say yes, in order to expose said KKK members to the real world and help stem the bigotry. There are entire organizations that revolve around that. " The Bible teaches parents to protect their children from worldly sins and for you to think Government can force them to go against their faith, only proves everything I say about arrogant controlling Liberals. Christians are simply standing up to their personal reigious beliefs and rights, and HOW DARE YOU judge them for this." Again, there is nothing in the Christian faith that requires Christians who operate a business open to the public to deny service to sinners. "If an Atheist business did not want to cater a Christian wedding, and expose their children to Christian beliefs, it would be their right to do so. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM no matter how much you want to force your agendas." Actually, it wouldn't be. They would be sued, and they would lose. 2
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I love this post so much.... You keep asking these hypothetical, but there are PLENTY of people out there who would say yes, in order to expose said KKK members to the real world and help stem the bigotry. There are entire organizations that revolve around that. I literally just put a post about that in another debate. Frankly, I don't agree with the KKK, but from a business prospective, unless they actually threatened the restaurant owners or employees, I would have no problem serving them. The answer to bigotry isn't bigotry. 1
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I have debated GenericName many times and he is so radically fixated on Gay issues why ignoring all other fringe groups and problems in this nation. He refuses to ever admit to the many freedoms we are losing in this nation. All he ever does is say, you mean like Gay marriage? He could care less if we all bow down to almighty government as long as Gays can change our marriage laws. He just made the statement...Denying homosexuals service has nothing to do with Christianity, or getting into heaven. The bible does not require Christians to deny homosexuals service. THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE! The Bible most definitely does tell Christians to come out from the world and be separate. It tells them to keep their children from the sins of the world. I said "It matters not if you disagree with them raising their children in the Christian faith... IT IS THEIR RIGHT! It is none of your business, do you want Christians telling you how you should raise your family?" He said "It has not yet been determined if that is actually a right of theirs. Chances are the courts will be deciding that within a few years" Can you imagine the kind of radical left wing arrogance to think the court has the right to determine how parents raise their children? If he was against such a fanatical thing, he would have said, yes I agree parents have the right but courts might someday overturn that right. I refuse to debate him because it is like talking to a Left wing propaganda pamphlet. 3
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If freedom is so important then how come this right to freedom doesn't extend to gays? If you think Christians should have freedom to live the way they want to why can't gays have the same freedom. Isn't your religion and supposed God just as controlling as these liberals and left-wing people you despise so much? Your holy book says to kill gays. That is disgusting. At least liberals wouldn't demand the same fate for Christians. It is pretty obvious who is the greater evil. You do hate gays. If you did not you would not spend so much time ranting about them. I used to despise you for hating us but now I honestly feel pity and concern for you. Your extreme hatred is a serious problem and I fear it will consume you. Please go and get help before you do something insane and live to regret it. And comparing the gays to the KKK is just a joke. Gays are not hurting anyone. Gays don't and never have lynched Christians like how the KKK did to African-Americans so that is an appalling comparison. 1
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Normally I ban you for your hateful attacks on me but i will address your argument because you are so blind to what we are talking about. First off, we are talking about ANY private business's rights to not cater events that go against his faith or beliefs. Gays ARE afforded that same right. I would completely support a Gay catering service's right to NOT cater Christian wedding reception because the Bible says Homosexuality is a sin, so I would understand his reluctance to support that event. That was your first mistake to your statement. Second, we are Christians and follow the new testament where it says he without sin to cast the first stone. QUIT BRINGING UP THE OLD TESTAMENT to try and judge Christians. Christ said to even love our enemies which we do but the new testament also tells us to be separate from worldly things and the sins of the world. I've explained many times the lie from the Left that Christians hate Gays. What we hate is the Left wing activists and Gay activists trying to tear our faith apart by twisting the scriptures to deny Homosexuality being a sin. Gay activists have sued Churches to allow Gay Sunday school teachers. THAT IS WHAT CHRISTIANS HATE AND FIGHT AGAINST. WE ARE STANDING FOR OUR FAITH. We don't hate Gay! If you never again want to hear a peep out of Christians about homosexuality, then stop pushing it down our throats. Quit trying to force us to twist what the Bible says by creating Christian churches with Gay pastors who deny the scriptures, or forcing us to have Gay Sunday school teachers that would send messages to our children that goes against our faith. You are the one consumed with hate against any person who does not sanction homosexuality as normal. It is massive insecurity to think you have the right to force everyone to believe your lifestyle is normal or natural. I live just fine knowing there are people who do not accept my Christian faith as normal, or call me names because of my faith, or ridicule me for believing in God who they hatefully call sky daddy and many other degrading names. Do you see Christian activists trying to stamp out every hater of Christians? Do you hear us calling you Christianphobes? Grow up and understand we all have people who do not accept us as normal. You can't legislate your ideology on the rest of America. We all have rights to disagree. As always your insecurities have caused your knee jerk reaction to believe I was comparing you to the KKK. I was using the KKK analogy so that Liberals could grasp what we are talking about. The same laws that you would force on Christian businesses to cater Gay wedding receptions would ALSO FORCE African American businesses to cater KKK events. Maybe if you stop the anger, we might actually have some debates without you being banned. 2
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If the Old Testament isn't relevant to Christianity then why is it still in the Bible? Jesus supports previous biblical laws in Matthew 5:19 and John 10:35 says that "scripture of scripture cannot be broken". This means everything in the Old Testament still stands so I still have every right to call your religion for what is in this way. Stop bringing up Sunday School teachers. I have never condoned that incident so you have no business bringing it up with me. Just because gay rights were taken too far in the incident doesn't mean they are bad in general. Furthermore I do not want to " legislate my ideology on the rest of America". I want as little to do with your crappy country as possible. I live in a civilized country, Great Britain and I am happy to say that people like you are few and far between here. Ban me all you like it doesn't change the fact that you're a sore loser, only emphasizes it. 1
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Please state chapter and verse in the New Testament stating the homosexuality is wrong. Every time that's been argued to me, Levitacus was quoted, so I am only aware of the old testament argument on that. If you never again want to hear a peep out of Christians about homosexuality, then stop pushing it down our throats. Who is pushing it down your throat? Is someone trying to force you to be gay? Is there an army of LGBT people out there saying "Be gay or else!"? They exist, and they want to live their lives in public, just like any heterosexual couple, which is perfectly reasonable. So beyond that, where are they forcing it on other people? Quit trying to force us to twist what the Bible says by creating Christian churches with Gay pastors who deny the scriptures Churches with gay pastors are simply different branches/denominations of Christianity. Just like Protestants and Baptists and Methodists. The Catholics believe other denominations are twisting the Bible as well, but that doesn't mean that the other denominations are necessarily terrible. Join a church that supports your belief system and you'll be just fine. forcing us to have Gay Sunday school teachers that would send messages to our children that goes against our faith. Again, who is forcing you!? I swear, there must be a secret gay army - I really wonder why they don't come visit me - I'd like to say hi. A church that is against homosexuality is not going to have a gay teacher, at least not for long. If you believe homosexuality is a sin, then don't send your kids to Sunday School at a church that supports it, they are not that hard to find. It is massive insecurity to think you have the right to force everyone to believe your lifestyle is normal or natural. Please don't use the word natural - it's simply inaccurate for your argument. Homosexuality is natural. It may not be normal by majority rules, but not normal doesn't mean wrong. Christians want to see their children in Heaven some day and try to raise them with Christian beiefs and try to protect them from the political correct worldly lifestyles that go against the Christian faith. False, they want to raise them with hate. Not one Christian can point me to a passage in the Bible that says that you aren't supposed to help sinners. You can keep claiming homosexuality is a sin, but you keep forgetting that not doing your job is not in the Bible. It is none of your business, do you want Christians telling you how you should raise your family? Yes, when will that start happening? What kind of controlling Government would force private businesses from their freedom to cater who they choose? That is not a freedom people have. I know you hate bringing up black people, but this line of thinking would not make sense if we were talking about segregation. Before you explode just read your sentence from the perspective of blacks and whites. I would agree that restaurants should not keep Gays or anyone else from eating in their place of busness because that would not be lifting up Gay marriage, or other agendas to any particular group such as the KKK. But, being a homosexual is a sin. How does letting a homosexual in your restaurant not say to that person it is ok for them to be gay? Please spare me your ludicrous lies of how Christians hate Gays, or are homophobic, or judgmental, etc. etc. Christians love all people but that does not mean they must expose their children to lifestyles that the Bible says is a sin. It is impossible to avoid exposing anyone to a lifestyle of sin since everyone sins. If you were a Black family, would you want your kids helping to cater a KKK meeting exposing them to the hate and bigotry? Why is the caterer breaking the law with his children illegally working? The Bible teaches parents to protect their children from worldly sins Really, where? Christians are simply standing up to their personal reigious beliefs and rights, and HOW DARE YOU judge them for this. No one is judging them. They are simply saying that you have to do your job. If an Atheist business did not want to cater a Christian wedding, and expose their children to Christian beliefs, it would be their right to do so. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM no matter how much you want to force your agendas. If an Atheist provided wedding services it would be the stupidest thing ever to say he wouldn't cater to Christian weddings. That wouldn't even go to court. If you deny service to 83% of people you aren't discriminating, you are exclusive. 2
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I NEVER said that the Bible says not to cater Homosexuals. I said it tells Christians to be separate from worldly things, and tells parents to keep their children from the sins of the world. Liberals refuse to admit that the Scriptures calls Homosexuality a perversion and a sin. This is why I ignore people who try to twist the scriptures to fit their lifestyles. Gay marriage would OBVIOUSLY fit into what the Scriptures tells us to stay away from. If you don't agree, it would be mind blowing ignorance to the Christian faith, but even if you honestly think you are right and disagree, IT DOES NOT MATTER! In America we still have the freedom to disagree and raise our families as we see fit, NOT AS GOVERNMENT FORCES US TO DO. Explain how not catering to homosexuals being a part of your religion means it isn't in the Bible. Please point out the scriptures you keep talking about where you protect your children from sin. Please explain why children are being exposed to customers of a business. Raise your family the way you see fit, but what does that have to do with running your business? 2
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You try to remove your fixated pro Gay agenda indoctrination and see it through the eyes of private business owner who has every right (HIS RIGHT) to run his family business as he wants and his RIGHT to stand up for his faith. HOW DARE you arrogant bigots tell a person of faith that he must deny his faith and follow political correctness. Your double standard and hypocrisy is sickening. It is not illegal for a group of people to have a KKK meeting! Democrats have meetings all the time to keep late term abortions on demand legal.(THOSE MEETINGS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL because that kind of inhumanity to another group of people makes the KKK look like school boys.) The analogy of the KKK and private business proves your hypocrisy. Only the special Gay right's movement in this nation gets any attention. You would not be outraged if aa African American family business refused to cater a KKK meeting. Christians are the new minority whose right's are taken from them. This must be why Liberals say little about Islamic terrorism. You seem to care nothing for the thousands of Christians being murdered in the new holocaust. I have yet to hear Obama be outraged at the genocide of Christians by Islamic terrorists for nothing more than their Christian faith. 1
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You know, you still have not indicated in any way how the bible requires business owners to refuse business to homosexuals. The closest you have come is saying Christians must be "separate from the world" (something you have not provided scripture for), that would seemingly also require them to refuse service to any number of groups. Oddly enough, you seem to fixated on an anti-gay agenda. Democrats have meetings all the time to keep late term abortions on demand legal. Can you cite a few of these meetings? Only the special Gay right's movement in this nation gets any attention. Call it "special rights* as much as you want, it doesn't make it true. Equal rights aren't "special". You would not be outraged if aa African American family business refused to cater a KKK meeting. The KKK is essentially a hate group, where as homosexuals are members of a group with an inherent characteristic. The analogy doesn't make sense. Christians are the new minority whose right's are taken from them. You lost all legitimacy here. Christians make up the overwhelming majority of this country, and of every ethnic group as well. Christians hold the overwhelming majority of political and social power. You seem to care nothing for the thousands of Christians being murdered in the new holocaust More Muslims are being killed by Muslims than Christians, but I haven't seen you say anything about it. Does that mean I get to tell you why, and attribute malicious intent? I have yet to hear Obama be outraged at the genocide of Christians by Islamic terrorists for nothing more than their Christian faith. There is no genocide of such a kind occurring. 1
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Any individual or corporation would be within their rights to refuse service to an illegal organization such as the KKK or the Mafioso for instance. Being gay no longer constitutes a crime and in a society where every law abiding citizen is entitled ''equality of treatment'', the gay people have every right to expect freedom of choice to hold their function in any venue they wish just the same as everyone else. I can appreciate where you're coming from but try to remove your strongly held emotional feelings on this subject and view the issue impartially and objectively. 2
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You try to remove your fixated pro Gay agenda indoctrination and see it through the eyes of private business owner who has every right (HIS RIGHT) to run his family business as he wants and his RIGHT to stand up for his faith. HOW DARE you arrogant bigots tell a person of faith that he must deny his faith and follow political correctness. Your double standard and hypocrisy is sickening. It is not illegal for a group of people to have a KKK meeting! Democrats have meetings all the time to keep late term abortions on demand legal.(THOSE MEETINGS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL because that kind of inhumanity to another group of people makes the KKK look like school boys.) The analogy of the KKK and private business proves your hypocrisy. Only the special Gay right's movement in this nation gets any attention. You would not be outraged if aa African American family business refused to cater a KKK meeting. Christians are the new minority whose right's are taken from them. This must be why Liberals say little about Islamic terrorism. You seem to care nothing for the thousands of Christians being murdered in the new holocaust. I have yet to hear Obama be outraged at the genocide of Christians by Islamic terrorists for nothing more than their Christian faith. 1
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It is not illegal for a group of people to have a KKK meeting! Democrats have meetings all the time to keep late term abortions on demand legal.(THOSE MEETINGS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL because that kind of inhumanity to another group of people makes the KKK look like school boys.) For anyone following in the waterfall, this post right here exemplifies everything you need to know about the FromWithin Troll persona: It considers abortion, which victimizes individuals not even capable of self-awareness yet, as being a more severe crime than the numerous murders, rapes, lynchings, and other hate crimes that the KKK has committed over the years. In other words, as far as FromWithin is concerned, an unborn fetus is worth far more than any number of intelligent self-aware black people. As long as the fetus is a white baby, right? I don't understand how the idea that not doing your job isn't considered communism. Capitalism is the idea that you take in money and provide a service. Wouldn't the exact opposite of Capitalism be a law that says you don't need to work? I don't care if you want the right to refuse service. Go ahead and take your right to refuse service, but doesn't it make you a communist? 1
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THAT'S THE POINT....sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh It's amazing how many people seem to be missing the entire point. Yes, the KKK hates Black people and is why it would be pathetic to force an African American family business to cater a KKK event. These laws that would force Christian family businesses to cater things that go against their faith would also force Blacks to cater KKK events if the KKK wanted them to. If that analogy is too hard to grasp, then how about a pro life family forced to cater a Pro abortion rally or dinner to raise money for Pro Abortion agendas. What are you missing here? We are talking about our family's freedoms and right's to disagree and cater whoever they want. There will always be the vast majority of businesses who have no convictions against different groups and will gladly take the money. These groups will never have a hard time finding a caterer. If your argument is that the KKK would not want a Black business to cater their event, the same could be said for a Gay wedding reception where they might not want a Christian family business to cater their reception if the family believed Homosexuality is a perversion, as the New Testament says. The problem is that there aren't alternatives. Where are the gays supposed to go? 83% off the country is Christian. That is the problem that minorities have. Gays don't have the luxury of massive amounts of alternatives. There is no need to respond to this argument if are going to repeat yourself. You ask everyone else to pretend to be in the black owners does, but you never seem to consider the gay shoes, which are colorful and frilly by the way. 1
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If you were an African American family owned busness, would you want our big controlling Government forcing you to allow KKK conventions in your place of business? That is how a Christian family owned business feels for example when they are forced to cater a Gay wedding reception. I'm not sure if this is accurate. The KKK is bad for African-American's because the KKK actively targets African-American's as the subject of hate. Gays do not actively hate Christians, it's the other way around. To make an effective analogy here, you would have to make the argument, "Should the KKK be required to serve African-Americans?" What's your answer to that? 0
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You spin it any way you want, it is all about the freedoms our founding fathers fought and died for. The freedom to speak our minds to a power hungry Government. A freedom to disagree, a freedom to practice our faith without Big Government forcing their politically correct dogma on us all. Any private family business that does not want to cater someone's events should be always be free to do so. What kind of fools would want anything else? Only fanatical Liberals and Gay activists would want Government forcing the people to go against their faith and their beliefs. There are plenty of businesses that will gladly take the money. STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES and push your agendas somewhere in a third world country that has no Constitution guaranteeing the people's freedoms. 1
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The founding fathers didn't die for their beliefs, they survived the revolution, set up the ideas of our government, and then lived long lives. They were most certainly not for the equality that is fought for today, as times have changed and they were probably more along the lines of "Equality for all straight male Christians." Not for KKK members, not for African-Americans, not for atheists, not for homosexuals, not for women, and not for everyone. And the Left is not asking any family to deny their personal beliefs. But if an organization is to serve everyone, such as a church, hospital, etc., then by denying a particular group, you are denying that group's freedoms. I will stay out of your life when you stop denying me the same rights you give to others. Homosexuals aren't asking to be invited into straight marriages, they are asking for their own. If you don't allow homosexual marriages because homosexuality is a sin, why do you allow marriages in which either spouse has had sex before marriage? Or been divorced? Shouldn't you stop that as well? It's in the Bible… You are going against the Bible by refusing to "turn the other cheek" at other's sins. Why should you be served by any Christian organization? Also, you didn't respond to my question: "Should the KKK be required to serve African-Americans?" What's your answer to that? If you were an Pure White Aryan family owned business, would you want our big controlling Government forcing you to allow blacks in your place of business? That is how a Christian family owned business feels for example when they are forced to cater a interracial wedding reception. Christians want to see their children in Heaven some day and try to raise them with Christian beliefs and try to protect them from the political correct worldly lifestyles that go against the Christian faith. It matters not if you disagree with them raising their children in the Christian faith... IT IS THEIR RIGHT! It is none of your business for us seperating blacks and whites, do you want Christians telling you how you should raise your family? What kind of controlling Government would force private businesses from desegregation? There are plenty of catering businesses who would gladly take the money from interracial couples. There is no need to force people to go against their faith. The arrogance of the government is mind blowing. I would agree that restaurants should not keep interracial couples or anyone else from eating in their place of business because that would not be lifting up Gay marriage, or other agendas to any particular group such as the NAACP. When I watch the Liberal media spin these current stories of Arkansas and Alabama, it is so obvious the Liberal bias and the judgmental morons pushing their bigotry towards Christian beliefs, through the news. Please spare me your ludicrous lies of how Christians hate blacks, or are racist, or judgmental, etc. etc. Christians love all people but that does not mean they must expose their children to lifestyles that the Bible says is a sin. If you were a Black family, would you want your kids helping to cater a NAACP meeting exposing them to racial mixing? The Bible teaches parents to protect their children from worldly sins such as interracial marriage and for you to think Government can force them to go against their faith, only proves everything I say about arrogant controlling Liberals. Christians are simply standing up to their personal religious beliefs and rights, and HOW DARE YOU judge them for this. How dare you deny us for denying blacks! If an Christian business did not want to cater a interracial wedding, and expose their children to Christian beliefs, it would be their right to do so. IT'S CALLED FREEDOM no matter how much you want to force your agendas. Fixed it for you :) 1
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Comparing skin color to abnormal unnatural sex between to men makes you laughable. I've wasted enough time debating a fool. Have a great life of judging Christians and forcing them to pay for killing late term babies on demand and forcing them to go against their faith. You total idiot. Ignore! Gays suing a church to force them to hire gay Sunday school teachers is not trying to change how the church feels about homosexuality. A gay Sunday school teacher can know every thing about the Bible and help teach, but what he does behind closed doors gets him banned from the job. So, it isn't the Left or gays that are trying to get Christians to change their beliefs. They are trying to get Christians to evaluate the person for the way they will act, and not for what they do on their personal time. 1
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I should not waste my time responding to such an idiot response to Gays suing the Church to force them to hire Gay Sunday school. If you were a Christian parent, would you want your kids taught by someone who spits on their faith and laughs at the fact it calls Homosexuality a sin? How on Earth could any child take him or their faith seriously if the Church is allowing people in leadership roles who refuse to agree with the very scripture they are supposed to be teaching to the kids. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors so they would not care if he is not trying to tell the Church his sin is not a sin. No Church wants a known adulterer who has not repented of his sin and asked for forgiveness for his sin. If that adulterer is telling the church that cheating on his wife is not a sin, then no Church should ever hire him to teach their kids. You can not be that stupid can you? Obviously yes, you can and you are that stupid. If a Gay man has admitted his sin and asked for forgiveness from God and is no longer living a Homosexual lifestyle, then yes of course he could become a Sunday school teacher. Christians are all about forgiveness of sin, not blatant in your face refusal to admit your sin is a sin. If you were a Christian parent, would you want your kids taught by someone who spits on their faith and laughs at the fact it calls Homosexuality a sin? No, that's what I am saying. If you have a gay Sunday school teacher who doesn't spit on your faith he should be given the chance to be hired. How on Earth could any child take him or their faith seriously if the Church is allowing people in leadership roles who refuse to agree with the very scripture they are supposed to be teaching to the kids. Because he would also be teaching the other scripture that says everyone sins. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors so they would not care if he is not trying to tell the Church his sin is not a sin. Did you ever give him the chance to tell you whether he thinks it is a sin or not? No Church wants a known adulterer who has not repented of his sin and asked for forgiveness for his sin. Catholics say you are wrong. If a Gay man has admitted his sin and asked for forgiveness from God and is no longer living a Homosexual lifestyle, then yes of course he could become a Sunday school teacher. I love it is only the gays who need to stop sinning. Christians are all about forgiveness of sin, not blatant in your face refusal to admit your sin is a sin. Christians are first and foremost all about making sure you know you are sinning. Forgiveness is a distant second. 0
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Do you deliberately act totally ignorant to the Christian faith and is this an act? How old are you? You sound very naive and ignorant to many things. Judging means calling Jane Doe a sinner and she will go to Hell for it. Calling sin sin is not judging anyone, it is merely educating people who would twist our faith to fit their lifestyles or agendas.. Do you hear Christians fighting against adulterers, divorcees, etc. etc.? No because people who have done these sins ADMIT THEY ARE INDEED SINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't try to deny what the Bible says and do not try to force the Church to hire unrepentant adulterers as Sunday school teachers. You are wasting my time. Do you deliberately act totally ignorant to the Christian faith and is this an act? How old are you? You sound very naive and ignorant to many things. You claim that Christians don't judge people, then complain about non Christians who are doing the same thing to you and calling it judging. There is clearly no way to know what the hell YOU mean by judging. Knowing about the Christian faith will not help learn how you think. Judging means calling Jane Doe a sinner and she will go to Hell for it. You are out of your mind if you are going to keep claiming the Christians don't judge homosexuals. This is ridiculous. You just admitted that Christians are judging. That's why I can't figure out what the word means. Do you hear Christians fighting against adulterers, divorcees, etc. etc.? No because people who have done these sins ADMIT THEY ARE INDEED SINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't though, and you don't care. They don't try to deny what the Bible says and do not try to force the Church to hire unrepentant adulterers as Sunday school teachers. You won't even let the American government give benefits because they are sinners. You deserve to be sued until you take your nose out of government business. |
